Read our Partner with Paul Scam Review

Gracias once again Amigo!!
I´ve seen this Paul guy everywhere!
I saw him a long time ago and like you say he stated that there was a count-down….it´s the longest count-down I have ever seen!!
He is still counting down!!!
What an A…..%/%$%&#”$!!!

Like an idiot, I ordered the partner with paul package today for $9.95, without googling it first. Do you reccomend that I send the package back immediately unopened, as to not “damage” what’s inside? I’d appreciate some advice about this, thank you so much. Eric

I signed up for PWP, using the name
Biteme A$$hole, several months ago.

I never actually followed through because it looked like an obvious scam – His automated spam generator is still sending me emails
and they all refer to me using the name Biteme!!(lmao)

This motherfucker scammed me over $3424.45. He send me a private email saying if if i joined his shares privately he would give me 1/100 of the profits. I joined and he stuck me with an unsuitable contract until i have paid a total of $7300. Now I’m paying for his ads about $26 dollars every day.

I finally found out the truth about the guru. He almost got to sign up for his false tale. Thank you so much for your website. Not having a job and looking for some way to make income, so Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.Libby

hi
your opinion is bogus!! i dont really know about this paul guy or his methods. but, your review enlightened me to the fact you dont know what herbalife is, it is not a scam at all! you mentioned Doran. I personally know Doran and he IS making a MILLION+ a month!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have see copies of his checks. The fact is that there are many different methods you can take in Herbalife, maybe pauls isnt the best or cheapest. But anyone that wants to work for their money and have the sky as their limit, can do it with herbalife! does residual income sound good to you? my mon is making 5 grand a month and she doesnt even work anymore. Her friend is making 20 grand a month!! this does work, ask me how! i can get Doran to help you!

This is a scam simple cause if herbalife is good then why not just say what it is, 2 this guy hides his face and real voice saying to protect his idenity more like to keep him from going to jail and third he says its about doing advertising for all kinds of companys even shows it in his fake spread sheets ithinnk if you hide things don’t say who you are lie and misrepsent your self then your a crook if herbalife was smart and os good then they sue this guy
Its a scam folks pure in simple i have see alot of them
Hes a crook the video was shot in his parents house the guys young and can build a website and knows alot about computers

Damn I just got screwed. DAmn Damn Damn. There is supposed to be a business coach that contacts you within 48 hours. I asked the “coach” this sounds too good to be true you pay nothing and you get paid in return? THe guy said well I am sending you a package through the email and lets make an appointment for a followup. I asked him why he is being evasive and he said well I dont need to deviate from the something. I am not being evasive but I want you to read the email first and then we will talk at our appointment. He said his name is ROBERT TISON 815-678-2444. I called him back for my refund and I go straight to email all the time. I WANT MY MONEY BACK. I needed that money too I feel so stupid now. I already paid the $9.95 online.

Don’t fall for it! Let it go I wish I did. Can’t wait til my appt to tell his ass off.Its tomorrow at 6pm.

I feel for all the scammed out there in the world. We were all one of them, and if not yet will be soon. I have been doing this marketing stuff for 7 years now, and COMPLETE HONESTY is hard to find in this arena. There are good businesses out there, and money is being made. One piece of advice…..Be Sure You Know WHO you are getting involved with no matter what company you join.

Boy do I feel dumb. My girl said dont do it and I did it I got screwed. One thing I wanna know is how can these things excist and still being created everyday. When you make a system it needs to be fool proof. Understandably we take our cards out and type the numbers but if a business is to be started whos overseeing the process to see that it works. Hell at this point I’m thinking about starting an online scam. Shid a million bucks ova 5yrs if you get caught why not there are people just like me waiting to get robbed rite now, and are happy there only losing 9.95, but if you times that by 10,000 you see why the scammers do it. I believe in karma so what goes around comes around. I’m done with this shit I’m going to Mickey D’s mite as well.

Thank God I googled first!!!

Thanks for saving me the hassle.

Thank god I google ..IF it’s too good to be true, then google it “is this a scam?” I have been scamed twice before: once is the mystery shopping deal, and the other is the “send $100 and you will get your money back and more once your name is moving up the top of the list” You guys know that scam? Man, I was young and stupid, Now I know easy money is never true!!!

I received the e-mail and decided to google the name first, too. Glad I did. I won’t make the mistake others have made. Thanks for the heads-up. I won’t waste my money. I, too, wish there was someone honest out there, as both me and my husband are unemployed at this time. Every dollar counts. Too bad there are so many waiting in line to take your last penny- and dishonestly at that. Thanks for this venue to check out these things.

I always look for the bad in money making schemes from home. I outweigh the bad versuses the good, so far Partner with paul has lost miserably. You know for a sucker like that to want to manipulate average joes like us is just shameful. Does he know everything comes to an end? Frankly speaking I wouldnt give him a penny if I had one!

thank god i googled is there any real jobs out there that is not a scam

I got a link in a newsletter I thought I could trust. I never intended to send any money but wanted to see what it was about. Fortunately I used a throw away email address to get as far as I could without paying. Within 2 days I started receiving spam on that email address. He’s also selling his list to other scams or running other scams. I also tried unsubscribing from his emails but they didn’t stop.

Thanks so much for your review of this business! I actually ordered the DVD months ago and when I watched it and found out it was herbalife I sent it back and got refunded. It really is hard to find a legit home business. Always google/research any home business opportunity before shelling out any money. You will be surprised when you find out what’s out there. Good luck!

Thank you soooo very much for this warning! I was on the final step, to order the OBS when I decided to Google it. I am so glad I did. Thanks again.
And kelin, The point is, this should be explained upfront that it is Herbalife. We should not have to find out after we have given our info and paid the shipping fee. And this guy should not be hidden. His claims are not legit. And he should be doing this the right way. Herbalife is for certain people to get involved in, some of us do not want to do that type of work. Like Almway, its not for everyone and we should not have to waste out time finding out this is what we would be into.
Linda

Any business (and I mean any business) where they ask you to pay for something first before you get to work and get paid is bogus. Never ever let these guys get a penny from you. If they want you to work for them, they should provide all the supplies needed for you to get started.
These scams are just going to get worse. Because so many people are losing their jobs, I’m sure a lot will check these websites out.
I clicked on Partner with paul and saw they wanted $9.95 after saying they wouldn’t ask for a dime. They welcomed me to check out their business with the BBB. Yeah right. Please don’t fall for any scamming business that asks for money up front. Real employers will give you want you need to make them successful. This company is asking you to start with ten bucks to make them successful. Are you going to bite or just let that one go? I let it go. I’ll deal with spam and no money out of pocket.

I too read this partner with paul scam, and like many of you before me, I googled the business…And well, whatta ya know; IT’S A SCAM! I was a skeptic from the outset, and after reading all of your testimonials, I’M SO GLAD THAT I FOLLOWED MY FIRST MIND TO GOOGLE YET ANOTHER SCAM…Too bad that these people can continue to do this, but as Michael said on Feb 1, don’t ever pay for anything up front.

When will it ever stop! Well never I would guess. Why do these people need to rip people off? Is there no legit stuff out there?
Working on this internet stuff for a few weeks now I know it will take awhile to figure out. Thanks for the heads up on this.

Be true

Maxamo

This was recommended from a forum about another work from home scam that I was checking out. Wow, even the sites that reveals scams are offering scams themselves!

About a year ago i was almost fooled by vector marketing until right before my interview a couple days before when my friend over aim told me it was a complete scam and i didnt wanna believe it. He said “just google it” and wow i’m so glad i did and then i found out that a whole bunch of my friend as well were almost tricked/tricked so ever since then if it has anything to do with making any kind of money quick i google it im SOOO glad i googled it the no money down bit almost got me. Just remember google is your best friend!

I found this blog while doing a bit of research to see what Paul is up to now and how he’s running his scam since Streamline Magic and Shaklee. I should have been making a list because I’ve been tracking him for at least 4 years.

If you lined up every scam Paul Birdsall has had his hand in, you could cover the U.S. or Canada end to end.

One of the latest ads I saw for him really disgusted me and was so true – it stated something to the fact that ‘big heavy hitters’ were laughing at those who are not. Yes, indeed, Paul Birdsall is making a laughing stock out of anyone who signs up with him.

Paul and his gang DO NOT care about YOU or YOUR Success – they only care about the next easy buck for THEM… and if you are not careful, that buck is going to be coming out of YOUR wallet.

Yes, as the last commenter stated “Just remember google is your best friend!”

Be safe, be smart, do your due diligence and stay away from Paul Birdsall and his CRONNIES – that is unless you have money to burn. If you want to join Herbalife, find a sponsor who really will help you – I can GUARANTEE Paul and his gang WON’T.
~Jennifer

Hey everyone, I’ll give you all one even better than all of the posted comments: I spoke to a customer service rep from the Better Business Bureau of Columbus where I’m from, and she simply told me that there is NO SUCH THING AS HOME BASED BUSINESSES! Unless you are working for a company that allows you to work from home (hint: such as the one you already work for) DO NOT EVER PAY FOR ANYTHING UP FRONT. She stated that if a company wants you to from home, they will provide you will all of the necessary tools for FREE! Read it again folks: FREE! Don’t get taken advantage people, because if it sounds too good to be true, then it most likely is…

Thanks for saving me some time and wasted energy. I am so glad this website is here!

Way to go, guys!

Thanks everyone for the in-site on Partner with Paul. I was on Craigslist and seen the ad. The ad can pull you in but it’s sites like this that keep everyone from harmful scams.

I will do everything in my power to find a work from home business that is legitimate, easy to apply and that doesn’t take much money if any to start.

Once I am making over $2k a month I will come back to this site and post the information so you can also make the same or more.

I know it’s a tough time for us all but if we stand together and help each other succeed then we can change our lives and then the world.

If anyone else out there knows of a homebased opportunity that is real then please take the time to let us know.

Much Success to us ALL

Hi, thank you very much for this review. I wanted to join this and when I realised I have to pay $ 9.95, I clicked on close button on webpage. Then a popup appeared saying, I have a special offer that they reduced the price to $ 7.4… Then I wanted to join. But thank god, my CC declined the payment and I observed, I never saw any place to mention how much I have to pay (or how much they can withdraw from CC. And I was suspicious that they don’t accept payment from paypal or alter pay).

And if anybody knows a ligit website to earn real money please let me know.

Thanks for the “heads up”. Definitely will not be joining now!

All of us just want a real genuine business opportunity, especially in this economy, I am so tired of these scams. wow this site is ridiculous.

Just when you think you might have found a real work at home business you find out it’s completely bogus. I have been wanting to start a work at home business of some sort and some way for a long time. I would love to partner with somebody and come up with some real ideas and real ways to start a business. If anyone wants to talk about it, i’m all ears for ideas and would love to get something going, or if you have an ideas or real businesses let me know –

jdproback3@hotmail.com

I know I am just this close to starting something…Id’ love to hear from ya

Jeff, I think a joint venture of some kind is a good idea. I don’t know what it would look like, though. Maybe check out the independent recruiting opportunity. You could find a partner to work with and split the costs.

Thanks for everyone’s input. I too have order PWP package and waiting for it. I want to see what it’s all about, and if it’s Herbalife than I’m not interested.

However I don’t feel it’s a scam and neither should anyone else.

A scam is when someone takes your money and disappears.

Everything else is marketing. Some are more upfront and some are not, which I don’t agree with their methods, but I’m an internet marketer, I have bought every program under the sun, but I’ve figured out how to make money and I am making a six figure income online. I too promote a very lucrative program, but it’s not for everyone though.

The point is, don’t look at ads as scams just because they make big claims. Look at it as lessons in marketing and take the best from it, then trow out the rest.

promising big money in short time with no experience is sure to be a scam
If this is true everyone would be out of debt.

I have just signed up with the program. I will give it a try to see if it works. However, the moment they start asking for more money before I even earn back the $9.95 I have already given, i’m pulling out. Now that i have read all your reviews, i’m am terrified of what paul is offering.But its too late now because i have already paid the s&h. Will come back to let you know what happens….

Yep I’m one of the many that fell for the PWP scam, although herbalife did help me lose alot of weight and my sponsers were really great people its the .01% of people that make 6 figure incomes with herbalife, much to be said about 5by3 matrix,get in on the ground level, pre-launch blah blah blah. To be completely honest I really did find a great work from home business…..AFTER I READ THE BOOK “SUCCESS IN 10 STEPS”. For those of you that are seeking the freedom that all those non-5 pillar companies are talking about..start here,RandyFried.successin10steps.com, learn from people that really will help you for free.

There should be a list called “How to Scam in 10 easy steps.

Inclusive to that list is things such as:

1. Don’t use your real name. Use a fictitious name.
2. Don’t tell them the product until the hook and line has been snared.
3. Promise outrageous income in a short period.
4. Lure them into paying larger amount as the become increasingly involved.
5. Don’t publish addresses or telephone numbers (Tracking will be more difficult)
6. Don’t return the money they gave you.
7. Make it a limited offer, time and/or amount of people.
8. Don’t indicate that you’re listed in the BBB. They might want to search and determine if you’re legit or bogus.
9. Make it appear that they’re getting something for FREE and will then cost them.
10. Run when they get to close to tracking you down.

Hey! Just showing some appriciation! I am a full time college student and I haven’t had a job for about months! It hasn’t been easy for me. I am now going through rough times and decided to go job hunting like never before. I ran into the partner with paul advertisement. As desperate as I am, I almost fell for the trap. I did spot out some of the possibilities of it being a scam.
I wouldn’t have imagined it being herbalife. It’s funny, I had a friend bring me to the guy running the herbalcrap. They tried really hard to convince me to join, but I was too smart for the. I could tell right off the bat that this is something which you put lots of time and money into, so you can make less money then you used. Anyways…. You confirmed that it would have been a waste. I was very desperate for money and almost did a mistake untill I opened this page. Thanks again!!!

If anyone reading this blog is really truly looking for an opportunity its hard to find one thats not a scam but I have found a way working with a health and wellness company that was put together by a true leader in the marketing industry. NO FRIENDS NO FAMILY NO BS. Feel free to contact me because I fell into this trap!!!
Randy Fried
apexgt7@yahoo.com

Ouu shit!,What a mistake, yesterday I made a an ads in google and spend about $20 not much but heck, the stats in affiliate program doesn’t work! What a fuc*g scamer he is. And think that the ads that he proosed to use was “sick of scams?” heh.
Definitelly thanks for that review! I can only say that internet is full of scams, hopefully when I was starting out with online business I meet some legitimate guys who tought affiliate marketing. If you want to know more huys just fell free to go to my website affiliate-wealth-secrets.com, this is full step by step course of affiliate marketing, and that business model works.

While I am glad I found this site and found out about the Paul guy, I just wanted to mention one thing….the reason why he could not mention HERBALIFE was because he isn’t allowed to. With HERBALIFE there are many ways to get people in the business to get you a residual income, but you can’t use their name to do it. Anyone can sign up with the company but unless you go out and sell it like AVON and call yourself an independent distributor of HERBALIFE, then you can’t use it….most people that don’t mention it are part of their own group to recruit people.

That being said…I am so glad I saw this cuz I would not be interested in HERBALIFE…although the products do work and are 100% guaranteed, I would like to know what I am getting into before I get into it. That seems sneaky and dishonest to tell folks after the fact….if you can’t say the name atleast say what type of work it is.

You who wish to be successful in marketing, learn to market yourself. dont fall in love with a product or a company, find a company that will WORK for you, not work for YOU! There are many ways to make money but your searh for residual income is much harder to find. Dont buy leads or make a list of all your friends and family, its the worst thing you can do. Tish is right great products but WRONG compensation plan. Wanna learn the truth? For FREE? http://RandyFried.bigmlmtruths.com

Okay I’m a computer geek, and love to work on it all the time! I got an email stating that this was the way to go. So I went online and looked at the video. I was a little excited to hear what “could” be but my common sense didn’t kick in until a few seconds later. Well because I know how it sounds when you type, whenever I heard Mr.Paul typing in his name and password, it actually sounded like one of those old typewriters where you push the button and the letter smacks the page. So this is why I’m here because I never sign up for anything that costs a dime unless I first check it out and I couldn’t find it on BBB. I just thought that was really interesting so I wanted to share.

You hit the nail on the head with that one! Paul is pretty shady to be hiding what he really does. It’s too bad people fall for stuff like this. I recently became involved with an internet coach and he has taught me many ways to promote my Network Marketing business online. I now get leads and sign ups for free even though I’m not very good on the phone. Matter of fact I rarely have to use the phone! Click on my name if you are interested in some coaching for your internet business.

Thank god I googled this first I almost fell for it! Phew!! if anyone knows any legit sites to go to for working at home please let all of us know!

Thanks for this review!

Wow, so this is HERBALIFE?! I tried signing up with PWP but my cc order never went through (and I never bothered to retry). Thank goodness for that!

I signed up with Herbalife some years ago, not knowing much about it. When they asked me to buy products and keep inventory, I told them I’d think about it. Then I did some research on the company and very little of what I found made HL look good. So I quit at the first opportunity — perhaps why my cc never went through!

BTW, I learned of PWP through a site called Reviewopedia. Something to keep in mind, perhaps.

Well folks i shoulda researched it first, Thannk you all for your resp abt partner with paul. You guys prob saved me some cash.

Thanx

How proud will his children be once they find out their father is a thief.

I found this website and wanted to add a comment. I like surfing the web and finding out about such scams. I got one of those emails and thought to myself “wonder what this person is scamming?”. He is a scam simply because the idiot put an address in he email so I did a google map search and since I live close the the city he used I wanted to see this place. It was a vacant lot. Trees, bushes and grass. He even went so far as to have a suite number. I guess he must be like the keebler elves and lives in a tree and that is his suite.

Hope this helps

I know nothing about partner with paul… but what i do know is i make 6,000 a month doing the herbalife mlm and retailing and have only been doing it for 7 months…the products do work! it isnt the worlds largest most profitble nutrition company in the world because the products suck.. the problem is that all you people are looking for a get rich quick scheme.. they dont exist!! you have to put an investment into anything to get a return, thats just the way it is….you are not being scammed out of 9.95 , you agreed to buy the package under the terms to review about having a home based business ..thats what is about and thats what you receive .. just because you dont like what the busines is once you get it does not mean you have been scammed.. you are not going to get rich or make a living for that matter sitting on your butt and doing nothing.. stop lookig for the get rich quick schemes…

I only got nailed for the shipping and handling so far. I am sending back the packet today and wrote a note telling them they cannot take any money out of my account. The package is in ok shape except I highlighted it. I am on my way to the bank right now to close my bank account and open a new one. Remember anyone who offers you to pay a small fee even 2.00 will take money out of your account until you cancel if you don’t cancel within the first few days. Thanks for web sites like yours.

OMG! i should have searched this thing first. Just last night i signed up and paid the 9.95 i think it was, for that kit thing. Grrrrr! =X i feel so dumb right now. I guess i’ll just return the package when i get and and ask for my refund, I’m super pissed i didn’t do some research on this scam before hand.

Ok…did no one else get the immediate sense that the Andry couple is CREEPY???? When I first saw the video all I could think was how utterly creepy the two of them looked…ESPECIALLY her.

Hello! I checked out the paul website through craigslist. I thought it sounds too good to be true but because I am desperate I wanted to believe. Thank goodness, I decided to google his website name. I really appreciate this info and everyone else’s input. (I love that one comment where one person decided to check out the address and found out it was a vacant lot!)

Hello all,

My name is Joe, and I originally felt that I was royally scammed. I sent for the package, and my wife and I went through with the business. While we were not pleased with all of the business practices that were going on, we had the drive to succeed in own own business.

Herbalife is an excellent product. I and many family members have achieved very good results in using the products. While yes, the products are not for everyone, 40 million people in the world that are using them can not all be wrong.

If you want to start a home business, with a product line that 40 million plus customers are already using world wide, and want the straight dope on how to do it for an extremely low start up and maintenance cost, contact me for a call back withing 48 hours. I don’t use the evasive cloak and dagger approach. I’ll tell you what it is, and how to use it.

I hope to hear from all of you very soon,
Joe Dee
hl.jdms@gmail.com

I got scammed from what turned out to be a bunch of Nigerians in Lagos, luckily I lost nothing but my pride but I soon learnt + became a scambaiter. I actually managed after 4 long months to get a full confession + details on IM which I later uploaded to warn others. I get swamped by spam in my mail every day but this name was new, so I Googled it to see who this guy was, I had no intentions of replying. Doesn’t surprise me in the least + thanx to u guys, hopefully there will be a lot less people falling for these cowards.. Thanx guys + keep up the good work…;=D

hi, if someone knows anything about that website, or if it’s ascam, please help here’s the link: optimisticaffiliate.com thanks

Well,
I’m worse….I did sign up for herbalife and got screwed! So let’s count…..
$9.95 – package, 39.95 to keep it, $149 to sign up, $88 in product, $118 in product ordered that I did not request (this is full price by the way), $20 for the on line traning………So that’s about $425 that I didn’t have in the 1st place. My husband was laid off in Jan 2009 – still not working, I was laid off in June 2009. So obviously I didn’t have a lot of money to throw at this thing. Once my sponsor found that out I shoved to the back corner. Also, I tried taking the products – I can’t handle them….I have a heart condition and they affect my heart. I tried to explain this to my sponsor and she gets all rude. I asked to return the products and shes mouthing off to me how I’m negative and if I REALLY have a heart problem I should take them. Honestly! Like I don’t know how to take care of my condition! On top of all that – my mail was stolen from my mailbox which had my completed application in it – no according to herbalife I don’t exist as a distributor because they don’t have a hard copy – and to get another app is another $50!

So Yes, stay away! Anytime you head the word ‘Parner with Paul, or Herbalife’ run the other way – hang up the phone, delete the email, etc.

I hope this helps others not to get suckered like I did. Unfortunatly there is so many out there in dire straits financially that we can get suckered in soooo easily. Please be careful!

Im so glad that I googled this first! This asshole needs to be taken out to the back shed and have his thievin ass beat like a red-headed stepChild. In Texas, thats what we call true justice……scammers beware!

First of all, if you get an UNSOLICITED emal promising big bucks, RED FLAG!
I am inundated with these offers daily. I google everyone. And everyone has turned out to be a scam. As one previous posted mentioned, if you are asked to pay up front, IT’S A SCAM! And there is no such thing as home based businesses unless you are offered a job by a reputable company that pays any expenses upfront.

C’mon people, if it sounds too good to be true…you know the rest. Do some research. Google the company. Odds are, it’s a scam. I’ve yet to find a legit company from an unsolicited email and odds are, I never will. If you sign up for a site to become a member, more than likely your email address will up on a list and you’ll recieve these offers up the wahzoo. So I suggest that when you do sign up for ANY site, use a yahoo account or hotmail or a free email service. NEVER use an email account provided by your interternet provider!

Remember, with any transaction, CAVEAT EMPTOR! (Buyer beware) Be skeptical, don’t hesitate to research and/or call the BBB. Lastly, don’t be one of the “suckers born every minute.”

Hey Guys, I got screwed too. Grrrr. The stupid guy sounded so honest and crap. I actually did have a sponsor all me up, quite quickly actaully, but he still did the whole “can’t really tell you what it really is” thing, but as naive as I am, I was still interested. He did tell me how it would only cost $299 to join up and I could be making tons. Then he went on to tell me that it was HerbaLife and finally the red flags went up. I did some research and glad I came accross this site, as I will now not pay the $299. At least I am only out $10. I have been trying to find a legitimate only business now, and not sure if too many exist. For those interested, I have found one that has made money for me so far (a measly $100 in a month, but that’s better than losing money I guess). Some of you might make more money at it than I have so far, and hopefully I can make a little more too, but wanted to let you know about it as it is pretty easy. Let me know if anyone finds anything else good out there.

Oh yeah, screw HerbaLife!!

Hello everyone,

I am certainly glad that I decided to google this “Partner With Paul” before handing him my hard-earned on cash. There is definitely something about him that screams the word “shyster”. At any rate, I must say that I disagree with some of the things that are being said on this forum. First of all, I don’t know why people have it in their heads that you should NEVER have to pay anything to be able to work from the comfort of your own home. Working from home is a privilege, NOT a right. There are times when it does take money to make money, and certain things should not be given for free. Granted, there are a lot of scammers out there who will not deliver what they promise and may even take your money and run. But, there are some legitimate online businesses that are honest and will NOT stoop so low as to scam an innocent person…And, guess what? Some on those STILL cost money to join. Nothing in life is free and the world doesn’t owe you anything. Please stop thinking that you shouldn’t have to pay for a luxury that oh so many of us dream about everyday. Goodness.

I am so tired of surfing all the scam sites and reading about people getting ripped off. It’s a shame that the internet is full of scam artist when it comes to making money. I tried so many different “systems” when the web first started back in the mid 90’s with AOL and I lost some money here and there but I think of it as payment on education.
I got educated on the morality of most of these fellows who rip you off by selling you a pipe dream; they don’t even bat an eye when they claim to be rolling in dough, vacationing somewhere in Costa Rica; what a laugh!!
I learned to make my own way and I don’t have to lie to anyone. I’m not getting rich overnight but at least I don’t have to work for anyone except myself. You can too.

This guy has been spaming me for months now.. so i decided to do some research on it. hes not affliated with the BBB. if you go online and look it up, theyve contacted him about taking the BBB off of his website… yet he still has not.
Its got SCAM written all over it.

I have been scammed in the past so I was careful about this one especially since they made no disclosure of what it is selling. HERBALIFE>>>I would have returned it immediately. DO BOT be persueded by these few folks who have said it is an AD not a SCAM. BULL it is a scam and they are probably written by people involved in the scam using various emails and names. Anyone who reads their “AD” and thinks it isnt a scam is a fool or involved. Now I google anything before I buy so thanks for this ad I appreciate it. They should all be arrested. Why not say it is herbalife right up front…because too many people have used their products and found them to be less then advertised. I wouldnt buy a pencil made by them. Thanks again you have earned my “saving other people’s asses award”

I’m always filled with disgust whenever something like this pulls up in my email inbox or on the sides of websites I frequently visit. Seems like all I have to do is put my name and email out to get these useless offers instead of serious inquiries for honest work. Every time I get something similar to these online marketing ploys, I always google them for shits and grins to see exactly how these work. At this point I’ve only seen one that’s remotely legit that I will never use anyway because the system is a crock of shit and there’s a ton of risk involved. Good on you for educating the masses of this sort of bullshit!

I’ve been looking at Herbalife for some months now. My girlfriend told me about them when we met early this year.
I agree with you all that there is no way to get rich quick. I’ve run my my own consulting business, which cost me alot to setup. But over time became profiable, as any person who starts a business… it costs money to set up. So why should any business give you something for free?
I’ve worked in many different sectors, good and bad. Any of them, it costs you to get to work, bus, car, train etc. the company doesn’t pay you to get to work! Only for work you complete!

A few facts about Herbalife which I’ve found.
$3.8 bil company, on the NYSE, which means they are Audited on a regular basis, a scam company would not survive one year of auditing.
Established 28yrs
40mill customers
1.9mil independent distributors
double digit growth for over the last 6yrs
Featured on Mad Money CNN where the analyst said it was the Best marketing company to buy shares in!!

So, if its a scam, why is it so successful??
I have been to a couple of their seminars and met some of the more successul people. They’ve not made their fortunes overnight, but over 10-15yrs.
Now I’ve being working for 20yrs in banking and not made anywhere near the money some of these have made. So there must be some thing good about it.

If herbalife had shops – like bodyshop- where you could walk ina buy the product… does it make it any better? Actually no, the overheads would be higher and those would be passed on to the customer.
Have you seen the priced of Bodyshop products? they are good but expensive. Same sales model.

My girlfriends makes a small amount from it but she doesn’t think on larger scale. I on the other hand am seeing the UK as an opportunity to make a good business out of it.

Like any business, to be successful and profitable one has to invest! A five year plan should provide a return in 6-12months 2-3yrs and it should be profitable.

People see the claims and expect to make money straight away, that doesn’t happen in any job!

If I could put the amount of effort I put in for the Bank (10hrs per day) to Herbalife, I’d be earning 2 or 3 times what I am now.

Also, why should training be free? I have to pay fro my professional trainging £2k-£4k a time!! for courses, so why would you complain about £60 for a 2 day seminar! My security seminars are £300-£400 per day!!

Ok I do agree that MLM’s have a bad reputation, who complains about AVON or Bodyshop Cleanezee, their marketing models are the same or similar!

The trouble is, the way I see it, people will always abuse the system they are in, once they see a way to make money fast. Big business do it all the time. Just look at the banks! They screw us over and then we pay them out!

Petrol prices… thats a scam, well.. certainly not fair.

BTW I’m not a herbalife distributor, I don’t have time, lol… if I did, I would.