I’ve Tried That Investigates: Partner with Paul


We’ve receive a couple of requests to review Partner with Paul and find out exactly what happens when you partner up with Paul. It shouldn’t surprise you when I say the results are less than thrilling.

The Claims

The following quotes have been pulled directly from Paul’s website.

What I’m offering is a realistic plan that can help you make an extra $500 to $5,000 a month, right now, and then we’ll go from there depending on what you want to do.

What I’m hoping though is that once you get a little taste of making money online you’ll want to take things to the next level, and maybe even work from home full-time.

If you do I’ll personally work with you one-on-one, coach you, and share with you the custom tools I use to make 5- and even 6-figures a MONTH from just a single online business.

But don’t worry, making money online is easy when you know how …

  • You DON’T need to be an Internet expert or “computer geek”
  • You DON’T need to have any prior marketing or business experience
  • You DON’T need a lot of free time – even a few hours a week is enough to start
  • You DON’T need to mess with the hassles of a “real” business – this is EASY

Even if you get “weeded out”, you’ll still make $500+ a month

P.S. My friend Mike made $862.50 in his first month, $1298.32 in his second month, and is on track to make about $1,500 a month from here on out working just 3-4 hours a week. This has literally changed his life, and he’s really excited about making even more money online.

Disclaimer: This is not a “get rich quick” scheme. You will have to work to make money. While the average person can easily make $500 to $5,000 a month online, making any amount of money requires specialized knowledge and the appropriate effort.

Let’s review our scam checklist, shall we?

  • Anonymous online figure claiming to make millions of dollars online… check.
  • Screenshots that “prove” these earnings… check.
  • Claims that ANYONE can make an upper-class income in their spare time… check.
  • Absolutely no mention of what you’ll be doing to make money… check.
  • A countdown timer claiming entrance to the program is going to expire… check.

Once again we have a website from an anonymous figure claiming he makes more money than you do online and you’re a sucker for waiting this long to not send him money.

The Truth

Remember that company that was widely popular in the late 90’s that sold pills that may or may not have caused you to lose weight and either get hepatitis or die? Yes, Herbalife. Well, now for only $39.95 you too can receive a useless pack of marketing materials that show you how to become a multi-level marketer and waste more time and money than you can afford.

Click here to learn more about online scams and how to protect yourself.

The Proof

I got an email from him (Paul) and it he seems to be upfront and honest.

Seems to be yes!
BUT if he were TRULY ‘upfront and honest’ he would tell you right off the bat that this is HERBALIFE!!

Herbalife may be a good company, but it has definitely suffered from typical MLM associated problems, at least as far as IMAGE is concerned!
That’s why most MLM’s won’t even tell you their name until they feel they have your complete attention.

I got involved though, as far as getting the ‘work at home starter kit’ because, he offered to pay for the shipping. AND, he promised I’d be earning money within TWO WEEKS of receiving the ‘the work at home starter kit’.

Apparently he did pay for shipping.
I got the $9.95 shipping cost refunded to my PAYPAL account.

I see no way in hell that one can make a DIME with that ‘work at home starter kit’ though!
He also offers some free memberships in online opps that are supposed to make money for you.
Since you won’t make any money doing surveys or working an online dollar store either, you will have to pay to ship that ‘work at home starter kit’ BACK to where it came from – and where it BELONGS!

That’s the whole of the story basically but for details:

The $9.95 ‘work at home starter kit’ is no more than an advertisement package:
A 12 page booklet with one CD and one DVD in the inner folds.
The ENTIRE DVD is a presentation on the value of a home based business v. working for someone else.
(Does anyone already looking to do a home business really need this kind of reminder?
Seems like a waste of a DVD to me!)

The CD is an audio collection of success statements of those who got involved with OBS (online business systems – but really HERBALIFE).

The 12 page booklet partially describes this ‘opportunity’ in every way, except to tell you that it’s HERBALIFE!
And, you won’t find the word HERBALIFE mentioned in the DVD, CD, or booklet!

This 12 page booklet and CD/DVD will ‘cost’ you $39.95 if you don’t return it in a ‘resaleable condition’.

But I fail to see where a 12 page document (hardly even a booklet) and two discs are worth $39.95 in the first place!
I also fail to see where this is a ANY kind of ‘work at home starter kit’ either.
I know I can’t start work at home using this kit!

‘Paul’ said that within 2 weeks they will ask you for $39.95 but ‘you will have earned way more by that time’.
I guess this is supposed to refer to the programs he offers in conjunction with the ‘partner with paul’ package:
And some other program so equally useless, I am not even going to go through the trouble of trying to re-locate the name of.

You will finally find out you are previewing HERBALIFE when your ‘coach’ gives you the call.
My coach was polite and informative and also mentioned that ‘they’ weren’t taking a hard line on the return of the $39.95 ‘package’ as to deadline or condition – just be reasonable.
That’s good.

Doing HERBALIFE requires scheduling phone calls so I would reject their offer on that basis alone – which could have saved EVERYONE involved in this both time AND money, if they had simply told me that beforehand (I will have to pay to mail this package-thing back after all!).

I believe my coach was making money with HERBALIFE but, once I heard the name HERBALIFE associated with OBS – after doing some ‘googling’, I was turned off and hoping that I would discover something different when I received my package.

Mr. ‘Upfront and Honest’ says that the offer expires on ‘midnight or sooner’ of whatever day you click on to partnerwithpaul.com.

And apparently, this ‘offer’ hasn’t ‘expired’ yet!

I followed a link in a ‘Manifestation Meditation’ newsletter from Justin Blake at newsletter@jbvirtualnews.com promoting a home-business via Partnerwithpaul.com. This website showed a video of ‘Paul’ w/ a ‘fuzzed-out’ face, (red-flag #1) and blacked out last name (red-flag #2). He was promoting a home-business that he ‘developed’ and wanted to share it with those interested in having a business also. He talked about ‘trust’…ha, ha! You were asked to fill out a form and he would send you a DVD explaining his business. I rec’d a DVD/booklet w/ a letter from someone claiming to be my Personal Coach, Kristy Borrowe. I was charged $9.95 for S&H (which I agreed to & paid w/a cc). Got it yesterday. I wasted almost 1.5 hrs. of my time reading/viewing a DVD that was all about HERBALIFE and was hosted by an Herbalife distributor(s) called Emiko and Doran Andry, trying to recruit. This Andry guy was convincing at first, but I became very suspicious when he would reveal the name of the business or company & claims to have made $1million in one month during his career. I didn’t want a DVD about an MLM..that is NOT what I believed I was going to be receiving.

If I had known that, I NEVER, EVER would have followed-through. This absolutely constitutes deceitful, and unlawful business practices on the behalf of everyone involved in this transaction: Justin Blake, Paul (whatever his last name is), Kristy Borrowe, the Herbalife Corporation and its distributors, Doran and Emiko Andry.

For any of these individuals to admits to being innocent of this knowledge is flat-out WRONG. If you have to stoop this low to get people to ‘buy into’ the business, your trust & your MLM goes out the door. Shame on you!

Daly city, California

There it is.

Don’t partner with Paul.

How Does Partner with Paul Compare?

I’ve Tried That has been reviewing products since 2007. In that time, there’s one program that stands above the rest. It’s free to get started, has no ridiculous hidden charges, and will help you build a sustainable income from home.

Let’s see how Partner With Paul compares…


    1. Gracias once again Amigo!!
      I´ve seen this Paul guy everywhere!
      I saw him a long time ago and like you say he stated that there was a count-down….it´s the longest count-down I have ever seen!!
      He is still counting down!!!
      What an A…..%/%$%&#”$!!!

    2. Like an idiot, I ordered the partner with paul package today for $9.95, without googling it first. Do you reccomend that I send the package back immediately unopened, as to not “damage” what’s inside? I’d appreciate some advice about this, thank you so much. Eric

    3. I signed up for PWP, using the name
      Biteme A$$hole, several months ago.

      I never actually followed through because it looked like an obvious scam – His automated spam generator is still sending me emails
      and they all refer to me using the name Biteme!!(lmao)

    4. This motherfucker scammed me over $3424.45. He send me a private email saying if if i joined his shares privately he would give me 1/100 of the profits. I joined and he stuck me with an unsuitable contract until i have paid a total of $7300. Now I’m paying for his ads about $26 dollars every day.

    5. I finally found out the truth about the guru. He almost got to sign up for his false tale. Thank you so much for your website. Not having a job and looking for some way to make income, so Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.Libby

    6. hi
      your opinion is bogus!! i dont really know about this paul guy or his methods. but, your review enlightened me to the fact you dont know what herbalife is, it is not a scam at all! you mentioned Doran. I personally know Doran and he IS making a MILLION+ a month!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have see copies of his checks. The fact is that there are many different methods you can take in Herbalife, maybe pauls isnt the best or cheapest. But anyone that wants to work for their money and have the sky as their limit, can do it with herbalife! does residual income sound good to you? my mon is making 5 grand a month and she doesnt even work anymore. Her friend is making 20 grand a month!! this does work, ask me how! i can get Doran to help you!

    7. This is a scam simple cause if herbalife is good then why not just say what it is, 2 this guy hides his face and real voice saying to protect his idenity more like to keep him from going to jail and third he says its about doing advertising for all kinds of companys even shows it in his fake spread sheets ithinnk if you hide things don’t say who you are lie and misrepsent your self then your a crook if herbalife was smart and os good then they sue this guy
      Its a scam folks pure in simple i have see alot of them
      Hes a crook the video was shot in his parents house the guys young and can build a website and knows alot about computers

    8. Damn I just got screwed. DAmn Damn Damn. There is supposed to be a business coach that contacts you within 48 hours. I asked the “coach” this sounds too good to be true you pay nothing and you get paid in return? THe guy said well I am sending you a package through the email and lets make an appointment for a followup. I asked him why he is being evasive and he said well I dont need to deviate from the something. I am not being evasive but I want you to read the email first and then we will talk at our appointment. He said his name is ROBERT TISON 815-678-2444. I called him back for my refund and I go straight to email all the time. I WANT MY MONEY BACK. I needed that money too I feel so stupid now. I already paid the $9.95 online.

      Don’t fall for it! Let it go I wish I did. Can’t wait til my appt to tell his ass off.Its tomorrow at 6pm.

    9. I feel for all the scammed out there in the world. We were all one of them, and if not yet will be soon. I have been doing this marketing stuff for 7 years now, and COMPLETE HONESTY is hard to find in this arena. There are good businesses out there, and money is being made. One piece of advice…..Be Sure You Know WHO you are getting involved with no matter what company you join.

    10. Boy do I feel dumb. My girl said dont do it and I did it I got screwed. One thing I wanna know is how can these things excist and still being created everyday. When you make a system it needs to be fool proof. Understandably we take our cards out and type the numbers but if a business is to be started whos overseeing the process to see that it works. Hell at this point I’m thinking about starting an online scam. Shid a million bucks ova 5yrs if you get caught why not there are people just like me waiting to get robbed rite now, and are happy there only losing 9.95, but if you times that by 10,000 you see why the scammers do it. I believe in karma so what goes around comes around. I’m done with this shit I’m going to Mickey D’s mite as well.

    11. Cowtown Boy says:

      Thank God I googled first!!!

      Thanks for saving me the hassle.

    12. Thank god I google ..IF it’s too good to be true, then google it “is this a scam?” I have been scamed twice before: once is the mystery shopping deal, and the other is the “send $100 and you will get your money back and more once your name is moving up the top of the list” You guys know that scam? Man, I was young and stupid, Now I know easy money is never true!!!

    13. I received the e-mail and decided to google the name first, too. Glad I did. I won’t make the mistake others have made. Thanks for the heads-up. I won’t waste my money. I, too, wish there was someone honest out there, as both me and my husband are unemployed at this time. Every dollar counts. Too bad there are so many waiting in line to take your last penny- and dishonestly at that. Thanks for this venue to check out these things.

    14. I always look for the bad in money making schemes from home. I outweigh the bad versuses the good, so far Partner with paul has lost miserably. You know for a sucker like that to want to manipulate average joes like us is just shameful. Does he know everything comes to an end? Frankly speaking I wouldnt give him a penny if I had one!

    15. thank god i googled is there any real jobs out there that is not a scam

    16. I got a link in a newsletter I thought I could trust. I never intended to send any money but wanted to see what it was about. Fortunately I used a throw away email address to get as far as I could without paying. Within 2 days I started receiving spam on that email address. He’s also selling his list to other scams or running other scams. I also tried unsubscribing from his emails but they didn’t stop.

    17. Thanks so much for your review of this business! I actually ordered the DVD months ago and when I watched it and found out it was herbalife I sent it back and got refunded. It really is hard to find a legit home business. Always google/research any home business opportunity before shelling out any money. You will be surprised when you find out what’s out there. Good luck!

    18. Thank you soooo very much for this warning! I was on the final step, to order the OBS when I decided to Google it. I am so glad I did. Thanks again.
      And kelin, The point is, this should be explained upfront that it is Herbalife. We should not have to find out after we have given our info and paid the shipping fee. And this guy should not be hidden. His claims are not legit. And he should be doing this the right way. Herbalife is for certain people to get involved in, some of us do not want to do that type of work. Like Almway, its not for everyone and we should not have to waste out time finding out this is what we would be into.

    19. Any business (and I mean any business) where they ask you to pay for something first before you get to work and get paid is bogus. Never ever let these guys get a penny from you. If they want you to work for them, they should provide all the supplies needed for you to get started.
      These scams are just going to get worse. Because so many people are losing their jobs, I’m sure a lot will check these websites out.
      I clicked on Partner with paul and saw they wanted $9.95 after saying they wouldn’t ask for a dime. They welcomed me to check out their business with the BBB. Yeah right. Please don’t fall for any scamming business that asks for money up front. Real employers will give you want you need to make them successful. This company is asking you to start with ten bucks to make them successful. Are you going to bite or just let that one go? I let it go. I’ll deal with spam and no money out of pocket.

    20. I too read this partner with paul scam, and like many of you before me, I googled the business…And well, whatta ya know; IT’S A SCAM! I was a skeptic from the outset, and after reading all of your testimonials, I’M SO GLAD THAT I FOLLOWED MY FIRST MIND TO GOOGLE YET ANOTHER SCAM…Too bad that these people can continue to do this, but as Michael said on Feb 1, don’t ever pay for anything up front.

    21. When will it ever stop! Well never I would guess. Why do these people need to rip people off? Is there no legit stuff out there?
      Working on this internet stuff for a few weeks now I know it will take awhile to figure out. Thanks for the heads up on this.

      Be true


    22. This was recommended from a forum about another work from home scam that I was checking out. Wow, even the sites that reveals scams are offering scams themselves!

    23. About a year ago i was almost fooled by vector marketing until right before my interview a couple days before when my friend over aim told me it was a complete scam and i didnt wanna believe it. He said “just google it” and wow i’m so glad i did and then i found out that a whole bunch of my friend as well were almost tricked/tricked so ever since then if it has anything to do with making any kind of money quick i google it im SOOO glad i googled it the no money down bit almost got me. Just remember google is your best friend!

    24. I found this blog while doing a bit of research to see what Paul is up to now and how he’s running his scam since Streamline Magic and Shaklee. I should have been making a list because I’ve been tracking him for at least 4 years.

      If you lined up every scam Paul Birdsall has had his hand in, you could cover the U.S. or Canada end to end.

      One of the latest ads I saw for him really disgusted me and was so true – it stated something to the fact that ‘big heavy hitters’ were laughing at those who are not. Yes, indeed, Paul Birdsall is making a laughing stock out of anyone who signs up with him.

      Paul and his gang DO NOT care about YOU or YOUR Success – they only care about the next easy buck for THEM… and if you are not careful, that buck is going to be coming out of YOUR wallet.

      Yes, as the last commenter stated “Just remember google is your best friend!”

      Be safe, be smart, do your due diligence and stay away from Paul Birdsall and his CRONNIES – that is unless you have money to burn. If you want to join Herbalife, find a sponsor who really will help you – I can GUARANTEE Paul and his gang WON’T.

    25. Hey everyone, I’ll give you all one even better than all of the posted comments: I spoke to a customer service rep from the Better Business Bureau of Columbus where I’m from, and she simply told me that there is NO SUCH THING AS HOME BASED BUSINESSES! Unless you are working for a company that allows you to work from home (hint: such as the one you already work for) DO NOT EVER PAY FOR ANYTHING UP FRONT. She stated that if a company wants you to from home, they will provide you will all of the necessary tools for FREE! Read it again folks: FREE! Don’t get taken advantage people, because if it sounds too good to be true, then it most likely is…

    26. Thanks for saving me some time and wasted energy. I am so glad this website is here!

      Way to go, guys!

    27. Thanks everyone for the in-site on Partner with Paul. I was on Craigslist and seen the ad. The ad can pull you in but it’s sites like this that keep everyone from harmful scams.

      I will do everything in my power to find a work from home business that is legitimate, easy to apply and that doesn’t take much money if any to start.

      Once I am making over $2k a month I will come back to this site and post the information so you can also make the same or more.

      I know it’s a tough time for us all but if we stand together and help each other succeed then we can change our lives and then the world.

      If anyone else out there knows of a homebased opportunity that is real then please take the time to let us know.

      Much Success to us ALL

    28. Hi, thank you very much for this review. I wanted to join this and when I realised I have to pay $ 9.95, I clicked on close button on webpage. Then a popup appeared saying, I have a special offer that they reduced the price to $ 7.4… Then I wanted to join. But thank god, my CC declined the payment and I observed, I never saw any place to mention how much I have to pay (or how much they can withdraw from CC. And I was suspicious that they don’t accept payment from paypal or alter pay).

      And if anybody knows a ligit website to earn real money please let me know.

    29. tasha9000 says:

      Thanks for the “heads up”. Definitely will not be joining now!

    30. All of us just want a real genuine business opportunity, especially in this economy, I am so tired of these scams. wow this site is ridiculous.

      Just when you think you might have found a real work at home business you find out it’s completely bogus. I have been wanting to start a work at home business of some sort and some way for a long time. I would love to partner with somebody and come up with some real ideas and real ways to start a business. If anyone wants to talk about it, i’m all ears for ideas and would love to get something going, or if you have an ideas or real businesses let me know –


      I know I am just this close to starting something…Id’ love to hear from ya

    31. Jeff, I think a joint venture of some kind is a good idea. I don’t know what it would look like, though. Maybe check out the independent recruiting opportunity. You could find a partner to work with and split the costs.

    32. Thanks for everyone’s input. I too have order PWP package and waiting for it. I want to see what it’s all about, and if it’s Herbalife than I’m not interested.

      However I don’t feel it’s a scam and neither should anyone else.

      A scam is when someone takes your money and disappears.

      Everything else is marketing. Some are more upfront and some are not, which I don’t agree with their methods, but I’m an internet marketer, I have bought every program under the sun, but I’ve figured out how to make money and I am making a six figure income online. I too promote a very lucrative program, but it’s not for everyone though.

      The point is, don’t look at ads as scams just because they make big claims. Look at it as lessons in marketing and take the best from it, then trow out the rest.

    33. promising big money in short time with no experience is sure to be a scam
      If this is true everyone would be out of debt.

    34. I have just signed up with the program. I will give it a try to see if it works. However, the moment they start asking for more money before I even earn back the $9.95 I have already given, i’m pulling out. Now that i have read all your reviews, i’m am terrified of what paul is offering.But its too late now because i have already paid the s&h. Will come back to let you know what happens….

    35. Yep I’m one of the many that fell for the PWP scam, although herbalife did help me lose alot of weight and my sponsers were really great people its the .01% of people that make 6 figure incomes with herbalife, much to be said about 5by3 matrix,get in on the ground level, pre-launch blah blah blah. To be completely honest I really did find a great work from home business…..AFTER I READ THE BOOK “SUCCESS IN 10 STEPS”. For those of you that are seeking the freedom that all those non-5 pillar companies are talking about..start here,RandyFried.successin10steps.com, learn from people that really will help you for free.

    36. There should be a list called “How to Scam in 10 easy steps.

      Inclusive to that list is things such as:

      1. Don’t use your real name. Use a fictitious name.
      2. Don’t tell them the product until the hook and line has been snared.
      3. Promise outrageous income in a short period.
      4. Lure them into paying larger amount as the become increasingly involved.
      5. Don’t publish addresses or telephone numbers (Tracking will be more difficult)
      6. Don’t return the money they gave you.
      7. Make it a limited offer, time and/or amount of people.
      8. Don’t indicate that you’re listed in the BBB. They might want to search and determine if you’re legit or bogus.
      9. Make it appear that they’re getting something for FREE and will then cost them.
      10. Run when they get to close to tracking you down.

    37. Miguel. (Freerunner) says:

      Hey! Just showing some appriciation! I am a full time college student and I haven’t had a job for about months! It hasn’t been easy for me. I am now going through rough times and decided to go job hunting like never before. I ran into the partner with paul advertisement. As desperate as I am, I almost fell for the trap. I did spot out some of the possibilities of it being a scam.
      I wouldn’t have imagined it being herbalife. It’s funny, I had a friend bring me to the guy running the herbalcrap. They tried really hard to convince me to join, but I was too smart for the. ;) I could tell right off the bat that this is something which you put lots of time and money into, so you can make less money then you used. Anyways…. You confirmed that it would have been a waste. I was very desperate for money and almost did a mistake untill I opened this page. Thanks again!!!

    38. If anyone reading this blog is really truly looking for an opportunity its hard to find one thats not a scam but I have found a way working with a health and wellness company that was put together by a true leader in the marketing industry. NO FRIENDS NO FAMILY NO BS. Feel free to contact me because I fell into this trap!!!
      Randy Fried

    39. Ouu shit!,What a mistake, yesterday I made a an ads in google and spend about $20 not much but heck, the stats in affiliate program doesn’t work! What a fuc*g scamer he is. And think that the ads that he proosed to use was “sick of scams?” heh.
      Definitelly thanks for that review! I can only say that internet is full of scams, hopefully when I was starting out with online business I meet some legitimate guys who tought affiliate marketing. If you want to know more huys just fell free to go to my website affiliate-wealth-secrets.com, this is full step by step course of affiliate marketing, and that business model works.

    40. While I am glad I found this site and found out about the Paul guy, I just wanted to mention one thing….the reason why he could not mention HERBALIFE was because he isn’t allowed to. With HERBALIFE there are many ways to get people in the business to get you a residual income, but you can’t use their name to do it. Anyone can sign up with the company but unless you go out and sell it like AVON and call yourself an independent distributor of HERBALIFE, then you can’t use it….most people that don’t mention it are part of their own group to recruit people.

      That being said…I am so glad I saw this cuz I would not be interested in HERBALIFE…although the products do work and are 100% guaranteed, I would like to know what I am getting into before I get into it. That seems sneaky and dishonest to tell folks after the fact….if you can’t say the name atleast say what type of work it is.

    41. You who wish to be successful in marketing, learn to market yourself. dont fall in love with a product or a company, find a company that will WORK for you, not work for YOU! There are many ways to make money but your searh for residual income is much harder to find. Dont buy leads or make a list of all your friends and family, its the worst thing you can do. Tish is right great products but WRONG compensation plan. Wanna learn the truth? For FREE? http://RandyFried.bigmlmtruths.com

    42. 4ureyzonly says:

      Okay I’m a computer geek, and love to work on it all the time! I got an email stating that this was the way to go. So I went online and looked at the video. I was a little excited to hear what “could” be but my common sense didn’t kick in until a few seconds later. Well because I know how it sounds when you type, whenever I heard Mr.Paul typing in his name and password, it actually sounded like one of those old typewriters where you push the button and the letter smacks the page. So this is why I’m here because I never sign up for anything that costs a dime unless I first check it out and I couldn’t find it on BBB. I just thought that was really interesting so I wanted to share.

    43. You hit the nail on the head with that one! Paul is pretty shady to be hiding what he really does. It’s too bad people fall for stuff like this. I recently became involved with an internet coach and he has taught me many ways to promote my Network Marketing business online. I now get leads and sign ups for free even though I’m not very good on the phone. Matter of fact I rarely have to use the phone! Click on my name if you are interested in some coaching for your internet business.

    44. Thank god I googled this first I almost fell for it! Phew!! if anyone knows any legit sites to go to for working at home please let all of us know!

    45. Paulo Pereira says:

      Thanks for this review!

      Wow, so this is HERBALIFE?! I tried signing up with PWP but my cc order never went through (and I never bothered to retry). Thank goodness for that!

      I signed up with Herbalife some years ago, not knowing much about it. When they asked me to buy products and keep inventory, I told them I’d think about it. Then I did some research on the company and very little of what I found made HL look good. So I quit at the first opportunity — perhaps why my cc never went through!

    46. Paulo Pereira says:

      BTW, I learned of PWP through a site called Reviewopedia. Something to keep in mind, perhaps.

    47. Well folks i shoulda researched it first, Thannk you all for your resp abt partner with paul. You guys prob saved me some cash.


    48. Chinatown says:

      How proud will his children be once they find out their father is a thief.

    49. I found this website and wanted to add a comment. I like surfing the web and finding out about such scams. I got one of those emails and thought to myself “wonder what this person is scamming?”. He is a scam simply because the idiot put an address in he email so I did a google map search and since I live close the the city he used I wanted to see this place. It was a vacant lot. Trees, bushes and grass. He even went so far as to have a suite number. I guess he must be like the keebler elves and lives in a tree and that is his suite.

      Hope this helps

    50. I know nothing about partner with paul… but what i do know is i make 6,000 a month doing the herbalife mlm and retailing and have only been doing it for 7 months…the products do work! it isnt the worlds largest most profitble nutrition company in the world because the products suck.. the problem is that all you people are looking for a get rich quick scheme.. they dont exist!! you have to put an investment into anything to get a return, thats just the way it is….you are not being scammed out of 9.95 , you agreed to buy the package under the terms to review about having a home based business ..thats what is about and thats what you receive .. just because you dont like what the busines is once you get it does not mean you have been scammed.. you are not going to get rich or make a living for that matter sitting on your butt and doing nothing.. stop lookig for the get rich quick schemes…

    51. I only got nailed for the shipping and handling so far. I am sending back the packet today and wrote a note telling them they cannot take any money out of my account. The package is in ok shape except I highlighted it. I am on my way to the bank right now to close my bank account and open a new one. Remember anyone who offers you to pay a small fee even 2.00 will take money out of your account until you cancel if you don’t cancel within the first few days. Thanks for web sites like yours.

    52. OMG! i should have searched this thing first. Just last night i signed up and paid the 9.95 i think it was, for that kit thing. Grrrrr! =X i feel so dumb right now. I guess i’ll just return the package when i get and and ask for my refund, I’m super pissed i didn’t do some research on this scam before hand.

    53. Ok…did no one else get the immediate sense that the Andry couple is CREEPY???? When I first saw the video all I could think was how utterly creepy the two of them looked…ESPECIALLY her.

    54. Hello! I checked out the paul website through craigslist. I thought it sounds too good to be true but because I am desperate I wanted to believe. Thank goodness, I decided to google his website name. I really appreciate this info and everyone else’s input. (I love that one comment where one person decided to check out the address and found out it was a vacant lot!)

    55. Hello all,

      My name is Joe, and I originally felt that I was royally scammed. I sent for the package, and my wife and I went through with the business. While we were not pleased with all of the business practices that were going on, we had the drive to succeed in own own business.

      Herbalife is an excellent product. I and many family members have achieved very good results in using the products. While yes, the products are not for everyone, 40 million people in the world that are using them can not all be wrong.

      If you want to start a home business, with a product line that 40 million plus customers are already using world wide, and want the straight dope on how to do it for an extremely low start up and maintenance cost, contact me for a call back withing 48 hours. I don’t use the evasive cloak and dagger approach. I’ll tell you what it is, and how to use it.

      I hope to hear from all of you very soon,
      Joe Dee

    56. Cassie Day says:

      I got scammed from what turned out to be a bunch of Nigerians in Lagos, luckily I lost nothing but my pride but I soon learnt + became a scambaiter. I actually managed after 4 long months to get a full confession + details on IM which I later uploaded to warn others. I get swamped by spam in my mail every day but this name was new, so I Googled it to see who this guy was, I had no intentions of replying. Doesn’t surprise me in the least + thanx to u guys, hopefully there will be a lot less people falling for these cowards.. Thanx guys + keep up the good work…;=D

    57. hi, if someone knows anything about that website, or if it’s ascam, please help here’s the link: optimisticaffiliate.com thanks

    58. Well,
      I’m worse….I did sign up for herbalife and got screwed! So let’s count…..
      $9.95 – package, 39.95 to keep it, $149 to sign up, $88 in product, $118 in product ordered that I did not request (this is full price by the way), $20 for the on line traning………So that’s about $425 that I didn’t have in the 1st place. My husband was laid off in Jan 2009 – still not working, I was laid off in June 2009. So obviously I didn’t have a lot of money to throw at this thing. Once my sponsor found that out I shoved to the back corner. Also, I tried taking the products – I can’t handle them….I have a heart condition and they affect my heart. I tried to explain this to my sponsor and she gets all rude. I asked to return the products and shes mouthing off to me how I’m negative and if I REALLY have a heart problem I should take them. Honestly! Like I don’t know how to take care of my condition! On top of all that – my mail was stolen from my mailbox which had my completed application in it – no according to herbalife I don’t exist as a distributor because they don’t have a hard copy – and to get another app is another $50!

      So Yes, stay away! Anytime you head the word ‘Parner with Paul, or Herbalife’ run the other way – hang up the phone, delete the email, etc.

      I hope this helps others not to get suckered like I did. Unfortunatly there is so many out there in dire straits financially that we can get suckered in soooo easily. Please be careful!

    59. Im so glad that I googled this first! This asshole needs to be taken out to the back shed and have his thievin ass beat like a red-headed stepChild. In Texas, thats what we call true justice……scammers beware!

    60. First of all, if you get an UNSOLICITED emal promising big bucks, RED FLAG!
      I am inundated with these offers daily. I google everyone. And everyone has turned out to be a scam. As one previous posted mentioned, if you are asked to pay up front, IT’S A SCAM! And there is no such thing as home based businesses unless you are offered a job by a reputable company that pays any expenses upfront.

      C’mon people, if it sounds too good to be true…you know the rest. Do some research. Google the company. Odds are, it’s a scam. I’ve yet to find a legit company from an unsolicited email and odds are, I never will. If you sign up for a site to become a member, more than likely your email address will up on a list and you’ll recieve these offers up the wahzoo. So I suggest that when you do sign up for ANY site, use a yahoo account or hotmail or a free email service. NEVER use an email account provided by your interternet provider!

      Remember, with any transaction, CAVEAT EMPTOR! (Buyer beware) Be skeptical, don’t hesitate to research and/or call the BBB. Lastly, don’t be one of the “suckers born every minute.”

    61. Jarred Nielsen says:

      Hey Guys, I got screwed too. Grrrr. The stupid guy sounded so honest and crap. I actually did have a sponsor all me up, quite quickly actaully, but he still did the whole “can’t really tell you what it really is” thing, but as naive as I am, I was still interested. He did tell me how it would only cost $299 to join up and I could be making tons. Then he went on to tell me that it was HerbaLife and finally the red flags went up. I did some research and glad I came accross this site, as I will now not pay the $299. At least I am only out $10. I have been trying to find a legitimate only business now, and not sure if too many exist. For those interested, I have found one that has made money for me so far (a measly $100 in a month, but that’s better than losing money I guess). Some of you might make more money at it than I have so far, and hopefully I can make a little more too, but wanted to let you know about it as it is pretty easy. Let me know if anyone finds anything else good out there.

      Oh yeah, screw HerbaLife!!

    62. Jasmine Angel says:

      Hello everyone,

      I am certainly glad that I decided to google this “Partner With Paul” before handing him my hard-earned on cash. There is definitely something about him that screams the word “shyster”. At any rate, I must say that I disagree with some of the things that are being said on this forum. First of all, I don’t know why people have it in their heads that you should NEVER have to pay anything to be able to work from the comfort of your own home. Working from home is a privilege, NOT a right. There are times when it does take money to make money, and certain things should not be given for free. Granted, there are a lot of scammers out there who will not deliver what they promise and may even take your money and run. But, there are some legitimate online businesses that are honest and will NOT stoop so low as to scam an innocent person…And, guess what? Some on those STILL cost money to join. Nothing in life is free and the world doesn’t owe you anything. Please stop thinking that you shouldn’t have to pay for a luxury that oh so many of us dream about everyday. Goodness.

    63. I am so tired of surfing all the scam sites and reading about people getting ripped off. It’s a shame that the internet is full of scam artist when it comes to making money. I tried so many different “systems” when the web first started back in the mid 90’s with AOL and I lost some money here and there but I think of it as payment on education.
      I got educated on the morality of most of these fellows who rip you off by selling you a pipe dream; they don’t even bat an eye when they claim to be rolling in dough, vacationing somewhere in Costa Rica; what a laugh!!
      I learned to make my own way and I don’t have to lie to anyone. I’m not getting rich overnight but at least I don’t have to work for anyone except myself. You can too.

    64. This guy has been spaming me for months now.. so i decided to do some research on it. hes not affliated with the BBB. if you go online and look it up, theyve contacted him about taking the BBB off of his website… yet he still has not.
      Its got SCAM written all over it.

    65. Bobbie Smith says:

      I have been scammed in the past so I was careful about this one especially since they made no disclosure of what it is selling. HERBALIFE>>>I would have returned it immediately. DO BOT be persueded by these few folks who have said it is an AD not a SCAM. BULL it is a scam and they are probably written by people involved in the scam using various emails and names. Anyone who reads their “AD” and thinks it isnt a scam is a fool or involved. Now I google anything before I buy so thanks for this ad I appreciate it. They should all be arrested. Why not say it is herbalife right up front…because too many people have used their products and found them to be less then advertised. I wouldnt buy a pencil made by them. Thanks again you have earned my “saving other people’s asses award”

    66. I’m always filled with disgust whenever something like this pulls up in my email inbox or on the sides of websites I frequently visit. Seems like all I have to do is put my name and email out to get these useless offers instead of serious inquiries for honest work. Every time I get something similar to these online marketing ploys, I always google them for shits and grins to see exactly how these work. At this point I’ve only seen one that’s remotely legit that I will never use anyway because the system is a crock of shit and there’s a ton of risk involved. Good on you for educating the masses of this sort of bullshit!

    67. I’ve been looking at Herbalife for some months now. My girlfriend told me about them when we met early this year.
      I agree with you all that there is no way to get rich quick. I’ve run my my own consulting business, which cost me alot to setup. But over time became profiable, as any person who starts a business… it costs money to set up. So why should any business give you something for free?
      I’ve worked in many different sectors, good and bad. Any of them, it costs you to get to work, bus, car, train etc. the company doesn’t pay you to get to work! Only for work you complete!

      A few facts about Herbalife which I’ve found.
      $3.8 bil company, on the NYSE, which means they are Audited on a regular basis, a scam company would not survive one year of auditing.
      Established 28yrs
      40mill customers
      1.9mil independent distributors
      double digit growth for over the last 6yrs
      Featured on Mad Money CNN where the analyst said it was the Best marketing company to buy shares in!!

      So, if its a scam, why is it so successful??
      I have been to a couple of their seminars and met some of the more successul people. They’ve not made their fortunes overnight, but over 10-15yrs.
      Now I’ve being working for 20yrs in banking and not made anywhere near the money some of these have made. So there must be some thing good about it.

      If herbalife had shops – like bodyshop- where you could walk ina buy the product… does it make it any better? Actually no, the overheads would be higher and those would be passed on to the customer.
      Have you seen the priced of Bodyshop products? they are good but expensive. Same sales model.

      My girlfriends makes a small amount from it but she doesn’t think on larger scale. I on the other hand am seeing the UK as an opportunity to make a good business out of it.

      Like any business, to be successful and profitable one has to invest! A five year plan should provide a return in 6-12months 2-3yrs and it should be profitable.

      People see the claims and expect to make money straight away, that doesn’t happen in any job!

      If I could put the amount of effort I put in for the Bank (10hrs per day) to Herbalife, I’d be earning 2 or 3 times what I am now.

      Also, why should training be free? I have to pay fro my professional trainging £2k-£4k a time!! for courses, so why would you complain about £60 for a 2 day seminar! My security seminars are £300-£400 per day!!

      Ok I do agree that MLM’s have a bad reputation, who complains about AVON or Bodyshop Cleanezee, their marketing models are the same or similar!

      The trouble is, the way I see it, people will always abuse the system they are in, once they see a way to make money fast. Big business do it all the time. Just look at the banks! They screw us over and then we pay them out!

      Petrol prices… thats a scam, well.. certainly not fair.

      BTW I’m not a herbalife distributor, I don’t have time, lol… if I did, I would.

    68. Nicole DeGrate says:

      This Paul Myers fellow almost had me with “I don’t have any eBooks, courses or “membership sites” to sell you” and “I’m not going to ask you for a dime.”

      So let me get this straight, he’s going to help me make 5 and 6 figure incomes without selling me something because he’s doing it out of love and wanting to see his fellowman succeed, BULLSHIT!

      I was watching a true life movie one time, (I can’t remember the name), but towards the end, the character said her grandfather told her once “if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably IS” and that saying stuck with me.

      I was always skeptical of this Paul fellow, so I used my Norton Safe Search which gives me a green tick on websites and that’s how I came across ivetriedthat.com and I’m glad I did. This review has saved me time & money.

      Thank you to the Author Steve

    69. Nicole DeGrate says:

      I want to respond to this comment made by the user “DrDax”:

      “I’ve run my my own consulting business, which cost me alot to setup. But over time became profiable, as any person who starts a business… it costs money to set up. So why should any business give you something for free?
      …it costs you to get to work, bus, car, train etc. the company doesn’t pay you to get to work! Only for work you complete!”

      Let’s get one thing clear, Paul Myers is offering WORK FROM HOME, in short, he is offering you a JOB VACANCY and NOT a business deal with say, for instance, Microsoft or Pepsi or with Oprah.

      Yes it does costs you travel expenses to get to work. However, if Macy’s store was offering me a job vacancy, would they want me to buy an item from their store first and then pay for shipping and handling before they employ me? NO! And THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE!!!

      Bottom line, PartnerWithPaul IS a scam anyway you want to look at it. Once someone is asking you for money in return for employment, that’s a definite red flag. Similarly when it comes to starting your own business, there are banks/agencies who loan you the start-up capital that you pay back AFTER your business is up and running.

    70. Partner with Paul is noyhing but a BIG , BIG SCAM. I maile the B.S.er @50.00 2 months ago, you’ll get your stuff in 3, 4 weeks. I haven’t heard a damn word from him or any one with his org. He is a BIG crock of SHIT. Do not believe anything that he says. A complete RIP off, Is what he is. Jack Brown

    71. Thank You everyone for providing me your valuable updates. I was thinking of paying Paul but after reading about him I have changed my mind. I will pass this on to everyone.. If anyone knows genuine business that can be done from home please let me know.. I am really tired reading about scams. Want to know about a tried and tested work from home business.

    72. I answered & joined from an Herbalife site. I love to sell face to face. Then I saw Partner with Paul. The lady played a recording over the phone that said Herbalife. Told her I was already selling Herbalife, she said ‘Sorry, you can’t use our marketing plan, because your already a member.’

      The kicker – according to the Herbalife ‘rules’, Partner with Paul is in violation, and Herbalife should shut him down! ‘The rules’ say you can’t use the word ‘Herbalife’ in an ad, can’t put up a sign that can be read from the street, can’t sell the product in a store…. Wear the button, use the product, carry the bag, tell how the product helped you. You can send people to the Herbalife website, which does say herbalife.com. It works, if you work.

      To the lady who can’t use the product, DL. Even tho it is ‘not allowed’ there are many private Herbalife websites. Most of these people will help you return the product. Sorry you got someone who refused to help. You don’t have to return it to your sponsor. If you can’t find a site, answer the weight loss ads and tell them your problem. In the Herbalife sales books, it admits its not for everyone. Hope this helps.

    73. This Paul Meyers or Myers can not pronounce his surname correctly even. Nob. Once it is Meyers and other time Myers. What a waste of space he is.

    74. Obviously…It’s not a scam. Because the things you are talking about are not at upfront and it’s a same system as Affiliate Marketing. “Partner With Paul” has in-house affiliate program and they pay their affiliates to recruit members to join their team. They have their own product store, When any member join them, They send them money making kit and ask to promote their Herbal Products via various paid advertisements. People without any marketing skill, When promote their product with paid advertisement – they are only going to loose their money online. Hence, they can’t earn money.
      Also, There are no trustworthy resources where people can earn money. If you really want to earn money then you should only try Affiliate Marketing.


    75. Thank you so much for that information. I almost fell for that crap!!

    76. Wow, I see all the responses, however, I must not have read this to it’s entirety…..I thought it was about setting up a website and you get so many hits and you get paid….Oh my, what was I really reading…..To all you hope to be entreprenuers….The only thing I would I would send money for might me information for work at home information…My advice is to check out all information to it’s entirety first and always be skeptical of things on the internet that encourages you to send money in hopes to make a bunch of money.

    77. yeah…. I was so excited and signed up for this thing too…. I was waiting like a kid for this idiotic “starter kit”….Then I opend it and was like ” Yeah……” Then I found your blog and today just sent that Decision Pack (which was a total waste of paper and dvd in my opinion) back.
      Do I feel stupid ?? Hmmm, I wouldn’t say that. Actually I make a conclusion this was my lesson, and Im grateful that it did cost me $9.95 but not a $100 ( sorry DL ) or some ppl get scammed for thousands of bucks.
      That was a good lesson. I felt bad for an hour,only an hour lol. especially with all those bad reviews about making money online that just kill ur dream while u reading them). So I decided to stop putting this negative stuff in my head. I become more motivated, then I started to search for REAL web site creating stuff, I found a lot of FREE Ebook’s with great INFO, I no Longer pay attention to the Easy Money ads,I dont even CLICK on them, I don’t want to pay a cent to this Connies.
      Im on my way to create my first web site and start advertising, I know it will take time, prob a few months to see a first dollar. I will put as much effort as possible. Eventually I will create My own GREAT web site and start selling My Own products (which will be exclusive handmade decor accessories ).

      hmm somebody will ask me, How did it all started ??
      Well, I’ll answer, once I get scammed by……………………..

      Good luck to everyone.

      P.s. stay away from this website I just found , beautiful web site BUT big time SCAM http://www.newsdaily7.com

    78. Ram I have to disagree with your statement of: If you want to make money you should only do affiliate marketing.

      There are a LOT of things I did not understand when I came to the internet searching for a way to earn income.

      1. I had owned a traditional business for around 12 years. People I dealt with were people of integrity and character.

      Welcome to Internet 101 – there are no police around protecting the innocent or naive unless the situation gets really, really big, and victims complain. However, too many victims just say “oh well, that was a scam” and never report the situation beyond complaining on someone’s site.

      2. I was confused about the terms used in “work from home”/”online job” / “Online Business”

      Coming from the traditional business view…. Work and Job in the terms we mostly see on the internet translated to: A JOB where I got paid for performing tasks, but do the work at home.

      An online business meant: operate a business providing goods or services from your home without that traditional ‘storefront overhead’.

      It’s a simple concept – Never in my JOB working career did I expect to PAY to get the job.

      Never in my business ownership did I expect to start that business or operate that business without there being expenses.

      Yet we come to the internet looking for miracle solutions like it is some magical Aladdin’s lamp, which in turn makes us all susceptible to the hustling con artists with on integrity or character.

      Ram, one of the biggest hustles is affiliate marketing. Ever heard of Affiliate Link Leakage? Yes, it’s low cost in most cases, but what a racket.

      We have to learn HOW to tell the good from the BAD and stop thinking that money is EASY to come by or we can do little to nothing and become rich or join for FREE. The only way that happens in the real world is called WELFARE. It’s easy money, those on it do nothing – the only thing is they do not typically get rich.

      There are chessy websites and very professional looking websites, but a great rule of thumb is – if they are showing you “PROOF” in the form of a capture screen from pay-pal or Alert Pay type processors – RUN. If they are showing you a check – RUN. If you have to PAY to get information- RUN! No phone number on the site-RUN. Money, fancy cars, big houses, people laying out on the beach- RUN.

      We’ve never had to PAY to get a job – and we’ve never been able to start a business without expecting to make some sort of financial investment.

      As Marina said, Someday someone will ask me how I learned all this – I will say, I spent three years getting scammed! You either are forced to learn, keep getting scammed or give up.

    79. oldmanwrinkle says:

      figured as much. that’s why I researched it first. thanx for the info good thing I’m a man of strong morals or i’d start a scam business meanwhile I’ll keep trying to get something legit rolling.

    80. WOW!!! I almost Partner with Paul, so glad I didn’t, it pays to google. Partner with Paul + Scam!

    81. I was stupid and brought the partner with paul.
      I have learn growning up, “You have to spend money to make Money”!!!
      See you go to school to learn, but it wasn’t free your parents paid for the school buy paying taxs and then you finish and you or your parents pay for you college so you can make good or great money.
      So I was stupid and spend money on partner with paul to see if I could make money at home and by reading all of this, I will return it and start all over again to see if I can learn how to make money at home and not spend money on stupid stuff like this.

      Thank YOU and it is never to late to fine out about scams even if you do by a scam that looks to good to be true.

    82. Great detailed info. Thanks for sharing.
      I agree on that Paul should say strait what is it Herbalife and the rest to. If he not honest at the beginning,then what can you expect after. My other feeling is he gambling on the volume of people sign up and sell couple of other packages to peoples still hopping. All he will do before you can really find out not even $ 50.00 can you make of it any given month.
      Don’t get me wrong Herbalife MLM work they are out there for years, personally have not met any Herbalife Independent Distributors how was able to retire after he/she was in the Business.
      Not counting the founders,how make money on the top.
      Any way I’m in a MLM cost me less than $40.00/year and it is working. No I’m not making several thousands per month but at list it is a honest opportunity and the products are great qualities.
      I use it and happy with it.
      So why I was looking for something if what I do is good? Well, to get rich slowly.
      I know there are good decent programs out there just to find it is really hard. Unfortunately so many good MLM and other opportunity already twisted corrupted,by greedy “honest “ family guys.
      What is really going on now, “gurus” creating family oriented testimonies with kids and moms
      and also pay them to promote scams. This is the new way to get to you (our) harts.
      Thanks again and kip up the good works.

    83. I partnered with paul as an affiliate and just last night after generating $350.00 in referal traffic. I get home to check my balance and they zeroed it out and told me your site is now just for stats. I emailed them and got no response. SCAM SCAM SCAM. ALL THE WAY AROUND

    84. It is called a bait and switch. It is not 9.95 it will be like 40 they will charge you. If you throw ethics down the drain there is your way to make money sitting scamingly in front of your face. Do a bait and switch on people. Yes they will all be pissed but you will be rich. What gets me is how they got an A+ from the BBB it should be like F- they take you right to its site as well, totally mind blowing to me they would get an A+

      Ask yourselves questions always, I have yet to encounter another person that wants to see me wealthy (jealousy and greed) why would I want to share my wealth with you when I can have it all to myself and just victimize you so I can have more?

      Bait and switch is unethical but not illegal. and they will make it at least hard to get your money back. I used to be a phone sells rep. I know how it works. I was good and am kind of sad I was so good, because I screwed many good people. Who did not know any better. Yes I quite I found it unethical and wrong. But its not illegal unfortunately. It should be.

    85. Thank you so much ,I almost signed up but then thought no I will check this out,I have been caught before with herbalifes trick sales catch.
      God bless you heaps.

    86. Ok, I almost fell for it, I can’t imagine I was that dumb. The internet will
      provide opportunities but think of the millions of us that use ours daily.
      It just gives the scum a huge audience cheap. So he sells a CD that cost maybe .25 cents at the most due to the volume. Sets up a pay pal acct and make a professional video of his groupies. People are desperate but if your gosl is herbal life 10 bucks a pop to sucker even a of the fraction of the population would make you money. He made his money by suckering in folks at the carnival to see the three eyed fat lady. Don’t ever fall for work at home. Think of your own idea and set it uup. Then become Paul, I hope you dont or if you hjave a legitimate idea let me know.

    87. I did this like an idiot also. Not only did they sucker me into the 9.95 but also 199.95 for the second package and then on the second package yet again stated that I would need to pay more money monthly. I returned for a full refund.

    88. thanks for your comments people, because i was about to make the 9.95 payment for shipping and handling. I tried herbalife in the past and i do not think its what i would be interested in selling. He should come out clean and say what the product is beforehand. I’m also very skeptical about anyone who does not accept money orders.

    89. well, I ordered it today, read everything, I am a bit of a skeptic, so I am gonna test it out, R&D it out, if it works out, great, if not, shipping right back to Paul himself and getting my refund. I will update once I get going.

    90. hey Jenny,
      i am really encouraged by your response but what do i do in this instance coz i am really tired of srfing the net every time wasting resources without any future returns..

    91. I just got this email – but regarding a specific site and he said that he wants to buy it for $XXX – I said OK – so we shall see where this goes. I wonder if he will even reply back.

    92. I got an email from someone who said he was responding to a post of mine on craigslist. Asked me click on http://muxurl.de/post1408htm . I did that. Lots of claims without actually saying what it was about, then asked for my email etc. (didn’t they already have my email) and requested me to click on their demo.
      I’m a brand new computor user, was nervios that maybe my computer would blow up if I did that, so I went back to the received email and replied to the sender that I did not post anything on craaigslist and how did you get my email. An error msg came back that mail could not be sent because original sender did not exist.
      Went back to the http reread the claims and saw in the content “partener with paul.com” then googled partener with paul and here I am.
      The thing is I did go to craigslist (someone mentioned I might drum up business for my carpet cleaning co.)
      But I did not post anything. Just clicked on some items of interest. Has this guy highjacked craigslist for his nasty business?

    93. I am so glad I looked this up first before trying this. Its so wonderful that others can share their experiences. Sorry for those who waited too late. So many people trying to get paid at others expense. Thanks again for your blog on this.

    94. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for that article. I have been bombarded by online business scams for several years now. I hate it when I do job searchs in popular job sites like monster.com, craigslist, and the local paper then see a list of home business scams. Steve, you are awsome and I think you should start your own TV publication or TV show in order to keep the public informed of these scams. My own sister is with Herbalife and she left her medical career to do this type of business only to loose her home (but will never admit this was the cause). I did Amway for several years and lost lots of money and time. Never again.

    95. bought the 9.95 deal partners with paul after i got the package in the mail did some research found out it was herbalife , was dealing with some gal Jaclyn , i called her before my appointment time and said if i knew it was herbalife i wouldnt have wasted my time , theese deceitful people dont even have balls enough to tell you up front what this so get me rich program is all about , i will say though i have been involved in MLM marketing for a long time with a most respected company which is 39 yrs old and has never a complaint that was valid and within reason , do your homework and google anything or body you believe to be corupt

    96. I received a promotional mail too; I am looking for a job and posted an ad online and got a reply on this from a Jonah Hagen. I quickly research a bit and googled ‘partnerwithpaul’ and ‘scam’ and got a lot of hits. I didn’t know if this guy were trying to recruit others and were stuck in the same scam so i replied to his email and of course it bounced back with a delivery failure notification. I guess that is another good way to find out if it’s a scam or not? Send an email and if it bounces back you’ll know it’s a scam.

      And for all of you out there who are thinking of joining some online business: DON’T!!!!! That is if you don’t wanna give away your money and waste your time on making someone else rich on your ignorance

    97. I had this same thing happen to me and now I’m out like 10 bucks and my appointment is tomorrow at 3:00 but the guy isn’t Paul.. his name is Kevin Cuneo and I’m not sure what the hell it is about?

    98. Thanks a millon Steve i was about to sign up with this crazy thing. By reading your comment i avoided lots of frustration and anger. I’v been on the lookout for internet marketing home buisness for some time but as of now did not hear or seen anyone making money exept of course the ones who are selling these systems. We here fortune seekeers realy need a hawk eye like yourself cause most reviews are trick ones or written by the
      sellers themself or affiliates. Personnaly I don’t think that these socalled money making systems are desingned or suitable for the average web users because they need some kind of expérience or internet and computor training. NOW IF SOMEONE HAD MADE SOME REAL HONEST THE GOD MONEY WITH WHATEVER WACHT’MA CALLIT SYSTEM PLEASE STAND OUT AND WE WILL DO BUISNESS.

    99. This guy is pathetic, now he is asking people like me that are desperate for a job, and he found my add on Kijiji. Get a life jerkoff.

    100. Alexandra says:

      I posted my resume on Craigslist and Monster and received an email from “Paul” about only needing an hour of my time a week, but it could turn into more. He calls himself “a full time Internet entrepreneur looking for a few partners” and that I just need to fill out a questionaire.
      THANK YOU for this! I do really need a job and this “Paul” is just tacky!

    101. Damn I should have researched first before ordering the kit. I guess that’s what I get. My dumb butt thought it was legit just because it was on careerbuilder.com. I will be returning my kit once I get it.

    102. Paul Myers Paul_Myers@below2.letshitthesurf.info

      dateTue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:58 PM

      All I gotta say is this, ” Look at the return email address listed as details from your inbox and revealing the sender’s contact info. of the message.”

      I totally agree with everyone here, however, this Dude has been at this for awhile. The most comical point made about the “Kit” is ridiculous ramblings of the system. Hell, if ya want Herbal Life pills etc….anyone can buy vitamins at the local grocery store, etc…lol So obvious as a “Rip Off.”

      A friend of mine, Todd bought into the whole gimmick and anxiously awaited his starter kit. He was out of a job for several months. Guess what folks?? lol His first order of the kit never made it to his residential address after paying for it..so he gets a call from a supposed representative. He was offered to please accept an apology on their behalf for it getting lost (yeah right) and he asked for a remailing copy. “Oh sure Todd , we are sorry for the misplaced kit and this one is absolutely on the house, free .”
      He didn’t get the second replacement in the mail either. lol So, to show what sneaks they are…they recharged his credit card after he was convinced there would be no money coming out of his pocket twice.
      Again, look at the email address with this same OLE letter as described above….”Paul_Myers@below2.letshitthesurf.info ”
      Now if that email address is considered professional….gimme a break! lol Don’t fall for it…the signs are all there. I got my introduction letter-message today and it’s just laughable. SPAM ALERT Reported to Google.com also…..

    103. C.williams says:

      Thanks 4 all the comments o was one click away from ordering tha kit myself. Thank god for google.

    104. I followed the links and thought it was a great deal to not put in another dollar but the 9.95 for the shipping to start a online business. but in the end when some lady says she does not know who partnerswithpaul is and and asked for 199.00 for herbal life. i was like this is not what i joined up to do. and they would charge me anther 49.99 for the package i just receieved.

      i mailed that back and cost me 4.95 because i sent it priorty mail.

      Remember partnerswithpaul offered to give back the 9.95. i sent a email to that sight that said thanks for signing up with partnerswith paul. I explained about wanting my money back. They sent me another email saying what is my account number at partnerwithpaul and my email address. I have since recieved my 9.95 via paypal. you can too get your orginial money back for this sham too.

    105. this scam has been going on for years, looks just like the one Shawn Dahl & his family started in CAnada. ( They are OBS ) They make tons of $ selling you booklets, advertising ( their co-op ) and the package – used to be called a “decision package” – but never mentions HL.
      Watch out – they have now reached the top levels of HL – are greedy people.

    106. partner with paul is stupid. when i recieved the package, i thought it was alright but noticed that they didn’t advertise the products name in the CD VIDEO one… they completely BLOCKED it out and let the nutrition info side be shown. NOT only that, they just kept talking about the business crap on the radio.. which is even more stupid. there’s no such KIT to get started right away. its ridiculous and i am stupid to have fell for it. DO NOT JOIN PARTNER WITH PAUL – ITS A SCAM N FAKE. MY COACH WAS Thomas Parsons and my appt is today – but I will tell him I am not stupid enough to go through with everything. he can call me, and he can email me etc. but HELL NO HE IS NOT TAKING ANYMORE MONEY FROM ME. i returned the stupid useless package today, got it yesterday. did my research when it came in and that was when i found out it was a freaking scam because i kept wondering WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ONLINE BUSINESS ABOUT AND WHY THE HELL AREN’T THEY MENTIONING IT IN THE FREAKING CD’S. anyway. —— DONT JOIN ONLINE BUSINESS SYSTEM, THE TRUE LINK: http://www.theobspack.com

      REALITY CHECK: THERE IS NO SUCH THING CALLED “EASY MONEY WORKING AT HOME.” If you need money, get off your ass n go work at a job.

    107. Hi There

      Does anyone know if this website is a scam?


    108. Anna, I wouldn’t try that. You can Google keynetics BC that is their main company. But I highly doubt you will get paid. It sounds like a scam.


      It says that they wanna do the transaction through ebay motor protection program which is BULL.. the only way u can gt ebay protection is through ebays actual site!!! i thought tht it sounded good so we did the transaction but later found out that it wasnt ebay sending the messages to me even though it said ebay n my inbox.
      My fiance and I were on craiglist and found an “UNBEATABLE” deal…supposibly… it was a 2004 nissan maxima car with 45,000 miles on it and was very nice looked brand-new. The price was $2,400 and a guy named john martens with an email account under marutijohn@gmail.com. we emailed him and exchanged many emails to get details and he gave us a Paul Blakes name and address to send the money to bc the fake ebay said tht they do vehicle transaction with third party (for trust issues) an you would have 5 days after u gt the car to test an drive an inspect the car. We were very suspicious and even metioned that we thought it could be a scam and the guy said he was selling the car because of recent medical problems and that he needed the money immediately. an he even said dont offend him like he was really sick or sumthin. DONT EVER DEAL WITH PPL WITH ANY KIND OF ISSUES LIKE THIS… He said Paul Blake was an eBay agent and would be a third party in the car but of couse i was recieving emails from ebay so i thought…. an they said it was alright to continue the transaction…. so we did an even said it was ok to do money transfer like western union or moneygram…NEVER NEVER use these things to do any kind of transaction with anyone… then after i sent the money there was a problem with shipping at massachusetes about some customs flag now this threw a big red flag up i might not know everything there is to know but ik that the only reason customs gets involved is through international reasons so i did research about this bc he was wanting another 1500 to continue the transaction an said it wuld b refunded by ebay bc it was some kind of law bc of military civilian or sumthin like tht… an tht the DMV wuld refund when i register the car.. also other names included n these emails were Paul Blake, John Martens, Jake Clyse.. an the ebay support messages was a david…. they got me for 2400 dont let them get u!!!!!

    110. Pwp is 2 businesses
      Either join herbalife, or,
      Click affiliates at the bottom and do what Paul is doing!
      Conning people to join herbalife! That’s all there is to it!

    111. wow im so glad i stumbled onto this site i was just about to go to step 2 and pay the money to join im a mum of 6 kids and desperate to earn a good honest wage but still spent time with my kids i was hopeful that this was it for me it did sound good but i cant afford to be scammed or have my time wasted with stupid fake make money online scams.thankyou for sites like these.back to the drawing board for me i guess.

    112. I got a response from one of his affiliates in regards to a “looking for a job” ad I had posted on craigslist. My response to him was that if they gave me a $5k sign on bonus, I would render them my services. I had posted in my ad not to contact me with these types of offers.

    113. Wow… dodged THAT bullet! Thanks everyone; I was sent an e-mail to go there and it sounded strange and unrealistic to receive a ton of money without contributing even a penny.

    114. I was reading all the post. I’m glad I didn’t sign up or anything. Thanks all for your comment. Very interesting. I did contact PartnerwithPaul with my email message. They never did respond to my message from my email when I ask them question. They weren’t very cooperative. Until I found out by reading all the comment on this post. You are all right. Most website want you to buy their products just help to make money. I feel it is a rip off and you get nothing. There is no phone number listed to call and no one to contact if I have any questions. Sounds like it is rip off and just want you to pay more and more money than you receive any profit.

      Thanks all for your information. Please let me know if there is any legit work at home…I know it is hard because there is lot of scam go on around and hackers.

      Lot of people don’t have job right now because of bad economic…I hope Americans can help each other to provide jobs especially work at home without paying anything pennies upfront. I rather to work for free and get paid just like the real world jobs. Let me know what you guys come up with.


    115. Well I’m sure glad I did not fall for that one…but here is a good question for all of you guy’s…Anybody found a good/great work at home online company??? Please let me know if you have so maybe I can start making money without being scammed! Thanks for all the feedback.

    116. Thank you for the information. I, too, am looking for a way to work at home as my health won’t allow me to work in my career field any longer. I have spent 2 weeks looking at scam after scam. I’m tired to say the least. I’m an honest person wanting to make an honest living. I can’t give up, and I refuse to take welfare. Wish me luck. On another note: don’t you people ever read your comments before you send them? All of the typing errors are rediculous.

    117. How do you return it back and get a refund? Please let me know ASAP! Thank you!


    119. Angry Customer says:

      It is a SCAM in deed, many complaints to the Better Business Bureau already against Partner With Paul LLC.

      Let me add this .. when you sign-up (9.95 for the 14-day trial) they will still charge 39.95 after the 14-day trial period and then impossible to reach anyone by email or phone.

      Anyone interested in this program please read all you can about this to be aware of the true nature of this scam, don’t waste your time and money.

    120. Well, todays date is 01/13/2013 and the crooks are going strong , almost got me too, I was checking out another site that sent paul’s ripoff to one of my email accounts but I’m sorry and glad to say that I saw the scam by the time the clock started ticking lol…
      The other work at home that I’m pretty sure is a scam on a larger scale that sent the email is called project payday where you are required to sign up for trial accounts thru ifw forums called IFW’s incentivised freebee websites offering prizes and cash from othet supposed members of the forums for earning points for them lol and you are to try the products then cancell before the trial period so watch out for em,,,,,

    121. TY all for doing the research that partner with Paul is a Scam !!
      I always google anything like that , that sounds to good to be true.


    123. Thanks for saving me 10 bucks and a bunch of grief :).

      If there’s one thing in learning about these sites, its that none are legit.

      If there really ARE legit ones out there, there doing a good job of hiding.

    124. Thanks for the heads-up. No I won’t be wasting my money.
      Interesting switch was that I was reviewing a capture page of Mike Hobbs for EZMoney Project/GVO when I clicked away and the Partner with Paul crap came up. Mikes main offer is for GVO/Pure Leverage with Empower Network on the back-end so why is he so keen on P with P in his funnel?

    125. I thought this was ligit the way he went on about making money, not much at first but more each month. He made the mistake with me that he will make more money if I sign up, RED FLAG there. I am not signing nor will I send him money so he gets rich on those of us that want to really work from home for real and make money.

    126. Partner with paul.com is scam he said in website leave the inquiry he will reply in 24 hours but not one answered and he took my money already from account ,i think he is cheating even outside country also…he is cheating globally we need to stop him before it your turn..

      so friends let do something and use your wisdom and power to kick out these moneymaker because every one of us has hard earning money so don’t let it go in second by typing your card online ..just spread this knowledge to all your friends so you can save some one .

    127. This sounds like ‘Paul Birdsall’ of ZibZoom infamy and a MLM line-raider who signs up in several new MLM’s every week and then gets his followers who upgrade in his first MLM to join under him along with other mutineers fixing it so they take tuns being first uder him and he makes a lot of money, and a few of his Leaders’ do too. They’ve been doing this for a dozen years and that’s why he won’t give his Last name. Everybody knows an Infamous name will only take you so far.

    128. Whoa, this scam cat’s been at it for a long time. I’ve just started in Paid Surveys (feeling scammed) and that’s how I came across this Paul Myers. At the bottom of his scam page is a picture of him with his wife and two kids. Is it him? Who knows.

      I agree with you Bhooshan, the people should take him out because it doesn’t look like any federallies are shutting him down.

      I’m glad I googled his name.

    129. I am just finding out now. Paul sent me this video from a guy by the name of Aaron Ward. Aaron seems very real guy who claims to be an ex teacher. He is asking you to join his cash machine 2.0 at a low $49. Apparently you can make 50 thousand in a month. You know what they say if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. It is only today that I decided to check out to see if this was a scam and boy am I glad that I did. Paul got me before when I was searching on a job network I decided to check out the work at home opportunities and there was Paul. I spent the $9.95 for the booklet and DVD. This company was called Vemma and GPS Office was the so called training company that helped you to make money. Pretty soon I realized that this GPS co. was out to rook me. I told them I signed up to make money not to spend it. These guys wanted so much money from me to get up and running that I finally had to opt out. I thought that maybe there was something wrong with me however I see that I am not alone. Shame on you Paul or whatever your name is.

    130. The only way to make money at home is to find a reputable company that does not CHARGE anything to work for them. I find ads that have that much information on it and all those claims are all a farce. If it so good why keep deluding folks with more info that is the same crap over and over again. Too much talk. it is all bunk.

      Thank for the info about Herbalife. YEEGADS i almost asked for the kit.

    131. Julia Andrews says:

      Can you believe this guy has another campaign! Paul Myers. Nothing
      about the product name. It’s the same ad he’s used over and over.

      How can we stop him?

    132. William Tyler says:

      I have been scammed a couple of times and I have learnt a lot from all these BS work at home sites. None of them works if they ask you for money. So my friends, there is nothing in this world as easy money. Go and find yourself a job. And this guy Paul, omg,don’t get conned by him.

    133. I started to ‘bite’ at first, but something kept nagging at me about this website. I am glad that I have read these reviews and decided not to purchase this Partner With Paul gimmick. LOL!!! Even Reverend Ike ran a better scam than that and he made millions before he went to do his time!! I am glad that I read these articles from the people who really know the truth. I don’t have $9.99 the throw away for nobody with gas being as high as it is!!

    134. This offer hit my inbox today. I google everything these days. I have investigated literally dozens of methods of working from home using the Internet. I looked at everything from Affiliate Marketing to taking Surveys at Home. I have invested hours of my time and even some money. The only income I have made is from being a Mystery Shopper. There are numerous companies who hire mystery shoppers, product demonstrators and field auditors. Each one has a different system and you will need to invest some time learning what the company wants from you. But once you have done one assignment for a particular company, the next one is much easier. I have received checks in the mail paying me for doing things that I would have mostly done anyway (oil change, eating out, etc). I will be ramping up these activities in the months to come in order to generate the $300 a month that stands between my current income and a comfortable income. You do NOT need to pay for a site to send you opportunities. All those sites do is give you the company name of the folks who actually will be contracting with you and tell you to go register directly with them. You can find these companies yourself by searching for them on the Internet and get started for no money. I will be writing an article about this opportunity when I have more experience under my belt. So far, I have earned $85 for completing 2 assignments.

    135. I did not do partner with paul but I did get roped into Vemma through Global pro systems with the SAME sales tactics. They make you buy the 9.95 “business starter kit” that is worthless and you also get charged 39.95 for if you don’t send it back, if you get into the business there is A LOT more to pay for. Vemma is similar to Herbalife they are in the “health and wellness” industry. They also have Anthony Powell in Vemma who came from Herbalife go figure. Anyways, don’t do it.

    136. I just received an email from a familiar name that I remembered from around the beginning of 2012. Checked out his email and even though it sounded better than his crap from over a year ago, I knew it was the same guy. Googled and it was Herbalife–one of the biggest scams around.
      As mentioned by several others,they do not tell you who they are–till you waste your money-$9.99–for their “great info package”. What a crock–it is nothing but an ad for the company. I was so mad, I wanted to send it back, but it would cost almost what I already paid. It belongs in the trash/recycle bin.
      ANYTHING from Paul seems to lead to Herbalife–tell everyone you know–it is a deceiving rip-off.
      Also–and this was more maddening than the package–when someone finally called{it took several changes in time} when they said who the company is, and I just wanted to hang up,their attitude just changed to rude!!
      Like others have said–why don’t they just tell us who they are!!! They would not make money, that’s why!!


    137. I must say that I was shocked to find the negative about Herbalife. Paul okay. I am an Herbalife member and can say that it is work but you do make money from it. My husband used to work in construction and I was a Job Coach for a state funded agency. In 2009 I started my Herbalife business and in 2010 I was laid off from the state funded agency. My husband has not done anything but the Herbalife business since 2010 and I have not either. We make enough to pay for everything that we need. No it is not going to work for the lazy person that wants cash to fill their bank accounts. You have to work for it. The work I do is fun and helps others. I have seen so many great things happen to people because of the product.

    138. Problem here is not that Paul doesn’t make money and not that Herbalife doesn’t work. The problem is that people going to this site are usually looking for how to make money online… on the Internet (which there are ways) and so they feel lied to or scammed because Hearbalife is more of a legwork, grind type of business. Not all people who want to work online are lazy but I’d bet they are tired after working a long hard days work at there J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) and want a break with a business that doesn’t require breaking your back after breaking your back for 8hrs a day at your first job. Partner With Paul is misleading and people don’t like that. It doesn’t matter if Amway was on the other side or Body by Vi. people weren’t looking for a business model in the MLM realm.

    139. Thank you so much! Thank God I googled this partners with Paul thing before I too any further action. Sigh of relieve!
      I found it very fishy how no website I was directed to and how it didn’t matter how much I looked it would not tell me what I would be doing. It was too good to be true, which also set a red flag for me.
      I am very sorry to those who have lost money to this scam :( I hope these people pay one day, and I hope you one day gain back what you have lost in one way or another.
      God bless.

    140. auchomage says:

      Thank you everyone for posting their experiences. This has saved me some unwanted hassle, not to mention a potential loss of money and time. Miguel’s message, struck very close to home with me. Thanks again.

    141. It always saddens me that companies will do unto others BEFORE they do unto them.

      I’ve been in network marketing for over 6 years and I commend this article for the points they’ve brought up. One I’d like to ad is that if one is searching for a home business, one should not have to pay for the information, it should be provided free of charge!

      When I joined the company I’m with, I got to see everything first at no cost, pressure or risk to me so that after evaluating everything I could decide if this was for me or not. Doesn’t that make more sense?

      Also, I have learned that having a turn key system is really important, something you can teach others to do. If there is no system, guidance or training, how do you expect to succeed without paying for more help?

      Always do your research first before committing to anything, even if it is only $10.00…..and if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it!

      Cheers all, hope you find something that works for you :)

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