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	<title>Comments on: Angela Penbrook? Angel Stevens? A Scam by Any Other Name&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Diane Claver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Claver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...we have a 2005 Nissan Titan listed on Craigslist and got a text from  the very same Mikelkay@gmail.com.  Same situation with the &quot;pick up agent&quot;, and offering to buy the truck sight unseen, &quot;as soon as the payment clears&quot;,  with no price negotiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;we have a 2005 Nissan Titan listed on Craigslist and got a text from  the very same <a href="mailto:Mikelkay@gmail.com">Mikelkay@gmail.com</a>.  Same situation with the &#8220;pick up agent&#8221;, and offering to buy the truck sight unseen, &#8220;as soon as the payment clears&#8221;,  with no price negotiation.</p>
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		<title>By: BEWARE OF Mikel Kay SCAMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BEWARE OF Mikel Kay SCAMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were trying to sell our car in Hawaii and only 15minutes after advertising it on Craigslist, we received the same email from Mikelkay@gmail.com  

He said he would get his agent to pick the vehicle up from us as soon as the money cleared into our account. He wanted to pay by paypal again and wanted to know our paypal email address. We thought it was dodgy as soon as he offered to buy the car without even wanting to see it!  It just didn&#039;t make sense that someone would take our word for it that it was in good condition, without even seeing it, esp on a small island where no-one&#039;s that far away to drive to! Then when he mentioned his &quot;agent&quot; picking it up it sounded even dodgier....

I suspect it&#039;s either something to do with money laundering...whereby he pays you the money and then asks you to forward it to someone else or it bounces back again out of your account after he has already picked your vehicle up....as soon as I told my friend someone had offered to buy it off us, before I even had chance to tell her anything about it, she said &quot;if they offer to get someone to pick the car up as soon as the money goes into your account it&#039;s a scam!&quot;....and apparently it&#039;s pretty common over here.

It&#039;s a shame we don&#039;t know how to scam the scammer....give them a piece of their own medicine for once!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were trying to sell our car in Hawaii and only 15minutes after advertising it on Craigslist, we received the same email from <a href="mailto:Mikelkay@gmail.com">Mikelkay@gmail.com</a>  </p>
<p>He said he would get his agent to pick the vehicle up from us as soon as the money cleared into our account. He wanted to pay by paypal again and wanted to know our paypal email address. We thought it was dodgy as soon as he offered to buy the car without even wanting to see it!  It just didn&#8217;t make sense that someone would take our word for it that it was in good condition, without even seeing it, esp on a small island where no-one&#8217;s that far away to drive to! Then when he mentioned his &#8220;agent&#8221; picking it up it sounded even dodgier&#8230;.</p>
<p>I suspect it&#8217;s either something to do with money laundering&#8230;whereby he pays you the money and then asks you to forward it to someone else or it bounces back again out of your account after he has already picked your vehicle up&#8230;.as soon as I told my friend someone had offered to buy it off us, before I even had chance to tell her anything about it, she said &#8220;if they offer to get someone to pick the car up as soon as the money goes into your account it&#8217;s a scam!&#8221;&#8230;.and apparently it&#8217;s pretty common over here.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame we don&#8217;t know how to scam the scammer&#8230;.give them a piece of their own medicine for once!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymus</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 04:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Alan Morse, i had the same scam by same guy in Hawaii... paypal and a mysterious agent definetly raises an eyebrow...

I am currently trying to sell my car in Hong Kong, I got contacted by a Micheal Lowe who agreed to the price and wanted to pay me by PayPal, which I thought was a bit odd. He then asked me to transfer HK$3,500 by Western Union to his “agent” who would collect the car as Micheal himself was currently “at sea”. I told him that I would only transfer money to his agent AFTER the funds had cleared into my bank account and that was the last I heard from him. He’s clearly got some kind of scam going with stolen credit cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Alan Morse, i had the same scam by same guy in Hawaii&#8230; paypal and a mysterious agent definetly raises an eyebrow&#8230;</p>
<p>I am currently trying to sell my car in Hong Kong, I got contacted by a Micheal Lowe who agreed to the price and wanted to pay me by PayPal, which I thought was a bit odd. He then asked me to transfer HK$3,500 by Western Union to his “agent” who would collect the car as Micheal himself was currently “at sea”. I told him that I would only transfer money to his agent AFTER the funds had cleared into my bank account and that was the last I heard from him. He’s clearly got some kind of scam going with stolen credit cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Morse Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Morse Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 08:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, one more bit of info, he is emailing from mikelkay@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, one more bit of info, he is emailing from <a href="mailto:mikelkay@gmail.com">mikelkay@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Morse Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Morse Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 08:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently trying to sell my car in Hong Kong, I got contacted by a Micheal Lowe who agreed to the price and wanted to pay me by PayPal, which I thought was a bit odd.  He then asked me to transfer HK$3,500 by Western Union to his &quot;agent&quot; who would collect the car as Micheal himself was currently &quot;at sea&quot;.  I told him that I would only transfer money to his agent AFTER the funds had cleared into my bank account and that was the last I heard from him.  He&#039;s clearly got some kind of scam going with stolen credit cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently trying to sell my car in Hong Kong, I got contacted by a Micheal Lowe who agreed to the price and wanted to pay me by PayPal, which I thought was a bit odd.  He then asked me to transfer HK$3,500 by Western Union to his &#8220;agent&#8221; who would collect the car as Micheal himself was currently &#8220;at sea&#8221;.  I told him that I would only transfer money to his agent AFTER the funds had cleared into my bank account and that was the last I heard from him.  He&#8217;s clearly got some kind of scam going with stolen credit cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was desperate and willing to try this, and I can confirm it IS a scam.  Fortunately, I kept a paper trail. . . I tracked every phone call I made, every email I sent, who I spoke to (and at what time and for how long, etc.)  They stalled me for about 3 months on the promised refund until I advised them of the records I had kept, and of my willingness to get an attorney involved.  I imagine I&#039;m one of onlyl a handful of people ever to get the promised refund!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was desperate and willing to try this, and I can confirm it IS a scam.  Fortunately, I kept a paper trail. . . I tracked every phone call I made, every email I sent, who I spoke to (and at what time and for how long, etc.)  They stalled me for about 3 months on the promised refund until I advised them of the records I had kept, and of my willingness to get an attorney involved.  I imagine I&#8217;m one of onlyl a handful of people ever to get the promised refund!</p>
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		<title>By: edmond dantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>edmond dantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBB is just a middle man between the consumer and company which is all they are and nothing more, which means all they can do is post an unsatisfactory report at best.

Thank you so very much for this information. Man, I was about to become the latest sucker in this operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBB is just a middle man between the consumer and company which is all they are and nothing more, which means all they can do is post an unsatisfactory report at best.</p>
<p>Thank you so very much for this information. Man, I was about to become the latest sucker in this operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony G ---------</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony G ---------</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 00:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello readers:

i seen all the postings and had to write everyone, i know these guys that are doing these scams, and i have proof that it is for sure Micheal Brooks and Kali Ashford (brooks now), her is a pic of her and a pic of micheal is on her myspace http://www.naymz.com/kali_ashford_502723 and www.facebook.com/kali.brooks, they have a few guys that work for them, they build a website and collect money and them move on to the next, i did contact the FBI with this info and they did already have a file on him, the SA that is working on the case asked detailed things about him, like size skin color and what kali looked like, i also told them they have a kid and also the overseas places he goes (since i have been with him on several trips) this guy has made a good life for himself on nothing but ripping people off, any one looking for help with this contact the FBI and look into the case number, last i talked to them they had more then 20 people in the complaint and gave great details as to who he is, were his mother is, and were his father is, last i knew the Newport Beach  address JJ put down was in that report as well, i know they are building a case so when they grab him its for life, so rest easy and know hes going down soon.

Also beware there are a few post here, that am sure is him, say that the guys name is different, dont belive that post, the name involved to list a few are: Micheal brooks, kali ashford now kali brooks and micheal lowe, theses three people are the core of this scam and will be moving on to the next soon, &quot;angela Penbrook is a spin off name Micheal came up with, Anna a employee took a payoff so he can use her name, penbrook is a mix of micheals last name and a pin thrown at micheal when he was on the phone getting the DBA set.... it seems like a joke but i was there when i happen.

i feel so bad i was even around people who could do this to people, and anything i can do to help i will, i have all there personal cell numbers and pics of them, also all the website&#039;s he has made

P.s make you famous consulting is another company he owed, also he has a credit card processing firm, that&#039;s how he get the ability to process credit cards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello readers:</p>
<p>i seen all the postings and had to write everyone, i know these guys that are doing these scams, and i have proof that it is for sure Micheal Brooks and Kali Ashford (brooks now), her is a pic of her and a pic of micheal is on her myspace <a href="http://www.naymz.com/kali_ashford_502723" rel="nofollow">http://www.naymz.com/kali_ashford_502723</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/kali.brooks" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/kali.brooks</a>, they have a few guys that work for them, they build a website and collect money and them move on to the next, i did contact the FBI with this info and they did already have a file on him, the SA that is working on the case asked detailed things about him, like size skin color and what kali looked like, i also told them they have a kid and also the overseas places he goes (since i have been with him on several trips) this guy has made a good life for himself on nothing but ripping people off, any one looking for help with this contact the FBI and look into the case number, last i talked to them they had more then 20 people in the complaint and gave great details as to who he is, were his mother is, and were his father is, last i knew the Newport Beach  address JJ put down was in that report as well, i know they are building a case so when they grab him its for life, so rest easy and know hes going down soon.</p>
<p>Also beware there are a few post here, that am sure is him, say that the guys name is different, dont belive that post, the name involved to list a few are: Micheal brooks, kali ashford now kali brooks and micheal lowe, theses three people are the core of this scam and will be moving on to the next soon, &#8220;angela Penbrook is a spin off name Micheal came up with, Anna a employee took a payoff so he can use her name, penbrook is a mix of micheals last name and a pin thrown at micheal when he was on the phone getting the DBA set&#8230;. it seems like a joke but i was there when i happen.</p>
<p>i feel so bad i was even around people who could do this to people, and anything i can do to help i will, i have all there personal cell numbers and pics of them, also all the website&#8217;s he has made</p>
<p>P.s make you famous consulting is another company he owed, also he has a credit card processing firm, that&#8217;s how he get the ability to process credit cards</p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this old e-mail in my file cabinet re: Angela Penbrook dated 3/28/08. I decided to go to the website and I was so SHOCKED to see soooooo many people scammed by this Cunt! Unreal! Why does the BBB and FTC, etc. are still not doing anything? This Country has gone from a Democracy to FACISM.....It&#039;s where the Corporations run the Conservative Media, Run and pay for Political Elections, especially since the Supreme Court has recently labeled a Corporation a living, breathing  &quot;person&quot;, not an Entity! So I believe that small &amp; large companies will now be exempt from any &quot;Investigations&quot; by the FTC!!!! Look what happened to the Private Iraqi Security Company BLACKWATER - They are Immune from Prosecution even though they killed Innocent Iraqi Civilians, especially Women &amp; Children! They are free and have regrouped, and are renamed another company to do as they please!

Yes.......FACISM is alive &amp; well in America - It did not die when Benito Mussolini was Dictator of Italy during World War II!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this old e-mail in my file cabinet re: Angela Penbrook dated 3/28/08. I decided to go to the website and I was so SHOCKED to see soooooo many people scammed by this Cunt! Unreal! Why does the BBB and FTC, etc. are still not doing anything? This Country has gone from a Democracy to FACISM&#8230;..It&#8217;s where the Corporations run the Conservative Media, Run and pay for Political Elections, especially since the Supreme Court has recently labeled a Corporation a living, breathing  &#8220;person&#8221;, not an Entity! So I believe that small &amp; large companies will now be exempt from any &#8220;Investigations&#8221; by the FTC!!!! Look what happened to the Private Iraqi Security Company BLACKWATER &#8211; They are Immune from Prosecution even though they killed Innocent Iraqi Civilians, especially Women &amp; Children! They are free and have regrouped, and are renamed another company to do as they please!</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;&#8230;.FACISM is alive &amp; well in America &#8211; It did not die when Benito Mussolini was Dictator of Italy during World War II!</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez it&#039;s still happening and only now the FTC has the power to stop them, the CA Attorney Generals Office PIU Dept. sent Angela Penbrook/Angel Stevens companies a letter back in 2008 and it was returned undeliverable so they sent me a letter back stating that since their letter was undeliverable they couldn&#039;t go after this business&#039;s/people in charge. Even though the BBB, 20/20 had the names of the people in charge with numerous peoples complaints and no county/city records clerks office has any of their business&#039;s registered to do business at the address&#039;s on their websites listed as their headquarters. It seems they now have many new company names doing the same thing to this day with numerous complaints starting against these new company names. The LABBB has given the CA Attorney Generals Office these hundreds of complaints too and we have also notified the CA Sect. of State several times and they act like it&#039;s no big deal, even 20/20 has called these agencies to be told they never heard of these companies or are aware of any consumer complaints. When all they have to do is enter their names on any websearch and up pops how many websites with hundreds of complaints going back to 2002 I believe to this day. So I hope finally something gets done to these people, because 20/20 said the feds were checking into these people back when their story aired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez it&#8217;s still happening and only now the FTC has the power to stop them, the CA Attorney Generals Office PIU Dept. sent Angela Penbrook/Angel Stevens companies a letter back in 2008 and it was returned undeliverable so they sent me a letter back stating that since their letter was undeliverable they couldn&#8217;t go after this business&#8217;s/people in charge. Even though the BBB, 20/20 had the names of the people in charge with numerous peoples complaints and no county/city records clerks office has any of their business&#8217;s registered to do business at the address&#8217;s on their websites listed as their headquarters. It seems they now have many new company names doing the same thing to this day with numerous complaints starting against these new company names. The LABBB has given the CA Attorney Generals Office these hundreds of complaints too and we have also notified the CA Sect. of State several times and they act like it&#8217;s no big deal, even 20/20 has called these agencies to be told they never heard of these companies or are aware of any consumer complaints. When all they have to do is enter their names on any websearch and up pops how many websites with hundreds of complaints going back to 2002 I believe to this day. So I hope finally something gets done to these people, because 20/20 said the feds were checking into these people back when their story aired.</p>
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