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I get at least 5-10 e-mails a day from Angela Penbrook, this seems like it would be nice, if only it wasn’t a scam……….you must read, read, read on these programs………..they are all scams.

I paid my $197 this morning but I can’t even log on. First time anyone ever explained exactly (seemingly) what I would be doing before they asked for payment. I called the helpdesk number and did speak with a person who read a script saying the web page was down temporarily. Next time she (same person) says to just keep trying periodly; there are technical problems. And there are no instructions as to how to get my money back. “3 months free trial”. All the emails seem to be system generated. So far, five hours – 0 dollars.

Only naive people can trust Angela Penbrook.

Hi,

Thanks to google that i got to know about scam of Angela Penbrook. Else i was just about to signup with the program. But since i have heard a lot about online fraud cases so i thought just give a try on google about this lady.

Thanks everyone.

I am so glad that I googled
Angela Penbrook I was just about to purchase her program when that if it sounds to good to be true then it is thing went off in my head. Thank you for the information. Someone should shut her down.

I fell for this,too,but I don’t know if my $197 was processed;I can’t find a record of it on my CC acct.,even tough I know I used that card.I went back a year,month,etc.and no record of the transaction.Maybe they didn’t take it after all.Maybe they blanked it out somehow so I couldn’t get a refund.In any case,she is a fraud and I hope you or somebody nails her to a cross with no salvation!An expensive lesson learned!

I too have the same situation. I have called and called and called, then i said you know what annoys me about these companies is that when you call you get her crappy voice and then press 1 for technical difficulties, press 2 for accounting or just stay on the line and a rep will get to you. Well everyone press “0″ it hooks you right in to them. They cant even speak english!!!! I feel like I’m speaking to a foreign language person who asked for my e-mail address, and my name but not the last 4 digits of the credit card. But i called twice and pressed “0″ and got someone different and the gave me the same exact confirmation number twice with 2 different people- so lets just hope this works. Hope we’re not all SUCKERS to this B*^*&^*&^!!!!!

I fell for this too. I really don’t know why because I am usually very leary of things like this. I am a stay at home mom of 2 boys, 2yrs old and a 7 month old. My husband works hard and I thought I would try to generate a little more income for us. Boy was I stupid!! With a capital S. All I managed to do was throw money out the window. I have tried several times to contact someone about getting my money back and like the rest of you who have tried, with no luck. As I read through the replys here I see that no has mentioned processrebatecenter.com. I believe these are the same scammers?? Owned by Angela Penbrook. They are the ones who scammed me. Anyway I guess my mistake will help someone else to not make the same mistake. thanks

Hi everyone, it’s Patricia from March 19th, i got an email today from noreply@makemyincomeathome.com stating that my refund has been succesfully processed and i should see it in my account in 5-7 bussiness day. Hope i’ll get this money soon, i work too hard for it. bye now. I’ll let you know what happen.

I called the same number that Patricia did(866-885-8126)and spoke to a live representative who said that I should receive my refund within 5 to 7 days,and to check my account then to make sure it went through.I notified my credit card company also.They said if they don’t make good on the refund,call back and they will activate a dispute on the charge.So,like Patricia,we’ll wait and see.I’ll let you what happens next.

HEY EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN SCAMMED FOR THIS BI^%$!!! PLEASE SEND ME A E-MAIL AND I CAN FORWARD A LINK TO EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN HAVING HER EXPOSED- POSSIBLY ON TELEVISION. I SENT A LETTER TO RIP-OFF.COM AND THEY REPSONDED BACK ASAP. IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH COMPLAINTS IN WE CAN TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL. THEY TELL ME THAT THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU DOESNT REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THESE SCAMMERS, BUT ITS BETTER TO EXPOSE THEM SO WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH COMPLAINTS SO THEY CAN LOOK INTO IT.

THANKS- DONT FORGET TO SEND ME A E-MAIL WITH YOUR E-MAIL BACK SO I CAN FORWARD THE LINK AND LETTER.

Thank you, thank you! I think that I was skeptical from the start or I wouldn’t have done more research before sending in my $197. You confirmed my suspicions and saved me from spending the money! I was never sent emails from these companies, I saw the ads on CareerBuilder.com. Unfortunately, the placement of the ads at that site lend legitimacy to the scam, does CareerBuilder know anything about it?
Thank you, again!

Stephanie, I don’t know if CareerBuilder knows. But you should bring it to their attention. Chipping away at her advertisers and affiliates is one way to bring “Angela Penbrook” down.

I am so glad and feel very fortunate that I investigated a bit and read the information on this website prior to even thinking about sending this fraudulent individual any money or even acknowledging her presense with even an email.

It is time honest people begin to take care of ourselves and our kind. The scam people in the world need to realize they are not powerful.

Like Patricia,I called the 866 # for my refund,spoke with a foreigner who spoke broken English,and said my refund should be posted in 4to7 days.Unlike Patricia,I was not given a confirmation number,but my CC company knows about this,and will dispute the charge if no refund is issued within that timeframe.

Wow! Thanks to everyone, but especially Joe, for this website and candidness. You saved me!

I too was ripped off $197.00 and have not been able to get a refund. I have tried every phone number I can find for Angela Penbrook company and myrebateprocessor.com and only get put on hold or cut off.

I have filed a complaint with this website that helps internet fraud. Everyone should file a complaint with them. The website is https://complaint.ic3.gov

I just wanted to say to you all GREAT site!!! Now about miss Penbrook or whom ever she is….my ex called me up all excited about this email she received from Ms.penbrook.I had her forward it to me(due to she knows i can smell bs),and of course this email was full of BS!!!
I did my research(starting with the BBB)and googled her…you all are the top review site on a google search for her.
I told my ex to remeber there are alot of ways to make money on the net with little or no money needed.I have a clickbank account,and i make a little money from it.The most important thing to remember is YOU HAVE TO PUT IN EFFORT TO SOMETHING TO MAKE MONEY!!! Your not going to get rich quick from anything unless your the scammer folks. I am 38 and a business man,the best i have ever done was 50,000 in 4 months with little effort,and guess what,it wasnt a business i did online.
There is good money to be made everywhere but you must do your research on the business your wanting to do.
If you want to process rebates i am sure there is a legite way to do it without having to pay for the pleasure of making good money.I may research this futher for my ex and if i find an avenue for this i will let you all know here on Joes site(or let them tell you all).
Anyway,Joe good job guys,way to lookout for your fellow humans.Your site is now in my favorites.

THIS MESSAGE IS FOR KEISHA;

I DID THE SAME THING- I ALSO TOOK DOWN ALL OF THE 1-800 NUMBERS SHE IS ASSOCIATING WITH HER SITE AND I AM CALLING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT SHE IS PROBABLY POSTING THEM ILLEGALLY!!!! GOOD LUCK… I AM IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A REFUND OR SO THEY SAY. I HAVE TO WAIT 5-7 DAYS, AND IT’S ONLY BEEN 5 TODAY. SO LETS SEE IN 3 MORE DAYS AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THEY DID THE REFUND. THEY ALSO SENT ME A REFUND CONFIRMATION E-MAIL WITH ALL MY INFO ON IT. HAVE YOU TRIED E-MAIL TO HER OR ALL OF HER 1-800 NUMBERS? I HAD PRETTY GOOD LUCK WITH THE NUMBERS- WHEN THE MESSAGE CAME ON OF HER ANNOYING VOICE I KEPT PRESSING “0″ AND THEN I WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GET CONNECTED TO SOMEONE. ALL 4 TIMES I DID THIS I GOT SOMEONE- SO GOOD LUCK!

Well just so you all know I DID NOT fall for this scam…BUT I have been a victim of scams in the past. Last year I probably lost $1k investing in a scam so when I saw this one I googled it first. Which is my suggestion to ANYONE WHO THINKS A COMPANY IS A SCAM — GOOGLE IT FIRST ! I also called them acting as if I had purchased it and said I wanted a refund (even though I didn’t) just to see what they would say. You know they even gave me a refund confirmation #…..and Im sitting there thinking ? where are they getting this info from so they might just be taking notes of people calling in case you call back…who knows but I got the same guy the three times I called when he hung up I was trying to speak to a supervisor or manager and they wouldn’t let me. AND I could have sworn I heard a TV in the background !!..but dont quote me on that one !! I hope you all get your money back but your best bet is to just dispute it through your bank or credit card ASAP !

My advice to anyone who gets e-mails for work at home income Contact the BBB. Also read webs with the person”Boss” of the company.Or look up the company name, there will always be tons of testimonies of “victims” who fell for these “get rich quick, easy and fun” jobs. Some of them use a business name, so look up that if needed, you’ll find the “business” doesn’t exist at all, or been busted. Unfortunately folks, unless you too want to stoop so low as the thousand of subhuman who don’t give a crap about descent human beings, it would be easy to fabricate this cruel, hurtful, selfish lifestyle. reality,But for those of us who care about fellow human beings, good old fashion hard work and struggling at times is the right thing to do( and with no conscious and paranoia following you around) Pass this around to help others to know the truth!!

Thank GOD for you Joe!! I was ready to spen $197.00 I don’t have to process rebates from home. I totally came across your site by accident, but I had some reservations about sending my money. One being my email was returned because the name didn’t exist. I also noticed she used two different last names. She also added little tid bits of info she had forgotten to tell me in each of her emails-BIG RED flag! The words ” high pressure sells tactics” kept popping in to my head-you and the replies have confirmed it! I hope this snake is totally exposed and humiliated!!
Michael

Hi Michael and everyone else. I’m excited to hear about saving you all some money! We should book a cruise with all the cash we’re saving. Steve, make it so.

Seriously, though, BS scams like this one thrive only in darkness and ignorance. We (all of us) can put her out of business by lifting up the rock she lives under and letting in the light of day. There’s no better way to dry out slime.

Dana, that’s really intriguing. I don’t know of anyone who has done it, but I’ll be very interested in what you find out. I suspect, however, that the “business” is based in another country. That’s often what makes it hard to prosecute internet scams.

I wish now I had found this site before I was stupid and tried to order this so called great deal. I got my credit card statment yesterday and saw the charge. I tried to call the company acouple of times and got nowhere. I’ve called my credit card card company to get a refund on my card.. I hope it does turn out to be long ordeal to get my refund.. I should’ve known better…

THANK YOU for this info. I had received the Angela Penbrook “spam” email, was deleting my “bulk” junk email when I saw the subject line of: “Get paid to fill out forms from home ($300/day or more)”. I clicked on the link and read the ENTIRE webpage, had actually taken my credit card OUT of my wallet and was going to try it out. A little voice told me to GOOGLE and, PRAISE THE LORD that I listened to that little voice.
Had I not googled it, I have no doubt I would be one of the many, many people who lost $197 (or more, since on the site she’s threatening to increase the cost to $500 OR charge a monthly fee of $29.99).

Anyway.. THANKS to “I’ve Tried That” and “Google” !!!

I to have been taken. (Stupid me) I was sitting down at the computer to start the process at step one. Clicked on the site, gave my info and password. The page has been removed? Received a e-mail that the second week training course is now available? clicked on it and this page has been removed? Yesterday being April 1st. (April FOOLS) I received a call on my cell. It was a rep from Angela wanting to interview me for there next success story? I was in Home Depot and said I didn’t have time to talk at the moment. They are calling back. I am responding here after I decided to Google her this morning. WIsh I would have done that three weeks ago. Thanks for the heads up Bailey.

This is for Patricia or anyone else that has actually spoken with a live person in “customer service” for this Angela Penbook. Were you given a confirmation number of 892368??? I called twice today and got 2 different people, obviously, and was given the same confirmation number twice. Total scam!!! They are obviously not going to refund anyones money. I wish I would have been smart and googled her name first. Lesson learned! There should be a class action lawsuit for this site so everyone can get their money back. It’s sick how people pray on people in need. It truly makes me sick to my stomach! Hopefully, our only beacon of light is that these people will rot! I’m a little angry about the whole thing. More angry at myself for being sucked in i guess.

hi my name is loretta fisher I just signed up with angela penbrook I am a mother of wo small children and im strugeling as it is and I cant afford to get ripedoff so if anyone out there can help me to get my money back walk me through what to do tell me the steps anything please help I cant afford to loose money that I dont have please for mine and my childrens sake.

Hi everyone, My sincere concerns go out to all those who fell for this horrible scam. I was almost a victim. I had my credit card in my hand until something told me to Google her. Well I did and I read all of your notes. Thank God for this website. And good luck to all who are fighting for their money back. This is a lesson for us. I will never trust anything like this again. The next time i get an email like this its going straight to the trash. Just having that feeling of almost charging my credit card for this makes me sick. GOOD LUCK!

it’s been 8 business day, and i still havent receive my refund, so i called them again today, and this guy took all my info “again” and telling me to wait another 5-7 days, he couldn’t even speak english, i insisted and started yelling at him until he finally put me on hold for a while and check the status. He said the transaction was done on 03/21/08 and he gave me a transaction#, i’m gonna check with my bank later to see what’s going on. I’ll let u know.

My feelings exactly, Susan !!!
There has to be SOMETHING to do from home that can be done on MY time, whether it’s from 2 to 4 in the afternoon or 8 to 10 at night!!

@ Susan and Rhonda: Yes, there are such jobs to be found. The first thing I would suggest is that you change your expectations a little. Instead of looking for a “real online job,” look for real jobs, online. There’s a big difference. An “online job” implies that you’ll be doing work over the internet, interacting with information that’s on another computer somewhere out there. We have never seen genuine jobs of this type. Scammers know that expectation and play on it to suck money out of you. A job you find online is different. You use the Internet to find real jobs, but you do the work offline, and it’s stored on your local computer. You’ll return finished work to an employer or client using the Internet, but you don’t do the work over the ‘Net. We have seen thousands of these types of jobs.

A good place to start is the “Work at Home Jobs” link at the top of this page. We also tell you a lot about finding work like this in our e-book, which for a limited time, is priced at whatever you want to pay. Check it out.

Hi Patricia. I just saw your comment about not receiving your refund! I hope you get it back, but what concerns me is that you said you were going to check your bank later to see if the transaction that he referred to. I hope and pray she/he/they don’t have your ban info!!

So, as a supportive spouse, my girlfriend stumbled across the ever so enlightening offer of processing rebates from home. In between jobs, I told her that if that was something that she wanted to do I would support her in this decision, but knowingly in the back of my mind that it was a scam. We agreed for her to try it. Well, to our surprise, another job offer,(real-life, not net based), was at hand, and she took it, so therefore no time to process the rebates. So she called the number that was listed off of the website that was given upon payment, and low and behold the number wasn’t in service. Next day, we were talking about the whole thing, and how it was a scam, and my phone rang,( which was odd, due to the fact that when she signed up she used her number), and it was a courtesy call from penbrook asking how she liked the program. She told them that she got another job offer and was unable to complete the series of courses that one has to go through in order to process the rebates, that she would like to have her money re-deposited into our bank account. The gentleman on the phone gave her a customer service number to call. We have called them twice now to get it back. The last time I called I got off the phone I had to chuckle on how much inadequacy they possess, reason being is that they gave me the same confirmation number both times for when the money is to be re-deposited. So this morning I was checking into my bank account to see if it was re-deposited yet, because they sent me an email stating that it was going to be within 5-7 business days, and it has not. So i jumped on the horn once again and called them, and I told them of their flaws, i.e. same confirmation number, and basically I threatened them, to make it short. The lady that I spoke with told me that the money will be in my account today. If not, I will be calling them back once again if I have too. And I will harass them until i get it back. So, just in case you all don’t have a correct number, here are the two that I have. 1-800-785-8042, and 1-866-885-8126.Wish us luck and good luck to all of you who are in our position.

All I can say is thank God for Google and this site (Ivetriedthat.com). I was almost reaching for my wallet until that little voice in my head said “if it sounds like it’s too good to be true, it probably is” and was the little voice ever so right.
If more people would utilize their voting rights maybe we could get some laws enacted with big enough teeth to get people like Angela or Angel (or whom ever they are) put in prison instead of being put on probation or just fined. These people need hard time and should be made example of to anyone who thinks of trying this kind of scam.

I have to join order but I still could not get any webpage from Her So I confuse what is that I order by 03/17/2008 now is 04/05/2008 already half month passed but still not yet begin to work (earn money) I don’t know what is that mean need how long time I can get it webpage?

Jerry, you do understand that we’re not Angela Penbrook, right? If you read this post and all the comments, you’ll see that you’ve been scammed. She’s not going to respond. Barking at her from here is like yelling at the Chinese government from Mexico.

I would like to thank this website for telling me the truth about Angela Penbrook. This website just saved me $197.00. I also get like 2-4 emails a day regarding this magnificent processing “scam”!

UNBELIEVABLE.. I just received another email from “Angela” today. This is what the SUBJECT LINE said:

Rhonda, Please Confirm #817-5627
($117,000 working from home position).

I just had an idea.. I think I’m going to send a “warning” email to everyone in my address book. Maybe if we all do that and it gets forwarded to others, we can keep people from losing more $$$ and keep Angela from making more.

What a bummer! I also got scammed for $197. It could have been worse. Someone named “Heather” called me from an 801 area code wanting me to put $10K to $20K on my credit card to get my internet business started.

Why is the world full of such scum that prey on people struggling to survive? I bet they would steal from their grandmother if they thought they could make a buck.

I am so glad I went to this website before I decide to purchase. Otherwise, I also got scammed for $197.

From their earnings disclaimer, paragraphs 5 and 6. In other words, BEWARE!!!!!!!!!

MONETARY AND INCOME RESULTS ARE BASED ON MANY FACTORS. WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW WELL YOU WILL DO, AS WE DO NOT KNOW YOU, YOUR BACKGROUND, YOUR WORK ETHIC, OR YOUR BUSINESS SKILLS OR PRACTICES. THEREFORE WE DO NOT GUARANTEE OR IMPLY THAT YOU WILL WIN ANY INCENTIVES OR PRIZES THAT MAY BE OFFERED, GET RICH, THAT YOU WILL DO AS WELL, OR MAKE ANY MONEY AT ALL. THERE IS NO ASSURANCE YOU’LL DO AS WELL. IF YOU RELY UPON OUR FIGURES; YOU MUST ACCEPT THE RISK OF NOT DOING AS WELL.

INTERNET BUSINESSES AND EARNINGS DERIVED THEREFROM, HAVE UNKNOWN RISKS INVOLVED, AND ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR EVERYONE. MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON ANY INFORMATION PRESENTED IN OUR PRODUCTS, SERVICES, OR WEB SITE, SHOULD BE DONE ONLY WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU COULD EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT LOSSES, OR MAKE NO MONEY AT ALL. ONLY RISK CAPITAL SHOULD BE USED.

I was not scammed by this but found the email from Penbrook interesting. I suggest folks file a complaint with the State Attorney’s office of California. If you can figure out an address where court papers can be served to, I would suggest filing a small claims with the county court of where the address is. If you can find the address, you could also approach a lawyer to take a class action lawsuit out on them. The problem is finding a valid address…..

If someone really wants to go after them I suggest searching for their business registration. There are a few ways:

1. I searched the California registration of businesses and 2 came up with the word Penbrook in it. It gives addresses but I’m not sure they are related to Penbrook Productions. The website is: http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/list.html. Next I searched to see if there was a list of DBA (Doing Business As) for Penbrook which also have to register with the state. I could not find a place to search for DBA listings. However, someone with more time than me, could find this. Probably there will be a series of business names you will have to dig through to get to a real person and a real address.

2. The website they use has to be registered with ICANS. That is the website registering entity. They can provide who registered it. It probably was registered through a multiple number of entities so this will likely take a series of inquires.

3. The credit card company sent their payment to some valid business entity. Ask the credit card company for information on who they sent the money to. Again, there are probably layers of companies and address you will have to chase through.

Years ago an online moving company scammed me by picking up my household goods and then holding them hostage until I paid double the initial quote. I used these techniques to find the owner. He looked like he was going to have a heart attack when I knocked on his residence at 7pm and demanded my money back. Once I had his address, I was able to get the State Attorney office of FL to harrass him.

I’m so glad I researched Angela Penbook!!! Sorry for all that have been scammed, I almost fell for it myself.

Wow! How lucky I feel to have googled Angela Stevens name. It must have been devine intervention. I was sent an email from Morewolf: Making an income from home. I clicked on one of the links listed their and up came Angela Stevens Rebate Processing Business. It sounded really good and I’m the type to jump on something right away. I filled out the forms and got to the point where your credit card comes in and it wasn’t in my wallet. I had used it the night before. It was at home sitting on my bedside table. I decided to google Angela’s name. I’m sure you know what I found. I was very saddened to find that this was just another scam to ripoff honest people looking for a way of getting out of the day to day rat race and find something to work on their own. I feel bad for everyone who got taken by this. I’ve been taken by some scams in the past myself; The letter-stuffing “make $5000.00 a week”. They failed to mention you’d have to spend big money advertising only to get a response here and there by people who were getting ripped off too. The “Bank Notes processing scam” Oh there’s plenty of bank notes. You may want to find out what type of credentials you need to find them, process them, and sell them. In Utah, its a Federal offense to do either unless you have a license in good standing with the state. And to get that license you have to work for an investment house for years. Don’t get me started. Are there any on-line legitimate businesses that I can work from home that I can make decent money at. I’m not afraid of hard work, I have money that I can invest; not awhole lot but some, and I’m patient. I’m just not very creative so I need a blueprint of something already working.

Woo-hoo! Thanks for all the details, Joyce. I’m copying your success story to the thread about how to get refunds from scams. You see folks? There is hope.

i was just about to try angela’s so called get rich quick scheme,when i thought i better google her 1st. i am usually the type of person to jump rght into something, and then regret it later, so i told myself not this time. i just want to say thank you to everyone for exposing this so called women or whoever, or what ever she is.

Like Stacy here, i’m going through the same thing with these people, i used a debit card to pay for this crap, so i called my bank yesterday, and they told me to call the company again ’cause they have no record of a request for the refund, i called them, and this lady told me that i have to wait another 4-6 business day, cause it’s showing in their system that my refund was processed as of 03/21/08. I’m very frustated right now, but i’m willing to give wait for this week, i’m gonna be out of the county for probably the rest of the month, my gonna have my cousin f/u with them. My bank also informed me to ask for the confirmation# they got from them if the refund was processed, that way they can look for it. I will call them again on Friday if this is not resolve.
I feel the same way Stacy, there’s no way, i’m gonna fall for those BS again, risk money that work hard for. I think these people are trying to hold our money till the 90 days period have passed so they can say it’s too late, but i have all keep all my record, emails, phone calls etc. Gud luck to everyone and don’t stop fighting for your money.

Lately this scam has taken to Craigslist’s job postings. I “applied” for a postion doing proofreading and editing, and got a reply with a link, that ultimately ended up with Angela’s site. I guess she hasn’t figured out that it’s easy for people to find out if she’s on the up and up with a simple Google search. I’m just thankful that I didn’t end up with a mailbox full of spam. Regardless, I’m not going to use my “real” e-mail with Craigslist anymore – I might not be so lucky next time!

Thanks for the heads up, Charles.

Someone please help. Here’s what I did. As soon as I found out I had been scammed I immediately went to my bank, (by the way I used my debit card) and told them what had happened. their suggestion was to close the account, and issue a new debit card. So I closed the one I had used, but it still went thru. Now my concern is if I closed this account, I do not want them to get my new number, but if I try to get a refund, I’ll have to give them a number. Suggestions?

Wow i couldn’t beleive that Angela Penbrook has not been stopped prior to my be convinced that she is an honest business woman. there is now a little comfort in knowing that other honest consumers like you all have been given a disservice as i have. She must be stopped has any of you concidered a class action law suit? she is home base for computer crimes anyone interested please email me or if you have activated a class action lawsuit let me in on it. We all deserve better

Even if you used a debit card that has been cancelled, you should be able to get your money back. Don’t let your bank jerk you around. It may cost you $25.00 bucks, but is worth it. You have to file within 30 days though, so do not let it go past that point, otherwise the bank will tell you they cannot do anything about it. As a bank, they can and will get the money from whatever bank account the money went to. I have gone through this with my bank on two different occassions. Both times I managed to recover my money. NEVER use a site like PayPal, 99.9% of the time, any offer like this is most definitely a scam if they use PayPal to get thier money.

Good luck.

Thank you so much for your insight and I am so thankful that me amd my wifechecked out this angel person on your sight. We almost got scamed this morning by almost sending her 197.00.
Do you know anything about smc corp which has been in business for the last sixty one years?

Thanks

Phil

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Angela Penbrook is a criminal.

READ ON…READ ON…READ ON…READ ON…READ ON…

This site put up by someone calling themselves Angela Penbrook is a scam and criminal.

If you are thinking about putting money into this consider this.

Just a few minutes ago, after reading some of the other posts, I decided to do an experiment. I called the customer service number located at the top of the “privacy policy” page. It is located at the bottom of the page in the footer area. It is a link to the privacy policy. The number was 1-866-885-8126

I called the number and gave the rep (she gave her name as Danielle) a bogus, fictitious name. I told her that I wanted a refund. (even though I have never bought anything from this company or this site) She asked when I purchased the program. I gave her a fictitious date. (Jan 23) She asked what my zip code was. I gave her a zip code from a piece of junk mail I just received this morning in the mail. She ask what was the last four numbers from the credit card I used to purchase the program. I told her I did not remember which credit card it was.

She put me on hold for about 30 seconds.

When she came back on, she address me as MR. (the fictitious name I gave her) She told me that she was able to locate my purchase and was inputing the information. And then told me that I should see a direct deposit to my bank account within 5 to 10 days. And even gave me a confirmation number. 892368 was the number.

I asked for her extension or employee number. she told me they were not allowed to give that information out, but if I needed to call back I could just call and ask for her. She was the only one there by that name.

If you are thinking about sending these people money. Before you do. Do the same thing I did. See for yourself. If you get the same results, you will know they are scams in the worst way.

You are free to write me as well. I can tell you about a REAL way to make extra money from home. That is if you can stand real money from home.

Carl@

Hey Everyone, I just read through some of the other posts. I noticed that Marie on an earlier post dated April 4 received the same confirmation number that I did.

Folks, you do not have to be victimized by this con artist. Here is the link to get it for free.

[link removed by Joe. Contact Carl at the email address below, or click on his name, if you want more information.]

I would be glad to here from anyone who has be saved from this scam website. carl at littleguynetwork-x dott… com.

And if you want a real opportunity to make money from home, I can tell you about what I am doing.

Oh my God!!! I am fairly new to the internet world, but I foolishly gave Angela SINbrook $197. I have been trying to get my refund (confirmation # 892368) for 2 months. Thankfully my bank (Wachovia) credited my account and they are investigating this witch. I wish I had known how to find these reviews before I made that mistake. How can Careerbuilder continue to let her rip people off? Something needs to be done. Everyone should be alerted somehow. I’m mad as hell…..

Hi, I got ripped off just yesterday for $197.00 as well and received nothing, no website, no email (except the afforementioned ebook about how to use clinkbank) and no phone numbers. Been calling all afternoon and just getting all circuits are busy. Called my bank and the payment is “pending” and they say they can’t cancel so I have to wait til these scam artists get my money before I can dispute. Good all, stay away from Angela Penbrook, I’m calling the Vancouver, WA police and will let you know if I get anywhere with them.

call me a sucker also! Got me credit card statement today and lo and behold there it was $197.00 to the scammer, which I cancelled the next day (mar 6). I called at 2:30 CST waited 15 minutes, someone picked up and disconnected, called back at waited for 1 hour and 27 minutes….same damn thing happened. called that 866-885-8126 number and that number didn’t even go through as anything. called the 800-785-8042 and got a “valerie” asked for my name and email address. After being extremely firm with her i also got a transaction number of 660871123 and I asked how soon would i see this take place and she said “it already has been done, we no longer have your money and it was credited to your account”. hmmm, we’ll see.

It’s ok that you didn’t publish my email. It gave me a chance to vent anyway. So thank you.

I am ashamed to say that I was so desperate to find something to make money at home that I joined. I was sent a set of instruction detailing what I would do. I have yet to make any money though. It has only been a couple of days and for some reason I decided to google it and boy am I sorry I didn’t do it sooner!!!

OK People if your really serious about this, act now! I have just sent an e-mal to Channel fox 5 NY, SHAME ON YOU! asking them to help me out on this venture..I want to take down these crooks and fast! any additional information you may have on these crooks would be most def welcomed, I am not playing games its not the money anymore that bothers me, I’m mind boggled at how people can be so vicious and cruel. They are going to wish they ever bumped into the liking of me….

Thanks Joe.

I’m just standing up for myself instead of complaining about it. We all need to stand up for our rights. Listen I too like Big joe will be calling Vancouver police as well as Looking into a class action suit against this crazy B**** and her associates. I’m going to chew her up and spit her out. Once I’ve found out about what needs to be done for this class action suit I will post it, to see if anyone is interested on getting on board with me.

Thanks

Joe.

You got me I cant get into the site and besides how do I get into penbrooks sites? Supply me with some knowledge, I want to know everything I can so that when its time to burn her and her associates to a stake I have everyting I need to do that. I mean business and again if everyone had the will power we can get her right where it hurts. I know I sound like a broken record but unity is what works best.

Michelle, there is no site after they rip you off! All you get is the ebook on how list ads and maybe make some money using clickbank (one of their listings I found yesterday no longer works, though it’s still on their site).

The only info I have is from the welcome and noreply emails I received. Never received anything more.

Big Joe

I gave them this web site address, so that they may see first hand all the comments that have been posted and all the people who have been caught out there. I also contacted SHAME ON YOU! fox 5 ny. Hopefully they will contact me too, I’ve been looking into the different web sites for legal assistance I will track them down till the end of the world, there will be justice.

Michelle

Final Vent, I called Bank of America (credit card I used) and they said that though they can see the payment pending, not processed yet, they could not cancel the transaction. Shame our Banking system if your credit card company can’t cancel a pending transaction!

You can go into paypal and cancel a transaction if you need to (I don’t work for them, I use them and had some fraud attempted on me. Buyer thought I had shipped item, I had not). Can’t believe I didn’t do more research here, guess I trusted CareerBuilder. Never again.

I feel so stupid for believing in this BS. I really though it was a good opportunity to make good money. I was gonna call her 866 #, but now I won’t. For what? Thanks to you guys I know I won’t get my money back that way. I’m calling my C.C company (AmEx) and see what happens…
I’m think I can get in touch with a friend of mine that works for a TV station, but it’s a latin station, so I don’t know if it will work. I haven’t talk to him in 4 years, but I can try. He works for Univision, the biggest hispanic network in the country and I think he was working in the news dept. but I’m not sure.

Re: Angela Penbrook

WOW!!
I can’t believe people like this are still doing s… like this. I’ve scammed once for a small amount $90.00 on an internet bogus purchase even though I spent countless hours researching. Anyway I wrote this off and chalked it up to stupidity. I read the Angela Penbrook opportunity, did the research and found this website, what I can say is there needs to be more publicity over the net about this forum.

Good Luck to those trying to get their money back and god bless those that bring these scammers to the forefront.

I like the countdown at the bottom of the page. I was worried I would run out of my 2 hours and 30 minute time limit. That is until I refreshed the page and it went back to 2 hours, 34 minutes, and 3 seconds…every time I refreshed the page. whew. What a relief, now I have unlimited time to sign up.

I’m not sure how you other paid for this scam, but I called my credit card company on 4-1-08 to dispute the charge. I got a letter from credit card company although it was dated 4-2-08
yesterday. Stating the dispute has been settled and a credit would be put on my card.. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE OTHERS STILL TRYING TO GET THERE MONEY BACK

Serge Dandelin writes about fraud and due diligence:

“Fraud. You find it everywhere. There is so much of it in today’s world that you would think this is the rule and not the exception.

The fact is that many people find it easier to make money by cheating others than working hard. Sad but true.

Where does that leave you?

You need to be very circumspect when you buy something on the Net so you could spot the signs that point to fraud and protect yourself.”

Mr. Dandelin, who is apparently a “Search Engine Optimization specialist and consultant” who has written over 300 articles in print and 5 published ebooks, proceeds to demonstrate that he knows very little about business opportunity laws.

Don’t follow his advice.

At present, there is only one sure fire way to avoid a business opportunity fraud.

First, locate the regulator responsible for overseeing the sale of business opportunities in your state.

There are 26 such regulators.

Second, phone them up, or email them and ask if the seller is registered in your state.

Third, if they are not registered- pass on the opportunity. If they are registered, get a copy of their registration and start your due diligence – preferably by finding other people interested in the opportunity.

Here is an example, from the State of Washington. Coastal Vacations is a fraudulent business opportunity seller of work at home scams. In 2001, the State of Washington cracked down on them, and again in 2007.

But if you don’t know where to look, then all the regulator’s hard work goes out the window.

So why did Serge write up his silly article on fraud – when he had nothing of value to add?

Because he wants you to think that he is a trusted authority, which will make it easier for him to sell you some scammy SEO services.

I just sent in a message to Fox news network. Maybe they’ll get them. I’m currently in the process of getting my money back…

Ben, did Steve hire you to do a pitch for our book? It shows you how to find real, realistic jobs that will help you earn a couple hundred extra per month if you have some decent computer skills. The only online “program” (as opposed to jobs) I’ve found that will do that is blogging. But it’s not overnight.

Hey, I just sent an email to them asking for a refund even though I have not fallen to their scam.. I am curious and will share with you what their response will be… this shld be fun…

I don’t really know where to begin. I have Lupus and am not able to keep a public job. So I thought I would search for a job that I could do from home. Prior to beginning my search I logged into our local news station and was looking thru their job listing when I found Angela Penbrook. What a MISTAKE. I really didn’t research it because I was so desperate. My husband nor myself were working, due to the slow in construction, we have three kids and this was our last resort. So with our last 197.00 of our tax refund money we bought the program. I never received rebates to process, I listed hundreds of ads for clickbank, filed out the forms for being a secret shopper, NOTHING! So I called to request a refund for my money back on March 1st, 2008. They informed me that it would take no longer that 7 – 10 business days. I waited till March 17th and called back because nothing had been refunded to my card. This time they sent me a confirmation email stating that they would refund my money and that it would take no longer that 5- 7 days. I waited till 8 days and called back this time I was informed that they were experiencing computer problems and that they would force it back onto my card and that this would take no longer than 3-5 days, So again I waited 5 days, called back was told that the computers were working now ant that I would have to wait ANOTHER 3-5 days. Still NO REFUND! At this point I am boiling mad because, I am having to borrow money from my 76 year old father to feed my family when all they had to do was refund me the money they got not 10 minutes after I sent them the credit card information. I call back and talked to a different manager and he swore to me that I will have my money back by April the 14th. NOTHING ! To put the icing on the cake, today I called to speak to a manager and they asked me for my information so I gave them the information after she pulled up my account she told me ” THANK YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY, GOODBYE” and HUNG UP ON ME. SO I called and told them not to hang up on me that I really needed this money I expected it today that I was not waiting ANY LONGER and they told me sorry it will be investigated by there head managers and was hung up on again. I have sent emails on top of email, I don’t know what else to do. I do know one thing they WILL get tired of hearing from me because I will call EVERYDAY! T anyone out there thinking about purchasing this program Please do not buy into this. Angela Penbrook IS A SCAMMER! She has devestated my family please don’t let it happen to yu.

WELL LIKE THE REST OF YOU WE FELL FOR THE WHOLE SCAM TO, IT IS EXTREMELY MISLEADING & DISHONEST HOPEFULLY ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THROUGH LIKE OURSELVES & PATICIA.” SHES RIGHT” I CALLED THE SAME # 1-866-885-8126 A DOUBLE TALKING NON CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENATIVE ASKED FOR THE SAME BS INFORMATION. LET THIS BE A PUBLIC NOTICE TO ANGELA PENBROOK (REBATE PROCESSING PROGRAM ) FOR THE REQUEST OF OUR REFUND OF $197.00. AS ADVERTISED ON THE INTERNET WITH THE 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE WITHIN 90 DAYS FROM DATE OF PERCHASE, REFUND REQUEST DATE IS APRIL 15TH 2008.WE WERE ISSUED A SIX DIGIT AUTHORAZATION CODE BY CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTIVE JAMES. SO WE WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW IT GOES .I TO AM WITH PATRICIA I WILL TAKE THIS AS FAR AS I HAVE TO ,I HAVE WENT SO FAR AS FILING A FORMAL COMPLAINT THROUGH MY LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AM WRITTING A LETTER TO MY LOCAL CONGRESSMAN TO SEE IF WE CANT STOP THIS ORGANAZATION FROM RIPPING OFF ANY OTHER HARD WORKING TAX PAYING AMERICANS. LOTS OF LUCK YOU’LL BE HEARING FROM ME SOON.

P.S. joseph ashford phone number or atleast the number he gave me is 1949-706-3183 my advice hassel them till you get on there nerves and they pay you double just to stop calling them

This is for Carl that left a message on 4/9/08. Your last line in your message was: You are free to write me as well. I can tell you about a REAL way to make extra money from home. That is if you can stand real money from home.
Carl@

I am interested I can’t find anything worth doing that has the possibility for a good income that doesn’t require more hours than the job I have now.

I would like to hear from you. dishong@dhiusa.com
I hope to hear from you soon.
Beth

I too was scammed. Needed extra money to pay hospital bills, thought this would be a way to make extra cash.
I feel so stupid. Tried to earn extra cash but instead lost $197 that could have gone to pay hospital bills.
Moral: Trust no one

hay everyone its loretta again I got my money back so my advice call your creditcard company and have them call on three way because if they dont give it back its called steeling and the credit card company will go after them hope and prayers go out to all of you

You know, I’m sure that photo is not really the person who is behind all of this. Penbrook productions probably just snatched a photo online somewhere and named it “Angela.” Wouldn’t it be cool to find the photo and its original source? That’s your mission, should you choose to accept it. Any takers?

Are there any legit work at home programs? If so, how does one know if they are legitimate?

This is to Joe. I would do that but the card I used was my H&R Block Tax refund card and they dont persue things like this. So not only was I hurt my Angela Penbrook I dont have a leg to stand on with the credit card either. Thank You for your advise and concern but I have not given up just yet. Tammy

You know what I just noticed, you know the form that you fill out after you click the “get started” now button at the bottom of the web page- On the form it asks you if you have any credit cards and how much credit you have – I wonder if that is a tip off to the scammer to contact you to try to get more money from you, just like Bailey on April 1st comment was promised “a 6-week training program with the first 30 day profit exceeding $3,000 and doubling every 30 days. For only $3,840.00!!!!!”
I was about to put how many cards I had and how much credit my husband and I have until I changed my mind at the last minute and put $0. I never did recieve a call from the training consultant I was promised!
Just a thought I had, what do you all think?

I bet you’re absolutely right, Jenn. That’s crazy! I’m surprised more people haven’t complained about that question.

hi, i work for a company that uses angela program. it is a scam all the way because we call her clients and not one im mean not one person has ever made that program work. we help people get a real business going and we send you to the better business burue first to show that we are not miss penbook and that we can really help you. it your are still interested you can email mail me. at gsu2432@yahoo.com. i promise that we can help and i will tell you right up front that her program is a scam. good luck finding a real program and i hope you all do well. greg

Hi. This comment will get buried amid all the others, and they are numerous! Really, the ONLY thing you need to know about these type of offers is that they are ALL scams. Just ask yourself-does it really make sense that all you have to do is spend a few hours a day to make that kind of money? If it sounds like fraud then it is. They all start the same way-telling you a sob story of how hard they worked at several jobs at a time, barely able to pay rent, kids to support, etc. Then they stumble upon this incredible money making idea and become rich. Now they’re telling you how to do the same. The reality is, if they are getting rich it’s off selling you bogus money making programs using boiler room tactics–you have to sign up right away because there’s only a few positions left! PLEASE don’t fall for these scams! If you’re desparate for money now, then sending these scammers money will only make you worse off! I. personally, have never bought into any of these “deals” but many have. Be smart and THINK about what you may be getting into.
frank

UPDATE….UPDATE…UPDATE…UPDATE

More Dirt on whoever this is that calls themselves Angela Penbrook.

HELLO EVERYONE,

I made a post back on April 9 about the escapades of this bogus individual who presents himself or herself as Angela Penbrook. Personally I do not believe such an individual even exists. I think this website is a scam in the worst way. And it has already been proven by the experiences of everyone on this blog. Go back and read my posts (yes there is two) on April 9.

Well you would not believe what has happened since then. I noticed lately that my machine has been running exceptionally slow. And seemed to keep getting worse. And then one evening something happened. Out of the clear blue, a website popup in my browser. Guess who it was? You guess it…our mutual friend – Angela Penbrook.

I thought that is odd. It has happened a few of times recently, but I just passed it off as the name and site didnt mean anything to me then. But now it does after reading the posts here and what I discovered about it. I made a comment to my wife about the site and what I had discovered about it. My wife told me that site has popped up with her several times as well for no reason recently. Well to make a long story short. I then got a suspicious feeling about her (him, it, them) it.

I decided to run a scan on my machine. I use a really nice deep scanning anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-spyware program. It takes about 45 minutes. And sure enough my machine had lots of stuff hidden deep inside windows where most anti-virus software does not look. I was amazed but not surprised.

That explains why that pesky little Angela Penbrook website keeps coming up and finding its way into my browser. They have planted a malware bot into my machine that is timed to come up every so often. Not enough to be obvious, but enough to be effective when my browser is open.

So I cleaned it off and Presto. She has not shown her ugly face on my machine since. Imagine that! Witch!!!!!

So now I am even more convinced that it is a scam from the word go. Stay away from them. And for heavens sake scan your machine with a good anti-virus, anti-malware program and get her out of your machine. She is nothing more than a cyber whore. And her internet malware disease that she spreads all over to any unsuspecting computer for a buck is evidence.

In the meantime, Here is a link (maybe Joe will let it stay) to a story I saw on Good Morning America about REAL legitimate companies that hire people to work from home doing customer service work. And they do not require any money to start. It is just like a job. You can check out the story for yourself. I thought it was interesting.

http://abcnewps.go.com/GMA/AsSeenOnGMA/story?id=4585337&page=1

If Joe decides to take the link down here is a list of some of the companies listed in the story you can check out.

http://www.liveops.com
http://www.westathome.com
http://www.convergysworkathome.com
http://www.alpineaccess.com
http://www.arise.com
http://www.vipdesk.com
http://www.workingsolutions.com
http://www.teamdoubleclick.com

These are all dot com sites.

Be sure to read the comment reviews on the abc website. It looks like everyone I read, seemed to favor the liveops company. But I don’t know anything about any of them. You are on your own for this one. This was just the segment I saw. Just make sure you do your own due diligence in checking them out.

Good Luck to all of you,

Carl at littleguynetwork-x [dott] com

Thanks everyone!

I was almost ready to loose $197.00 dollars. I am so glad I checked all your reviews before I joined the Angela Penbroke Program. What a looser she is. She should be send to prison, then have everyone join her her program inside. Maybe somebody would teach her a lesson there, and knock her teech out. I’m sure she would learn not to be so deceptive, once she’s out of her confinement. Be careful folks ! The Internet seems like it’s full SCAMS. Angela Pembroke seems to be the cream of the pure SCUM BAG !!

hi everyone. i read mostly all of your post and i am really sorry to hear about all that. i was about to fall for that scam. but thanks to you i didn’t. but still. the way i was raised and what i learned from my religion, islam, left the responsibilty on my shoulders to try to help ya all get your money back and stop what is happening. so i just emailed fox news about the situation( ill include the email) and i’ll be waching fox all day today hoping they will do something for it. i wish you all best luck and may god help you get your money back
following is the email:

please please please give yourself 5 minutes to read the whole email and understand the situation is.

hi this is a really important issue that alot of people are falling for and losing their money. its about scam website for a person called angela penbrook following is the website:
rebateprocessortools.com/

this scamer is using even pictures from a retirement website following is the address for that website: b-c-h.net
and the following link shows how many people did fall for that scamer: http://www.ivetriedthat.com/2008/03/13/angela-penbrook-angel-stevens-a-scam-by-any-other-name/

please this is a dangerous issue that needs to be resolved or at least we need to open peoples eyes about. i felt my job is to deliver this to u. and ur job would be to deliver rhe info to everybody everywhere. i’m emailing this and i have a big hope u will do something. i’ll be waching fox news all day today . and i do hope u will help usa from falling into this scams. thank you

Judging by the experiences I’ve read on this board,I am now thoroughly convinced that Angela Penbrook is a scam artist of the worst sort. I am ashamed to say I learned the hard way as well by losing $197 to this lowlife tramp. I found out about this bogus “opportunity” through a spam e-mail. And I am still getting e-mails in my bulk folder from this slime ball pushing her pile of poop. Don’t let this happen to you if you have been smart enough(unlike me)not to take the bait. Thank God for Google or I otherwise would not have found this website.

I also was suckered into signing up for this. I called 1-866-885-8126 and all I received was a busy signal. I called 1-800-785-8042 and talked to Michael Anderson, who gave m an employee id of 8600230 – probably not right), and requested the refund. Then I called right back ad talked to Melody Upton who stated my refund was going to be processed and I woul receive an email. Then I told her after she gave me the same refund authorization code number as listed above that I wanted to speak to a supervisor. Then she connected me with Chelsea Clayton. I spoke to her and she hung up on me. She informed me that they didn’t have extnsions or id numbers to get back in touch with them. So therefore, I am on the phone again and this time I asked for her directly and I think I have been put on forever hold. So I have connected on another phone and gave the name Jane Smith and we will see if that works! I finally did get through to her again. We will see if the refund actually shows up in 5-7 business days. If no refund, I will contact her again. If I hve to, I will file a lawsuit to get everyone’s money back. I am sure an attorney would love this case since there are so many involved.

Hi Everyone…Again!

Ok…I disputed this charge with my bank (2 weeks ago) because I used the debit/cc option. They said I should receive a letter. I called them back today because I have not received a letter to date. They just informed me that they denied my request because the charge happened on Feb. 19th and I spoke to Angela Penbrooks people about this on March 13th so it was legit. Even though they knew it had a 90 day money back guarantee AND that I have an email stating all refund info from that BITCH! WHAT??? I explained the situation and now the bank girl is going to her “back office” to talk to them to see what we can do. What did I do wrong compared to those of you who have received a refund because you disputed? I feel like I’m getting screwed all over again by that bitch.

Joe: I have a Visa check card. The rep that I spoke with basically stated what was on the account listed. She called back and left me a message that the people she needs to speak to was gone for the day but she will get back with me tomorrow. I explained to her again EVERYTHING that happened. I even included all the information about what I found out about Angela Penbrook and what all of you have gone through. I even told her that other people were able to go to their banks and have this resolved. I can’t see how this is considered legit when what was delivered to me was not what I thought I would be getting plus the 90 days money back guarantee and how this is a huge scam. I will let everyone know what happens when this is all said and done. Keep your fingers crossed.

I hate to say that my husband, was so excited about the rebate thing, he just knew he had found THE answer that he had been looking for. I have MS and can no longer work a regular job for different medical reasons, Mike thought this was something that I could do on the days that I felt like sitting at the computer for an hour or so now and then to help make some money. I am 55 yrs. old and was diagoised with MS when I was 18 yrs.old. I wasn’t as excited as Mike was but he spent the $197.00 and last night Mike wanted me to listen in on a 3-way call with some man that was gonna create our business plan and wanted to know how many credit cards we have and what kind of credit limits we have available on each card.It was at that time that I knew that they were really wanting us to use our credit cards to front money for something. I got up and left the room. I know it is a scam but Mike hasn’t realized it yet, I don’t think, and that bothers me. I don’t know what to do at this point………….ANY SUGGESTIONS???????

I count myself as a member of the legion who have “swallowed the hook” and been taken by scam artists. Once upon a time before the Information Superhighway was fully paved, I was sucked in to parting with a now-paltry $15 for a “starter kit” of mailing materials and flyers and a promise of 15 cents paid per flyer sent by me. I never saw the starter kit or my fifteen bucks despite repeated calls to a boiler room number. I finally contacted the U.S. Postal Service who put me in touch with an inspector in their fraud division. He took all my info and said he would get in touch if he had any updates. He did — 2 years later! Turns out our perpetrator had been busy; he was finally arrested for mail fraud and child pornography.

A bit of a roundabout way to my point that scammers have been around since day one, with no shortage expected soon, but these folks can be brought to justice. Excellent advice from Joe, to which I will add that the FBI has a website for reporting such activity:

http://www.fbi.gov/majcases/fraud/internetschemes.htm

Under “Contact Us” (top left) section, click on “Report Internet Crime”. This will bring up 3 subsequent pages, the last of which is the complaint form itself.

It may not get your money back, nor even bring the scammer to heel, but the more information the investigators have, the better equipped they are curtail this type of activity.

I am a disabled vet looking to help myself from my home, people like this, that atke advantage of people like me should have their own seat in hell. We don’t get much for our sacrifices in service for our country. Scams like this should be prosicuted. I am glad I googled more information before I fell in to this trap. I thank all of you for getting the truth out to the public.

Hi Hero,

You’ve put a lot of time and effort into this and for that I applaud you. After reading the postings that I get daily, I am going to get the BBB in NY involved. Will see if any of the news stations may be interested in this horrendous scam. I have a son in California and a cousin in Arizona who may be of help. Worth a shot to bring these lowlifes down. How do you scam people who just need some extra money, let alone people with MS and war vets who can’t work? The economy has been hard on most of us, and leeches like these bastards take advantage. EVERONE..PLASE KEEP BUSTING BALLS TILL YOU GET YOUR REFUND!!!!
P.S. My brother is a retired detective and might have some resources available to him.

I just got off the phone with the attorney generals office in NYC. That number being 212-533-6200, for any of you out there who live in the city. Since I live in Bklyn, I was given another number to call, which is 718-722-3949, to get their address and send a complaint in writing. You must write to your OWN district! If everyone writes the attorney general in their perspective states and enough complaints pile up, action will be taken. Remember, there is strength in numbers. I hope this helps a bit.

Well its true look it up your self all this info ive provided has been posted elsewhere as well…it is only a matter of time before people figure him out. At the very least he has something to do with it. And I dont care if you think it is wrong… the fbi or whoever has better things to do than help us with this scam, so I put the info out there and I will let the people see for themselves.

Thank you so much for this information. I was ALMOST taken in by this one. Like the rest of you, I was just looking for a way to bring in a little extra cash (with the gas prices the way they are!) I am so embarrassed that I almost got sucked into this. Also very glad I Googled her name and found this site. Thanks again.
Tammy

Thank God for Google and this website. I too was about to purchase this program, when something in the back of my mind told me to “google it” and I found this site! I am a single mother of 3 children and really don’t have that kind of money to give away! But her pitch was sooo convincing, I was close to using up all my money I had left to purchase it. Thank you to for providing a site that provides “real” feedback from “real” people. For those of you who paid for this program, I am deeply sorry, but don’t give up on getting your refunds. It is very sad that there are people out there preying on others who are struggling as it is!

Thanks so much to each and every one of you out there — without your info, I wouldn’t have even known where to call to try to get my money back, because the current e-mail I got from Angela Penbrook didn’t have any numbers listed at all. For those of you just starting this search, I recommend that you demand your money back right away, and hopefully they won’t take too long to give it to you. With that said, though, I will be checking my credit card bill closely, because one can’t be too careful.

Anyway, if you’r still trying to get your money back, here are my suggestions. Call one of the following phone numbers — I got through on the second number, so never got a chance to see if the other numbers are good as well, or whether you will land on a Porn Site or something worse if you try them. \

Once you reach a live body, insist on getting your money back immediately. Period.

I also told them I didn’t like being baited, and then having them send you something totally different than what was promised.

They will suggest that it takes 5-7 days to process their submissions and to credit my account. I don’t think that’s really true, so I will be checking next week to make sure that I got the money back that I am supposed to be getting. If I don’t get it from the company, you can bet I will be contacting the bank to be sure that I have a chance to challenge the charges.

1-800-785-8042
1-866-885-8126
1-888-514-6001
1-888-225-0068

Anyway, thanks to everyone out there who has been scammed by these lovely two ladies. I appreciate your moral support, and will let you know when/if I ever see any money.

Thanks so MUCH!!!!

Ruth Wenstrom

thanks for making this site…myself, i am financially strained at the moment and these online ‘work from home’ ads are very appealing…however, after looking at some of the sites (Angel Stevens), they seemed to be set up like many other scam sites, with many testimonials and not much concrete information…if there’s any advice i can give to someone who’s on the verge of buying a product online it’s this: the more testimonials you see, the more likely its a scam…also, the more links on the page that lead to another site selling something extremely similar, the more likely its a scam…thx guys

First I’d like to say that I feel badly for all the good people that have been scammed, if it had not been for this site and you taking the time to warn others I would have been taken by this SCAM. I thank you.

Hey everyone,
I’ve exchanged a couple of e-mails with Joseph Ashford above. I’ll be interested to hear about your experiences getting refunds if you decide to take him up on his offer. As with any online transaction, be careful with your credit card numbers. The last 4 digits should be enough to identify your original purchase record.

Some of these scammers say you can try them “risk free” that is a lie.
If it were truly risk free, you would not need to provide a credit card for them to charge you BEFORE you get a chance to see if it is worth it.
Once they have your card, they can charge you and lots of luck getting your money back.
Or they can steal your identity.
Anytime they say “risk free” run the other way.

I was so taken by this lying, cheat…. I wanted to have an honest work at home ‘job’ I paid the $197 up front just to read the scam.. I responded directly by phone and by email 4 times demanding a refund, which the sites listed I would receive if I was not happy with her ‘product’. That was a month ago… when I was told it would be 5 to 10 business days!.. I’m still waiting for my money, that was the most money I’ve ever forked out just to read a site of scam!@

This Joseph Ashford called me yesterday about my refund and was supposed to call me back later on. I called the phone number he left me on the message 949-706-3183 this morning and got a voice message. I left my information on this voice mail. They also give you a Customer Care number to call which I have called at least twice before and have not seen any results. I would suggest everyone call the number above and leave a message for this Joseph Ashford about receiving a refund. He sounded very cooperative but it remains to be seen if he will come through with the refund. Going back through the credit card company before the charges are on there 60 days is most likely the better option to get your money.

I have to admit that I was very close to signing up for Angela Penbrook’s (”Angel Stevens”) services. They sure sounded promising and exciting! But, I am a skeptic and read ALL of the fine print before I pressed the “click here to join risk free” button. It’s pretty ironic but in the fine print- there is NO mention of any companies such as Home Depot, BlockBuster, etc. I didn’t even understand what it was talking about. It’s pretty interesting (and funny) if any of you would like to read it. Thank you for all of your insights to this SCAM- I wish everybody could read things like this before losing money. If things seem “too good to be true” chances are- THEY ARE!!

This slimeball is absolutely shameless. He/She keeps sending me e-mails wanting to buy his/her load of garnage. I am spammed by this person about 4 or 5 times a day now. If they think I’m stupid ebough to fall for their $197 scam,they have another think coming.

Carl Cash, Please; we ask that you do not distribute our material illegally. I have no desire to seek legal action toward you.

Joseph Ashford, nice job you have. Don’t care how great you are at your job, your job stinks…if your company wasn’t a scam you wouldn’t as busy as you say you are. If the company that you work for was for real, these sites wouldn’t have to be created to help others get there money back that you stole from. I almost spent $197 today, but I thought let me do a quick Google…I just saved myself $197.
Up yours Angela Penbrook, or who ever you are. I bet it’s a guy hidding behind a woman’s name.

Hi everyone.I got scammed to by Angela Pembroke>i called
(1-866-885-8126)i told the person i spoke with that i felt i had been scammed.Ialso told them i wanted my money back and if I did not receive it i was going to report them into the better business bearue and i was alsoo gonna report there scam to the fbi.Guess what i got my money credited to my account today…It did not take any 5-7 business days.it only took 2…thanks everyone and i hope you all get your money back…..Lisa

I think it’s interesting that you Carl are running a competing website. That you are are belittling the competition. Good for you. I can see that you have a program that you desire to sell. You are no better than my company. So thank you for making your opinion completely worthless.

Joseph,

The difference between one of the websites that I promote called littleguynetwork-x.com is many.

1. I am not hiding behind a bogus website. (Where is Angela Penbrook…better yet WHO is Angela Penbrook…or is it Angela Stevens, Joe Ashford?)

2. My customers know how to get in touch with me directly. (How do you get in touch with Angela Penbrook?

3. You don’t have to look very hard to find my phone number. (Where is Angela Penbrook’s number buried?

4. I actually “want” my customers to call me. (Angela Penbrook runs from her customers.

5. My offer is very well known and very much out in the open. It is called full disclosure Joseph. (Exactly what IS Angela Penbrook offering? If your cheesy ebook is what you are offering, you are seriously misrepresenting your product and/or service – again your customers still don’t know what they are getting until AFTER they hand you the key to their bank account)

6. My offer actually works. Can you show me even one legitimate example of where someone made any decent money from what your company offers. I am not referring to the generic, recycled, repackaged information you are trying to sell in your cheesy outdated ebook that anyone can get for free all over the place.

7. My customers know when they call my number, they know they are going to talk to me. Not some middle management or other Customer Service employee that really does not care one way or the other if anything is solved, because the truth is, they are only their to collect a paycheck themselves. And they are only coached on what to say. Regardless if it is true or not. (Again where is Angela Penbrook? I am beginning to really feel Joseph that YOU are Angela Penbrook. You seem very willing to take a lot of heat, for some reason, for someone who is such an obvious crook.)

8. I want my customers to know what they are getting with my offer BEFORE any money is exchanged. (Angela Penbrook takes the money first then tries to explain the why they are only getting a 50 page outdated ebook that is actually available for free all over the place.

9. The products my customers get for the money compared to what Angela Penbrook AKA Joseph Ashford offers is like 1000 to .5. Have you ever heard of over deliver Joseph?

OK I could go on. But I think I have made my point. But just to round it off I will give one more.

10. In case you have not noticed Joseph, YOU are the one with the problem here. Not me! I don’t have a single dissatisfied customer trying to call out a lynch mob because I scammed them. In fact, my customers Thank me everyday for providing what I do to help them make a real income from home.

In fact, I just got off the phone this morning from one of my people, a lady who lives in Florida. A widow at that. Who only called to say thank you for the opportunity I offered to her. She didn’t know what she was going to do after her husband passed away. This is a lady living on Social Security. And honestly, Joseph it is more than the products that a company offers. And your company Joseph could get the same kind of phones calls, if you would only see the obvious. It is called Guns or roses. Which one do you want? Being shot at or have roses thrown your way? It is really very simple.

IT IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS!

Yes I know systems work and people fail. But I don’t care how good your offer is, if you don’t learn how to work with people you will fall flat one your face. But you already know that. You are experiencing that now. People fail because there is no relationship. There is no coaching, no mentoring.

Your company is going down, because you take money from people and then run and hide. Again Joseph, Angela, whatever your name is. CLEAN IT UP. JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. Or you will be forced to. But then I guess you already know that. That is why you are here…right? Because the fire is getting a little hot.

And once again, Kudos to Joe who hosts this thread. He is the one to applaud for setting it up. He is the one who has created the smoke signal of how much of a scam Angela Penbrook has been.
Now lets see if it gets fixed.

Carl Cash
http://www.littleguynetwork-x.com

UPDATE…UPDATE…UPDATE…UPDATE

IT’S WORKING!!

Hey everyone, Just a quick note to give some good news.

In my work (showing people how to make money from home) I do a lot of research. And part of that research is checking on the traffic of various websites. I just did a quick check on the website Angela Penbrook uses to promote her “hook and crook” rebate processing offer. THE TRAFFIC TO THAT SITE IS TANKING!

They have lost over 90% of their daily traffic and page rank in the last 45 days. And I have a feeling this site, http://www.ivetriedthat.com has had something to do with that. Why?

Because even though http://www.ivetriedthat.com does not get near the same traffic, I noticed that each time I saw a spike in little miss hookster Penbrook’s traffic, I also saw a corresponding spike in the traffic for http://www.ivetriedthat.com. What that means is each time someone went to her site and then did a search for more information they would find this site and this thread in the search results. But the daily traffic for you know who, is essentially bottoming out.

So it appears that progress is being made. I would be willing to bet they are going to have to come with a new angle, because this one is going down. LITERALLY!!!

Great job Joe. And a tip of the hat to http://www.ivetriedthat.com. And one more thing. I have gotten several emails giving great reviews to your site and how you have saved them from the teeth of the Angela Penbrook money monster.

Carl Cash
http://littleguynetwork-x.com

Hi my name is Brenda Lawrence.I like so many have done the dirty deed of trying to work from home. i gave this lady my money and even called to get it returned.I talked to a gentleman and got a conformation number to get my money put back in my account.guess what….no money. If any one knows how to get the money back please email me i would greatly thank you for any information.

Just wanted to let you know that I contacted Mr. Ashford. I sent him an email and quickly called me back. My refund was put through on 5/5 and was posted to my credit card on 5/8. Please give Mr. Ashford a try to get your money back.

Gina

I also read the ad on making money at home. Got the page that asked me for my zip code etc. I thought why in the H would they need my zip code if this was business done on the internet. Then I remembered another ad which was b.s. which asked for my zip code and came back with a congatulations msg. saying that I was eligible for the offer….or whatever.
I then decided to read the “Privacy Notice” It says in effect, that there is no privacy and no job processing rebates. But goes into details of me receiving offers and them sharing my ss#, credit card info, home address and on & on!!
My only advice is that you must realize that THE INTERNET IS FACELESS MINEFIELD!!

If you are very skillful you can navigate it without getting blown up. And folks……read all the fine print before you part with one red cent of your hard earned money or give any personal information. Good luck.

G’day everyone,
Yep, I’m an Aussie and it looks like I’ve been done too – so it appears that Angel/Angela’s nasty fingers reach all the way around the world! Oh dear, I wish I had googled her/him first. I think I knew deep down that it was a scam but desperation obviously won over commonsense.
Even if I lose my $200+ Aussie Dollars you have all saved me precious time. As soon as I received the first email I knew it was a scam (then belatedly googled for more info). I was still willing to give it a red hot go but thanks to all of you I won’t bother wasting my precious time – I’ll just pop down the paddock and ride my pet kangaroo instead (hee hee just kidding!). But hey – even though we’ve been robbed blind let’s remember to keep our sense of humour – She’s got our 200 bucks but don’t let her take away your smile too Good luck everyone, Cheers, Cath

Megan, Call Joseph Ashbrook at Penbrook Productions ,949-706-3183,
or e-mail him at ccm@penbrookproductions.com. He handled mine and got it refunded for me. If that does not work go back through your credit card company before the charge is on there 60 days. He answered this phone the last time I called. It will give you another number to call but I would leave a message on this line. Hope this will help.

We got our money back, finally!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!!

Yesterday, my husband called our credit company, and we already have our refund!!! I praise God for that!!!

We did it in a different way… We got our credit bank statement and we saw the 197 dollars charged, and next to the description there was an 866 phone number (866-885-8126), so, my husband called them and requested them our money back… It was the only way that worked!

I had sent many e-mails requesting technical support first, but no answers, then I sent many more requesting my money back and I got no one answer, then I talked to a supervisor and he hanged me up when I requested my money back, I made many calls and nothing happened… Until we received our credit bank statement, we saw that 866 number and we called them.

So, they gave us a number like a confirmation one and told us to allow them 5-7 business day to receive it back!!!

Keep trying! Try the number I gave it to you!

Good luck and praying for you all.

Thank you to everyone for the info. I hope to hear something soon about getting my money back! They said i’d have it in 5 days- so we’ll see!

UPDATE!!!!

Hello everyone. I just wanted to let you all know that I had contacted Joseph Ashford and received my refund. Contact Joseph to see if you can get yours returned. Good Luck.

My experiences with Joseph Ashford have NOT been helpful. I emailed him twice and kept calling the numbers listed from everyone who has responded to this site for 5 days. I just got off of the phone with Mr. Ashford who claims he never received my two emails. Then he tells me that they tried to refund my money to my credit card however they were unsuccessful due to the company that is processing their refunds. He claims they have had problems with the company and they are still trying to work kinks out of the system. Does this sound like a true reply to any of you? Furthermore he told me they would be sending out a check to me being that they are unable to get my refund to go through. I told him they need to overnight me the check as I have been trying to get my refund for over 22 days. I am calling my bank back. I do not trust or believe this Joseph Ashford is telling the truth. Just like everyone else who works for Angela Pembrook. Has anyone else been told this we have to send you a check story?

Look Alexa, there is no way you can tell right now if I am lying or telling the truth, only the future will be able to dictate that. Normally I would be deeply offended by somebody calling me a liar. But I understand that you’ve been waiting for a very long time for your refund and it’s been a journey of lies. So I am here, in front of this forum to tell you that what I told you is not a story. I told you that our processor has failed to do their job, for that, they are being released. And because we are not using them anymore, they are retaliating by not allowing refunds. This problem will be fixed, possibly due to legal actions. But in the mean time I have been given permission to process refunds via check. If you would prefer I will remove you from my list of people who will be receiving a check and we can wait merrily for the processor to process refunds again. The choice is yours. I apologize for assuming you desired your refund in the most expeditious way possible.

Regarding the Angela Penbrook aka. Angel Stevens: Although many may think the BBB doesn’t “do” anything, they DO inform you before you buy. In addition, just like many have added in this forum, check it out. If it’s too good to be true, then it probably isn’t. My first instinct was “Wow” that would be cool. Yet, the fact that such big companies would actually entrust unkowns on the internet to process their rebates, well, just doesn’t make sense. So, I “googled” and got to this site. THANK YOU! Far too many of us are trying just to put gas in the tanks these days. The truth of life is that you “get what you give”. There are no true “no work” success stories… they all involve work. “He who works his land will have abundant food, but the one who chases fantasies will have his share of poverty. A faithful man will be ricly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.” (Proverbs 28:19,20) Guess scammers came with the apple eating! Too bad it’s the honest man who pays the price!

Mr. Ashford. I’m happy to see that several people on this site have been kind enough to respond to my fear that I have once again been fed a bunch of bogus information. If you honestly did put through a check refund to me today as you stated when I spoke to you this morning, then I thank you very much and I will be expecting to receive the refund within a few days. I hope that you will continue to assist others that like me feel they have been taken advantage of in the worst possible way by the Pembrook organization. Again, I appeciate your assistance on my behalf.

Teri, Not everybody is effected by our negligent processors. Unfortunately you were. I found out yesterday that you were not going to be receiving your refund conventionally, but I was so busy with trying to ensure that people who didn’t get refunds are getting checks. I apologize for not contacting you to inform you but I had 2 options, tell yo, and lose about 15 minutes that I could use to process 5 more people’s refunds via check. I had to choose the 5 people. And now,everybody who is getting a check is getting informed. Oh and another thing, you should be receiving the check at about the same time as you would be receiving a credit card refund. Yet another reason why I was more concerned with getting more people refunded. So I apologize for not informing you yesterday. I only hope you understand why. Thank you for your time.

Jennifer Brush,

I assume you’re trying to get a hold of me. I think I pulled up your information, and I noticed that your refund was indeed processed on the 15th of March. Unfortunately it was not a successful settle. I just submitted your name on a list for people to receive checks. I tried calling you twice this morning to inform you of this, but after ringing the phone went into a busy tone. I hope this helps. Thank you for your patience.
By the Way, my name is Joseph Ashford, not Armstrong. Well even that can be dabated. . . .right Carl? Have a great day.

Joseph Ashford,

Yes it can be very much be debated. And more than likely with great success. You might as well be called Joe Schmuck for that matter. We don’t care, just as long as you keep making progress and staying on top of customer concerns. Which by the way, you seem to be monitoring this forum rather closely as I mentioned on May 14.

But of coarse, I have a much bigger question for you to consider. While I commend you for your seeming efforts to help fix this, have you stopped to ask yourself why so many people are even asking for refunds in the first place? In truth, marketing 101 teaches that refund request ratios is a measuring standard to gauge how valuable the offer is in the mind of the customer compared to the price they paid.

In other words, if your offer is perceived as under priced, you have low refund requests. And conversely, if your offer sucks and is perceived as overpriced, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF REFUND REQUESTS.

But I don’t have to tell you that. And I guess you already know which side of that fence your offer is on. OK so we already know that. But I am curious to find out if you actually thought you would get away with it.

I have to admit, you had great copywriters for your sales page. Maybe I need to find out if they do freelance work. Just think how much money you could have made with your conversions but with a real legitimate offer. There are all kinds of confusing questions I can come up with about your site. And most of them start with Why? Just seems like a lot of trouble and expense. Not to mention the black eye. Like I said…Why? I guess in the end when the dust settles, you are still laughing all the way to the bank.

And then what? Rinse…and Repeat? Angela Jones maybe?

Carl Cash

so, im a college student looking to make some quick cash. stumble upon angel’s website and was sold, almost. opened another tab, googled her name, and read all of this. thank God! if it seems to good to be true, it probably is!

Teri,

You are asking a lot of very good questions and making some really good observations. Great job of seeing through all of the smoke and mirrors put up by this Penbrook pageantry. And also seeing through the electronic internet camo this “Joseph Ashford” character is hiding behind. GREAT JOB! I just love it when the truth shines out.

He even told me I was getting a refund even though I have never given them a dime. You can read about in on the post I made on April 9th. Even went so far as to give me a confirmation number. It just proves the confirmation number is a huge hairy lie. I always thought a confirmation number was to confirm the validity of an action. But it is nothing more than another scam procedure designed to deceive the customer.

Need even more proof? It seems they only have one confirmation number to give out. Read how many people on this forum have all received the same number. But what do you expect when the trained customer service employee is reading a script from a piece of paper that only has one number to read off. You cant expect these people to think. They are only paid to read.

I have said it several times on this forum and I will say it one more time. I think the whole “Joseph Ashford” character is just another facade, just like Angela Penbrook. They do not exist as real individuals. I think “Joseph Ashford’s” stories are phony baloney. It is nothing more than an elaborate cat and mouse game. And it even includes a cheesy ebook that is completely dried out and useless for anything more than filling yesterday’s trash pick up.

However, I do think the real individual behind “Joseph Ashford” has more to do with this dog and pony show than he is letting on. The only way all of your questions and observations, as well as the the many others that have been brought up previously can or will make any sense is this…and you can weigh this against everything that has been written about this bogus little offer on this forum:

Angela Penbrook and Joseph Ashford are only fronts of the same person. Some would call these pseudonyms or pen names. Others just refer to them as code names to track or monitor traffic flow.

And that person is the one who is afraid to come clean with their real name. That person is the one who is “in charge” of refunds. And that person is the one who is starting to feel the pressure of all the bad publicity coming down around them. And now they are even beginning to “negotiate” refunds. WHAT? Since when does a 100% satisfaction guarantee translate into “let’s make a deal” for half the money?

PLEEEEEZZZZE. Come on “Joseph Ashford” or whatever your name is! I know you are watching and reading this. You have already proven that. When are you going to stop with the shifty eyed, bait and switch, circus side show tactics?

And you have the nerve to accuse me on May 6th of this forum of “belittling the competition” by what I have written about your offer? It is disturbingly amusing that you could possibly think you could even remotely be considered competition. You are pathetic in mildest terms. And you do nothing but complete disservice to the entire “work from home” industry.

You remind me of a snake oil sales man who could care less about what is in the bottle, as long as you can convince someone to give you a buck for it long enough for you to sneak out the back way like a snake in the grass, and race your little covered wagon onto the next town before someone catches on to your perpetual scam.

But I have to hand it to you. What I wrote about the perceived value of your offer on May 17th must have made an impression. Afterall you are at least offering a 50% discount if your customer will agree to keep it instead of asking for a full refund as Teri pointed out on May 19th. You just need to remember to change the wording on your guarantee from “100% full” to “50% negotiated”.

Once again folks. Do not walk…RUN to your bank or credit card provider and dispute the charge as soon as possible. Do not wait for “Joseph Ashford”, “Angela Penbrook” or anyone else about this. You only have a limited amount of time before your refund window closes. Do not allow them keep “buying time” until you are out of time to sell. The sooner you dispute the charge, the more time you will have to see it through.

All you have to do is read some of the posts on this forum to see the facts about this offer.

Right “Joseph Ashford”? But who am I to be talking about refunds. You are the expert.

Oh, now he runs like a scared little child after a few valid points have been made.
Could it be that it’s getting harder and harder to come up with new stories?
Just so everyone knows how full of –it he is, I am coming back to post everyday to let you know that I have NOT received a refund or a CHECK, as he promised, within 7 days. Today is day #8.
Should Penbrook productions make good on their promise and refund my money before the bank does, I will come back and eat my words, but I won’t be holding my breath.

I recently talked to Mr. Ashford about recieving a refund and he stated that I would recieve a check in two weeks now he’s saying that he dosen’t know when I will recieve my money so I just made A complaint about it with my bank and it turns out they are already investigating Mr.Ashford’s company due to getting so many complaints about his company and their lack of refunds.Run joseph run they coming for yo motherfucking ass.

I did get my money back in exactly 3 days after disputing the charge with my bank. I filled out a fraud from, wrote a written statement, including website links such as this, included my e-mail to Penbrook productions requesting a refund and the return e-mail I got from Joseph A–hole. They had no problem returning my money after looking at the documentation.
I cannot stress enough that if you wait for Penbrook to return your money it will never happen. Just dispute it immediately with your bank. Good luck to all.

Melissa, you’re welcome. We’re proud to have helped. Buy your hard working husband a massage instead.

I guess all those refunds are making them look for new victims in a hurry. Today I received an e-mail in my spam folder from LifeScript, and guess what they were sendining it was the “Daily Deal” “How to earn money from home” I opened it just out of curriosoty and its Angel Stevens’ page ProcessAtHome.com and I better Hurry there are only 2 possitions left in my area!!!

I had never done anything like this before and I felt so stupid because I couldn’t get it going. I was under the impression that, “anyone could do this”, so I was determined to keep at it. It made me feel stupid that I couldn’t get it going. I have a college degree and I am a professional.
I began to suspect the legitimacy of this after all of the bad grammar and misspelling I found in the materials. When I e-mailed for support, the answers seemed automated and only vaguely applied to my concerns. The support numbers kept changing and I never was able to contact Angela “personally” as was offered. I once was reassured that support was available from 9-5 PST and then in another message they were available from 9-5 EST.

Below is a typical message I received from “support”.
“Hi,
Sorry for the inconvenience.
But, we would like to inform you that our phone line is working properly.So please try after some time.
The first number we want you to have is: *Level 1 Support: 1-800-381-7820 press 1 – this number is for your One-Time 1 on 1 consultation, you can give your Level 1 Support a call as soon as you want, and they will help you learn how you can get a Fast Start with your program!
The second number we want to make SURE you have is: *Level II Coaching and Support: 1-800-381-7820 press 2 – once you’ve had your initial Level I consultation, you’ll graduate to Level II Support, where you’ll receive help with all your ongoing questions on the program and how to work it.
If you have trouble reaching us during our normal business hours, just email us at support@processathome.com and let us know that you need support to call you back, and put the best time and your contact number in the email to save time. This way we can get back to you as SOON as possible!!!
Time 9 – 5 PST in working days Monday to Friday.
Thanks !
Alice (I work with Angel)”

I too am merely days away from my refund.

Hello Everyone,

Just got back from a trip to Colorado. Had a great time. But could not help thinking about what was going on here. I could not help but nearly roll out on the floor with hysterical laughter over what Joseph Ashford had to say on May 20. Is this person real??? (I think we have already determined that)

Joseph, now you are acting like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum. Man, just grow up, do your job, stop spreading your cancerous lies, and for Heavens sake, stop trying to scam people. How much more, obvious writing on the wall, do you need, to see what is as plain as the nose on your face.

Just look at the posts from just the last 7 days. Stella wrote that even her bank is already checking you out, Melissa wrote that your company is responsible for sending “Scam Mail”. Hey, I just realized, your company has created a new kind of mail. There is spam mail, and now, thanks to Angela Pebrook-Stevens we now have “scam mail”. Teri wrote that she finally gave up on your worthless lies and went to her bank. Refund followed 3 days later.

It just goes on and on. I have said it once Joseph and I will say it again. What do you want? Guns or roses!!! To be shot at or have roses thrown your way. If you would have just done the right thing, Jim would have sent you roses on May 22. Instead… you got shot at.

The sad thing is we know you can do it. Ric on the 24th proves you can do it every once in awhile.

Once again though the credit goes to Joe for setting this forum up. I have no doubt in my mind that if it had not been for this thread, the heat would not have been near hot enough.

And a grand tip of the hat to all of you who have taken the time to “voice” your experience here for the whole world to see. There is no way of knowing how many people you have actually saved from having their hard earned money stripped from them.

Carl Cash

Yes I am another one who been scam by this female,
who was so poor at one time!!!!!!!
I am collecting her e-mails, i will need a large box to keep them in soon.
but she is not going to get away with it from me, every e-mail that i answer of hers, i write refund
refund. company process the cedit cards
http://www.ESLR8.com i did have the phone number but miss placed it.
I would love to see on T.V Judge Judy show
a few millon would also see her, for what she is
peggy

I was scammed by these folks as well. The newest customer service phone number is 1-800-381-7820.(as of 5/22/08) I have continued to be told that my money would be refunded within 5-7 business days since 4/23/08. Make sure you get a refund confirmation # starting with 2 alpha followed by 8 numeric digits. I had been given (had to ask for it) a conf # back on 4/23/08 and was given a fake number. The reps hardly speak english and use that against you in order to give as little info as possible. I am still waiting for my refund and am now going to contact my credit card company.

Hi again from Joyce,
Just wanted to note something from one of the recent posts.
Supposedly Penbrook Productions used Esellerate for payment processing. When I realized that I had been taken, I sent Esellerate an email with all my information, transaction #, etc.
and they wrote back that they do not handle any transactions for Penbrook Productions and that my information was not in any of their records. Then, I jumped over to the credit card company,
online and with written letters with all my info. Then it was taken care of. They worked we me and credited my account. I never found out if Esellerate was being truthful with me or not. So I say, beware of Esellerate, and go with your credit card company. They allow you to refute the credit and there is a reason for that. They know people get taken advantage of by others who are dishonest.
Thanks for everyone’s input, and hope all of you eventually get
all your funds returned.
Take Care,
Joyce

Man, I feel like a fool

I fell for this stupid crap, I wish I had found this site before I paid 197 dollars for this fraud. I have talked to the people at visa and they said I have to cancel my card and then get a new one which is going to be a big hassel. The one that I bought was from Angel Stevens. I should have followed my feelings, dammit I am pissed. I have a legitimate business on the web and thought it would be nice to have something to do in my spare time. What an idiot. I have started a blog on blogger.com about this rip off. I hate to think what I would do to this bitch if I ever caught her on the street. sorry for the language, I don’t know who I’m more pissed at her or myself.
Robert Jackson

ANGEL STEVENS IS A SCAM!!!

I signed up for this scam two months ago. After signing up they were supposed to send me a training module. Well they didnt so I had to e-mail them. No response.

Then i e-mailed them seven times in a row and i finally got a response the next day with the training module. Then it explained how i had to place ad’s on search engines for companies, then once I got people to buy the product I would “process their refund”.

I sent them an e-mail stating how angry I was and they said and I quote, “After you finished with the training, you will be provided with a list of companies to process rebates for that will pay between $15-$50 per rebate.”

Anyone who wants this e-mail I will be happy to forward it to you. Any lawyers out there, please CALL ME 847 767 8462. LookN2MyBluStars at AOL PLEASE E-MAIL ME I WILL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

Well it is now two months later and I have yet to receive the LIST OF COMPANIES. I called customer service 5 times today. One person was able to pull up my account and another one was not. Of the two people who were able to pull up my account said they would send me that information and I have YET TO RECEIVE IT.

PLEASE CALL ME ANYONE to get a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT going against this person.

Tina Marie
847 767 8462

Hello, Cath here again. Sorry, I forgot to mention that I emailed them simply by replying to their Week 3 training package email. I didn’t try to phone them as you can imagine how expensive international phone calls are! They definitely read their emails – I’m proof of that. I didn’t want to send a nasty email like I did but realised I only had one shot to get their attention (and my money back) – and I certainly did! I really hope this helps someone, Cath

Thanks for the info, Cathy, and congratulations.

I must have gotten the right person my rebate was put back in my account today June 11. I called the 800 number.

Hi to Joe and Steve,
This is Joyce checking back in again. You know, I posted I was scammed and got my funds back from refuting the charge with my CC company. Well, you will not believe this—-thought this matter was finished, gave the CC Co. everything they asked for, and they gave me a conditional refund. Two days ago I got a letter again from my CC Co. and they informed me that “they removed the conditional credit because the merchant’s cancellation/return policy was not followed.” They recharged my CC for the $197 and to add insult to injury, they threatened me that if I did not pay that charge they would report my account as deliquent to the 3 credit reporting bureaus, and they listed all of them with their respective addresses, phone numbers, etc.
I was in shock, and then so furious that I could hardly see to type back a reply. I asked them “just who they thought they were, and how dare they try to threaten to report my account to those bureaus.” I said ” how can I follow the merchant’s policy when the merchant REFUSED to answer my emails and phone calls.”
Then I told them “I wanted to see proof immediately of their contacts with Penbrook Productions, and if they did not provide me with that info then I was going to turn the whole thing over to the BBB online and offline and whatever other legal agencies I can find, and their company’s treatment of this matter would also be included in along with the fraud perpetrated by Penbrook Productions.” I said “you may think you have finished with this matter, but you are sadly mistaken, you will be hearing from me for a very long time about this.” UNBELIEVABLE!!! I am the victim and being treated as if I did something wrong. I think they went after Penbrook and hit a “brick wall” just as everyone else did, got tired of it, and dumped it back in my lap.
Does anyone know for sure who Penbrook’s ecommerce provider is?
I never got a receipt, just the charge on my card with a number and Penbrook. Esellerate says they are not her merchant, as does Click and Buy. Any other suggestions??? Now I have to fight this all over again along with a huge credit card company, and the 90 days just passed last week!!!
Any suggestions would be appreciated.Hope this does not happen to anyone else!
Joyce

I’m a Penbrook Victom as well and as I receive amo to fight them I will pass it on to all who have been victomized. I went to 7onyourside.com the ABC consumer help line seen on TV and they have agreed to take my complaint and are investigating the Penbrook Scam! You can also make your report too just go to 7onyourside.com or to the official website for ABC and type in consumer help. The representitive that is assisting me gave me some helpful advice as well. Go to the http://www.ic3.gov website(Internet Crime site). She said to call your areas District Attorneys Office, and to write the Attorny Generals Office as well. Don’t give up we have got to fight back to protect others!

Diana

I fell for this scam and I have sent dozens of e-mails back and forth with them. I would LOVE TO SHOW EVERYONE WHAT THEY SAY TO ME when I tell them i think they are scamming me. PLEASE E-MAIL ME and I will send you all the e-mails I received as well as all the e-mails I sent to them detailing every aspect of their web site that proved to be false and them e-mailing me back with their invalid comments. They finally issued me a refund and if you look closely at the web site, they offer a “DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GAURENTEE” so I keep trying to e-mail them to honor that gaurenttee and they have not yet replied to my e-mail. Its as if that since they gave me my money back, they dont have to respond to me anymore.

And I cant call them because the number they provided to call is a customer service call center that they hired so they dont work directly with them and its a hassle to talk with them because they ask for all of your information to verify you have an account with ProcessAtHome before they even answer any of your questions. And since they gave me my money back, I dont have an account so I cant even CALL them to harrass them.

BUT ANYONE WHO IS OUT THERE WILLING TO FILE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT ON THEM PLEASE CONTACT ME LookN2MyBluStars at aol

Tina

BTW, If anyone wants the addresses to the Lessons, contact me. At least you’ll get something for your money.

UP DATE, I canceled my account with Angel Stevens today, and I didn’t have to wait the 3 to 5 days for my money, they put it back in my paypal account a few mintues ago. But I did email her pravite gmail and told who ever reads there mail that they took my money the same day as I sent it and I wanted it back today. I also told them that if I didn’t have it today, I was going to call my lawyer and they could deal with her.
ANGEL STEVENS IS A SCAM, DON’T FALL FOR THIS!!!!!!

Diana, this is the last e-mail address that I received angel@processathome.com, however I always got an answer from one of many of her assistants.