Review of My Power Mall: Where’s the Power?

We’ve had several requests to review My Power Mall, so they must be doing something right because they’re generating quite a buzz.

ExcellentMy Power Mall (MPM) is based on a very old and familiar formula: buy things from “yourself” so you get a piece of the action, then recruit others to do the same. Sound familiar? We saw that principle at work in Smartbusinessformula.com, and it was the mantra when I was in Amway many years ago. The logic went like this: “Hey, you own the store, so wouldn’t you rather buy from yourself than make Sam Walton rich by shopping at Wal-Mart?” MPM uses the same rhetoric. When you sign up, which is free, you become the “owner” of your very own “Power Mall,” which is a large collection of someone else’s affiliate links. This is a very important point I’ll say more about below. Take a look at I’ve Tried That’s Power Mall here. (Hurry; it won’t be up for long. They’ll probably shut us down when they read this review.) As you can see, there is a large selection of stores and products (look at the categories down the left side).

According to the information in the members’ area, you make even more money by referring people. My Power Mall, the company, founded by a woman named Ginny Dye, earns a commission from each of your purchases, then kicks back part of the commission to you. That’s why they want you to succeed and recruit the population of China. You can fill up to 9 levels of Power Malls in your downline, each with 100 people, each of whom refer 100 people, all of whom will buy their daily stuff at their My Power Malls, and you get a piece of all that action! You’ll soon be rich! I don’t pretend to understand the downline system because there’s no need to—they lost me at step 1: buy your stuff from your own Power Mall.

The problem with “buying from yourself”
In my experience, every time someone has told me to buy from myself, they wanted to sell me something first. So you’ll excuse my pessimism. There are two problems with this approach: (1) don’t be stupid—you don’t really “own the store.” You are a commission-based salesperson selling overpriced stuff to yourself. (2) You have to buy your products and convince lots of other people to sign up for MPM and buy their products. And where do you think that commission comes from? Out of corporate profits? No. It comes from the consumer (that would be you) in the form of artificially inflated prices. There’s the clincher. Steve and I can’t find a reason to buy anything from our shiny new mall.

Is there something shady going on?
Well, not exactly. It’s not a scam because you aren’t being asked to pay money directly or dishonestly. What you are being asked to do is buy everything from the Ginny Dye’s affiliate links; she then returns a portion of the commission to you. In that sense every “Power Mall” is Ginny’s. Every Power Mall “owner” has the exact same store because they’re all her affiliate links. Retailers don’t let affiliates purchase for themselves through their own links, so the links in your mall have to be someone else’s: they’re Ginny’s.

You can see this is true by looking at the promised commissions, Buy.com’s affiliate program (unrelated to MPM) offers 3-10% commission, depending on purchases. But Ginny, the founder of My Power Mall is only offering “UP TO” 7% commission for Buy.com purchases. Gap.com offers 4-6% back, but at most you can get “up to” 4.2% back through MPM. And the list continues:

  • Old Navy: 4% through their affiliate program, 2.8% through MPM
  • Boscov’s: 5% normally, 3.5% through MPM
  • Bidz.com: 10% normally, “up to” 7% at MPM
  • and on, and on, and on

Why would anyone buy from My Power Mall?
I might not be the ideal target customer because I hate to shop. I’m not one to go wander around in a store and just look to see if something catches my fancy. When I go into a store, I know exactly what I want, how much it costs, and ideally, where it’s located in the store. If I can’t be in and out in five minutes, I start to get panicky. I’ve been known to burst out of emergency exits, screaming and setting off alarms. MPM has an impressive array of stores and products; you can buy 99% of everything you’d ever want there. The problem is price. I logged on and shopped for a few things I’ll be buying in the near future. Here’s what I found:

Product MPM Price Other Retailer Price
HP ink cartridge 21 $12.95
+ $4.95 shipping
- $2.71 commission
= $15.19
$14.99 @ OfficeMax
Boys Adrift, by Leonard Sax $20 via Barnes & Noble
+$4 shipping
- 0.28 commission
= $23.72
$14.48 @ half.com
+ $4 shipping
= $18.48
Western Digital 250Gig external hard drive $119 via Circuit City
+$7.20 sales tax
- 2.49 commission
= $123.71
$79.99 @ Newegg.com
+ $7.81 shipping
= $87.80

These price comparisons are actually generous because the commission comes back to you later in the form of a check from My Power Mall, not as a discount at the time of purchase. I’ve done some stupid things in my financial history, but paying $40 more than I have to in the hopes of getting part of that back later is not one of them.

Miss Spamalot
I signed up for My Power Mall on Aug 25. Between the time I signed up and the writing of this post on Aug 29, I have received 9 email messages from My Power Mall! Oh, I realize they’re trying to help me “succeed,” but fer cryin’ out loud, Ginny, it’s not like we’re married or somethin’. I’m just not feelin’ you like that, you know? I’m sorry, but it’s you, not me.

Good intentions? Maybe, but still a waste of time
The only way you’re going to make money with My Power Mall is if you have a full downline and everyone in it buys their stuff at their Power Mall. But as I’ve said, there’s no incentive to do that because the prices suck once you pay for shipping. And while you’re building your downline, you’ll be paying a premium price for everything. It’s a sustainable business model only for those that own the company and get a small cut of everyone’s efforts.

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681 Responses to “Review of My Power Mall: Where’s the Power?”

  1. The price: that’s the main reason I didn’t join MPM also. My first impression was: Yes! I can buy everything online from now on and make money from it. Then I check the prices of daily-use items and they are way over-priced from Target or other local stores. I didn’t even add in the shipping yet.

    With mypoint.com, I really liked it because there were so many opportunitiess to earn points. I am having a lot of trouble with their bonusmail though. If I register with their merchant/advertiser through bonusmail, sometimes, I don’t get credited. I’m still trying to figure out how to get credited through bonusmail. Also, with MyPoints, it looks like most (if not all) stuff requires 30 days pending period.

  2. There are not very many good alternatives to the type of program MPM tries to be. None that I’m aware of, in fact. Speak up if you find one, Julia!

  3. That was too hash Joe! (smile in my face and a knife in my hand)

    Please, you cannot compare this with Amway. You don’t buy from yourself, it’s more like Ebay affiliate.

    There are a lot of underpriced Stores, but I recognize not all.

    Drugstore.com is the most popular. Moreover, this is free forever. Better than DHS or Mistery Sh.

    You are evil Joe. :)

  4. Linda, if you’ve never been in Amway, or more accurately, one of the “motivational organizations” associated with them, you don’t know how much they’re alike. Maybe not the pay structure or the business model, but the sales materials and Rah-Rah! success rhetoric is all the same.

  5. I did read the ebook “Merchants of Deception”. There is no Motivational Org here…

    You don’t buy trainig programs
    You are not pushed by a Social environment

    I understand what you mean with Rah-Rah! but look, they are compelled to be motivators.

    You must have noticed that no one is telling “be millionaire like me” and making hypes all over like in Amway.

    This is unfair, you joined Agloco and you weren’t that harsh for such an unclear business.

  6. There is no sales materials (?)

  7. All valid points, Linda. You don’t have to buy any motivational crap (it sounds like you know what you’re talking about after reading Merchants of Deception), and there’s no social pressure. In that sense, you’re right that the comparison is a bad one. They use the same rhetoric is all I’m saying.

    I didn’t write the Agloco review. And since joining Agloco, I’ve received one or two emails from them…in MONTHS. There’s nothing like spam to get me on a program’s bad side.

  8. Merchants Or Deception, I loved the book so much. You could make a review of it, I went around recommending your site for John Chow’s review. Also, I go around recommending MOD book.

    as for MPM, the spamming you call is very valuable for us that are building it. When join Personal Mall -wich is for final-client- you would receive Stores updates only (wich of course can be blocked).

    I still love you Joe. And I thank you for your review no matter it was harsh. This site will maintain credibility as you remain honest to your beliefs and points of view.

  9. Hello Joe,

    Wow! You sound like you had a bad day.

    I don’t shop for anything I don’t need. I don’t have to sign up for services or pay anything to review a product and I don’t have to join some kind of a fee abased membership program in order to get paid.

    And I most certainly don’t shop online if I can find a better deal at local stores. Which, I am not required to do so with MPM.

    But there are many options in which you can buy things that are much better priced online than in a store or in person. Such as airline tickets, hotel rooms, car rentals, etc. Come on, who buys airline tickets at the airport?

    You forgot to mention in your review, about the debit card. You don’t have to buy store items. Very soon you will be able to purchase a debit card through your mall. So you won’t have to shop on your My Power Mall stores in order to earn money.
    .
    You will earn commission on your debit card.
    You can buy gas, milk, pay bills and whatever else and still make your profits with your MPM debit card.

    Remember this is a new company. And buy the way, Ginny dye is actually quite nice.

    Reg

  10. Hi Joe,

    I woke up at 3:00 AM to honor Labor Day by laboring for the 39,000+ people who have joined us since March 19th when we launched. One of my members sent me your post, incensed that you would say what you did. I read it and smiled. :) Not because I’m glad you’re unhappy, but because I realize it is not possible to make everyone happy and because no matter what I do someone isn’t going to like it. I’ve decided to accept that and just keep moving forward - trying to create the best business opportunity possible. I just appreciate honest dialogue so I thought I would share some… :) Oh, and by-the-way, I didn’t go in a shut your Mall down. :) Everyone is entitled to their opinion and who knows - you might change yours in time.

    Do we have improvements to make? My gosh, yes. Will we make changes? Of course. I listen to my members every day and keep working to make it better. In the interest of fairness, however, let me respond to some of your points:

    1)You say that people can make more money if they just get their own Affiliate links. Is that true? Of course it is! The issue becomes, how many people are actually able to create a Mall that has over 1000 stores in it? Not many. How many people have the ability to create a system that will give everyone the training they need and give them access to every thing My Power Mall has? The only people who make real money with their own Affiliate Marketing are those people who are pros in E-Commerce, website development, Search Engine optimization, and other things that the average person simply won’t be able to succeed at. We do all that for you, and then GIVE you the system.

    Does My Power Mall keep a % of every purchase made? Of course we do. How else do you think we could offer a Free Mall? :) The % we keep pays for our systems, Free Malls for our members (currently 39,000+ and growing about 500 a day), the 60+ people who keep it going, the One-Child-At-A-Time Foundation and the Together We Can Change the World Foundation. I hate to disappoint you, but by the time I have taken care of everything I keep a very tiny %. I happen to believe that a company should make money WITH their members, not from them. Will I eventually make a lot of money. I hope so.:) I have 3 Foundations of my own that I am building in order to help make things better. The key, however, is that I can’t make money until I am FIRST helping a lot of other people make a lot of money. For me, it’s the right way to do business.

    One thing you didn’t mention is that My Power Mall is just one part of my company called Together We Can Change The World, Inc. Ahh… you probably didn’t read enough to know that because you got so angry with the SPAM. :) Come on, Joe… SPAM? You signed up for a company and gave me your email address. I even include an Unsubscribe link at the bottom of each one so you can stop receiving them any time you want to. The thing is… I have members who love to receive them and look forward to them. I’ll keep writing to them, and not be offended if you don’t care for me and choose to delete me from your life. :)

    10 years ago I wrote down what I wanted my life to be… I want to empower others to fly to their dreams and then give them a way to do it. I truly believe My Power Mall is the answer. It’s okay that you don’t… :) Do I try to motivate people? Of course. Most of us need some motivation when the world is spewing negative stuff at us all the time. I know I do; so I try to share it with the people who are building my company. I make no apologies for trying to be a bright spot in their lives. :)

    Now, let’s address the comment about artificial over-inflated prices. The key thing here is that there is not one thing on My Power Mall that belongs to us. We are simply a portal for 1000+ (over 1100 right now)Merchants like Sears, Eddie Bauer, Lands End, Ink Jets, ShoeBuy.com, and on and on. Is everything a great deal? Of course not. The websites belong to each merchant but as consumers we all have the right to ferret out great deals.

    Though I could send you tons of testimonials on great deals, I’ll just stick with my own:

    - I needed some deck furniture this summer and had done some shopping around in the Mall and locally - just to see what people had. What I wanted was going to cost me about $1000. I found what I wanted on my Mall through Home Depot. I got 40% off and FREE shipping. Instead of $1000, I paid $600 and had UPS bring it directly to my house - saving me a lot of time and a lot of money. Plus, I made a % back. Cool!

    - I buy Ink Cartridges all the time. I roamed around in my Mall. I could have bought them through Office Max, but instead I went through MrInkMan because I got them at 50% off, got FREE shipping, and didn’t pay any tax. Not to mention, I received 22% back!

    - I used to traipse to the Mall to Eddie Bauer. Then, most of their retail locations disappeared, mine included. No problem. They are on my Mall. I can still buy my clothes, I can wait for the sales, I can have it shipped directly to me, and I make money every time.

    - One more. I needed some luggage for a trip I was making. I went to Overstock.com and bought a $500 set of luggage for $210. I paid $1 for shipping and it was delivered to me by a chained UPS truck in the middle of a snowstorm. AND I made money back. Sweet!

    I could keep going, but I think you can see my point. The reason for 1000+ stores is so that smart consumers can find the very best deal, save time & money, get things delivered directly to them, AND make money.

    Oh, and if you still need the Western Digital 250Gig external hard drive you were looking for - try Tiger Direct on the Mall. Instead of the $79 you were looking at, you can buy it for $74.00 - and make some money back. :) Just trying to help out… :)

    Sure, it takes a lot of people buying to make money. I have never touted My Power Mall as a get-rich-quick scheme. It is a business - one that will take time to build. We do, however, give people all the tools they will need to build it, we run contests to reward buying, AND we have a whole team of people who do nothing but look for the best deals on My Power Mall.

    Are we perfect? Of course not - no business is. Would I rather make money and have the chance to build a large team of people who can generate residual income, over gaining points through MyPoints.com? Well, yes, but that’s just me. Everyone gets to make their own choice. :)

    And now, if you’ll please excuse me, I have some work to do to make My Power Mall even better for those people joining us every day. Thanks for allowing me to dialogue with you. If I can ever help you in any way, let me know.

    Have a beautiful day!

    Ginny

  11. Hi Ginny,
    Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to write a thorough reply. Hopefully our readers will benefit from the dialog and make the best possible choice for themselves.

    I think your best point was about the spam: I DID give you my email address, and you make it easy to opt out. And, as one of our other commenters noted, the emails are valuable for those actively trying to build their malls. So, though it’s very painful for me to say, I’m sorry for calling you Miss Spamalot.

  12. Ahhh… I respect anyone with the integrity to apologize! I forgive you for calling me Miss Spamalot - though the name does have a certain ring to it. :) I, too, hope readers will benefit from our dialogue.

    Have a great day!
    Ginny

  13. hehehe Joe!

    you got your beef?! you are evil. I didn’t call her, somebody else did.

    JoE!! you woke up a CEO with your second rated website!!

    that was a cheaty move! did you got your traffic rise? oh! please edit this post and be a little nicer!

    A JOKE FOR YOU:
    http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/Planets-MLM.jpg

    Here you can find great jokes about MLM. Great for review
    http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/cartoons.htm

  14. Thanks for the jokes, Linda. I’ll tell you what: I will happily revise this review when you show me substantial earnings from your My Power Mall. Fair? See? I’m not a mean guy: I’m motivating you.

  15. Joe,

    I think the “Instant Money Vault” is the same concept Ginny has been commenting on.

    I welcome your comments.

    Thanks.

    John

  16. Hey john

    HUH?

  17. Hey Ginny, How many people are getting a check every month ? I mean to say other than you and your cronies ?
    What percentage have you collected as the resulted of shopping you require from your members,in order to read the tips givin freely by other members ? They write the book and you profit from commission on sales? Now that’s what I call “Changing the world ” ! Changing Ginny’s world ? Bravo, Ms Humble do gooder !You’ve created the perfect system for you to get richer.
    I have a question , How much have you raised for these charities you run? what is your admin.cost to run these and who really makes money.
    These are my personal opinions ..So Take them at face value.. I think alot of her members are being lead by the nose .

  18. Hi Andrea,

    I’m going to step out on a limb here and anwer your questions, though I wonder if you already feel so badly about My Power Mall that it won’t do any good. I’m sorry for whatever caused you to have these feelings but you are certainly entitled to them. :)

    You ask how many members are getting checks every month. Hundreds. The number is more than doubling every month and the checks are getting larger. We are still a new company and it will take time to build, as the shopping builds, but the shopping is growing daily as more and more realize what great savings they can experience - as well as making money for every purchase they or their team makes.

    We are a not a get-rich quick business. We are a business where people can come, shop for what they are going to buy anyway, and build an impressive income along the way.

    I’m sorry you feel I am “charging” for 101 Ways To Promote My Power Mall”. All I’ve asked people to do is go buy something they are going to buy anyway - not give me money for a book. Just for the record, I have received comments from hundreds of people who are so grateful for this because it is directing people into their Mall so they can understand just how powerful it is and so that money is generated to EVERYONE!

    Though I know it’s hard for people to understand or believe, the people who built My Power Mall, only make money when all the members make A LOT of money FIRST. From the sound of your post you have been burned by a lot of companies or people. I’m sorry for that, but I do understand the feeling. :)

    As far as our Foundations, and the One-Child-At-A-Time Program; there are no adminstrative costs and all the money collected goes to children or to the programs we are supporting. I just made a commitment this week to handle all the costs to feed, clothe and school 70 children in a Uganda Orphanage. We will expand from there and help as many kids as we can.

    Am I leading my members by the nose? I guess only time will really tell that. I do know that no matter what I do, someone isn’t going to like it, or it will be taken the wrong way. I can accept that.

    I am sitting in the LA airport, just having attended a conference and also having 2 meetings where I was able to meet some of my members and thank them for what they are doing to help build My Power Mall and Together We Can Change The World. It was so exciting to hear about people building their business to help benefit Churches, Pregnancy Centers, Jewish Synagogues, Environmental Organizations, Animal Shelters and so much more.

    Is it just POSSIBLE that we really are who we say we are? Is it just POSSIBLE that there is finally a company committed to helping people succeed and also make a difference in the world? Again, only time will tell. I just ask you and those who read your post to keep an open mind and keep an eye on what we’re doing. If ever you feel differently we will welcome you into our Adventure to change the way business is done, as well as changing the world!

    Have a beautiful day!

    Ginny Dye
    MPM CEO/Founder

  19. Ginny’s quote not mine :
    As far as our Foundations, and the One-Child-At-A-Time Program; there are no adminstrative costs and all the money collected goes to children or to the programs we are supporting. I just made a commitment this week to handle all the costs to feed, clothe and school 70 children in a Uganda Orphanage. We will expand from there and help as many kids as we can.

    State of Washington’s Records , again not mine !
    I’ve only deleted her personal info .

    Together We Can Change The World, Inc.
    Mailing Address:

    BELLINGHAM WA 98229 Street Address:

    BELLINGHAM WA 98229
    Registration #21433

    Status Active
    Also Known As Name(s) One-Time Fundraising
    Shop For Charity Day

    Phone (360)7
    Fax (360)75
    Email ginnydye@
    Web Site http://www.shopforcharityday.com/
    Federal EIN 20-2531364

    Contributions $7,540 According to the financial information shown at left, 70% of the contributions raised by this organization were returned to or retained by the charity client(s).

    Amount to Charity Clients $5,278

    ……………………………………

    I wonder where the other 30 % went? or roughly $2300.00. It was administration fees though!

    ………………………………………. And btw….hundreds getting checks ? I find that hard to believe .. your own top 50 club doesn’t have the numbers to support that claim nor does your Big” spenders list..
    So my dear ..You have a beautiful day as well!
    Beware folks !
    I myself am not bitter , but when folks are being led to believe things that aren’t what they seem…well I get upset. This lady in my opinion has to many years of MLM experience,not to be able to fast talk anyone.

  20. Sigh… I tried, Andrea, but I really knew not to try and reason with you because you have already made up your mind. I could rebut what you have said because you are forming your arguments around misunderstood facts,and we could continue this dialogue but I know it would only serve to upset you more so I’m going to bow out now.

    I have no desire to fast talk, nor do I engage in it. I will let all my members form their own opinions based on what they see happening, or not happening, in the company. In the end, anyone can join us (because it’s free), or anyone can leave us. They, and you, have nothing but my best wishes.

    Blessings to you, Andrea!

    Ginny Dye
    CEO/Founder
    My Power Mall

  21. oh sigh…….poor Ginny..you’ve been called to the mat. and have no explanation.. I was blessed before you came along and will be long after the world see thru your wolf in sheep’s clothing act. Beware folks beware.
    Don’t let these people pray on those only looking to get ahead. These people have mislead people all along..As is the case with Ms MLM ,now do-gooder ginny.
    I’ve said my piece.. Beware. And the truth will set you free.

  22. It’s site claims that MPM isn’t a MLM and according to the legal definition it probably isn’t. In fact it’s a pyramid scheme. Precise definitions are hard to come by. It’s interesting to note that the levels of MPM only go to level 9. By level 11 the number of participants exceeds the population of the U.S. At level 13 it’s more than the world’s population. It’s simply unsustainable and the only ones who profit are the ones who start it.

    Refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

  23. Give Ginny Time Chris, I’m sure she’ll tell you it isn’t a Pyramid because it’s “free” . lol
    But what do I know ..I just get sighs and little smiley faces.
    These groups will be watched very closely, and should be. I’m also sure Ginny won’t be posting your numbers on her site anytime soon either.

  24. I’m not a member of the MPM and I don’t think MPM is a place to make big money. I don’t shop online much also (that’s why I didn’t join). But if I DO shop online, I like to get rebate/coupons/discount. If it’s through MPM, mypoints.com, discover card rebate, chase credit card rebate, or any other ways, I wouldn’t mind. About the charity claim, in general, I still think donating directly to the charity is better than going through another organization (like MPM). But I guess the charity claim is one way that many companies want to encourage consumers to shop at their place instead of their competitor and to show how they “care” about society and do their social duty (sorry, forgot the correct business term. so much for an MBA degree.)

  25. I’m not a member either. But it does look very much like a pyramid. I looked at the business movie and saw nothing to get excited about. The stores were fine, but the prices are still better at wal mart, or even buying directly from some of the stores with out the middle man involved.. I saw on the site also where they claim over 44,000 people /members. If they have that many and are only writing checks out to hundreds….that isn’t very good is it? I mean what about the other 43,800 people? thanks for the heads up Joe, Raven

  26. hi guys,

    I am a member of MPM.

    Let me ask you this what is a pyramid?

    Yeah you do have to work to build your business. But hello, you are giving away a free business. A FREE BUSINESS!

    I think that you will never reach your goals based on opinions.

    Doesn’t matter what company, program, org etc. you join.

    If you think negative then guess what?

    If you want to fight, argue and complain then guess what?

    Why would anyone complain about a company that charges you $0 to own your own online business forever?

    Don’t be so quick to act as an expert unless you have what it takes to back it up.

    Ginny is right, you can’t please everyone.

    Some people just luv an argument.

    I like the fact that you express yourself, But come on people…..

  27. I don’t really understand how everyone considers a collection of someone else’s affiliate links a ‘business.’ I’m going to join MPM and try and get a bank loan for my business. I think it will go really well.

  28. Keep thinking that way Reg, I’m sure Ginny is proud. You don’t own anything. She’s offered you the opportunity to shop, spend money and she profits ! Who’s slice of the pie would you like more . her’s or your’s .Sure she started the company, to make money for herself. You can join CJ too. Bottom line. She collects a % off of every sale. Why do you think she and her pals only need 10 or 15 people in their frontline s for ? If and when you make $25.00 in commission, she’ll tack on a $3.00 fee to send you her check. Why because ,she makes more then if she let paypal handle the payments.
    Go to Commission Junction. Read how things really work. She was in So. Cal at the cj university to see how she could get even more. Be real.
    Where is the celeb she was getting to Help promote the site ? What happened to grocery cards, TV and radio ads, Whats going on with the debit card where she’ll get a percentage as well. What happened to 100.000 members by Sept. Wake up and smell the coffee. Do you really think I care about people like her / no way,,But if we can educate people like you from being blind with false hope ,Your darn right I’ll keep pushing her ! She has a MLM background,,she’s a pro at spinning things her way. She only gets a small bite ? when your biting into a dinosaur, even the smallest bite is huge! She said it .a couple hundred checks go out. You involved with over 45,000 people . Those percentages suck! new business or not ..If your on a lower rung..you lose!

  29. Your all getting upset about nothing. People generally sign up for these things, realize after awhile they aren’t making anything and quit on their own. When people got to wait for the money, get the run around and get fed a lotta cr#p, they wise up on their own. let it go……. You’ll never talk some of these people out of the hunt for easy money. Let it go lads and ladies.After they invest either time ,or money and see no or little return ,maybe even the thick minded will see the facts. I myself would have like to hear what she said about the charity biz. She never did respond. But this debate is fruitless ,some will never except help!

  30. Joe, bless your heart. You’ve saved me a ton of time. I can just link to your article instead of trying to explain, over and over, that the members cannot, collectively, make money when they have to shop to put the money in. Great article.

    I’d also like to point out that the bottom of the Powermall site says:

    “Registered with the Better Business Bureau”

    First, the text is formatted to look like a link, but it isn’t a link. Second, MPM is NOT a member of the BBB. I think the fuzzy use of the term “registered” is intentionally deceptive to provide undeserved credibility.

    That said, I do fairly well in affiliate marketing from my content websites. Most of my income in this arena comes from Amazon, CJ, and LinkShare. I have never seen a price difference on ANY of these sites by going through an affiliate link. So if I AM going to buy something at Buy.com, it doesn’t hurt me to use the affiliate link. Sometimes, too, the link has a special offer landing page like free shipping or something.

    So, I’d say ***IF*** you are buying something from a particular online store anyway, it does no harm to USE an affiliate to get there.

  31. Ginny, I know that you’ve given up on Andrea and others, but I wonder if you would take the time to accurately answer the concerns they have raised? I’m very interested in My Power Mall, and my goal is an extra $200 a month (not looking to get rich), but I would like to know the answers to the issues raised here. You did an excellent job of answering the first round of questions!

    Thanks in advance for your time.

  32. Billy ,If your looking for an extra few bucks a month, just keep checking the reviews of people who’ve actually tried them . This site alone has made some kool selections . I’d rather trust somebody who’s been there. Joe has posted some pretty direct recommandations. Have ya checked them out ? The key is research. And thanks for the bbb tip Alison.
    If she’s waited this long withouta response , let it go ya’ll . Move on .lol

  33. Hi guys,
    I’m gonna just say this. yous guys is arguing an she’s sittin back. Ain’t it strange, not one of her peeps have said how much they was makin? If any of hers ,hit the screen with some actual proof that they’re making stratch.hell .I’d be on that Sh*t quick. I got people in Fla. anyone lookin for some nice property?
    i’m out , Tino B

  34. Wow! I have so much to learn! Thanks for the invaluable forum for sharing information and personal experiences about online “work” and “business opportunities.” I am looking for real, legitimate data entry work and therefore will try the sites you listed. I will be happy to report my results.

  35. Why is it , that when the questions get tough or uncomfortable, the people that operate these “businesses” throw up their hands and say nothing like we all are pitiful? I salute you all for posing the tough questions. To bad The women never gave a definitive answer. But then again she didn’t lie when she said she was going to “give us the Business” did she ? Oh wait , she said “our own business.” Good thing she wasn’t offering shares in a gold mine …

  36. When I saw MPW web site I also thought I would give it a try since it was free and no skin off my back. I do not blindly buy stuff without doing searches myself, so I figure…ok it’s free. If I find it elsewhere with better deal I will do so. If I find something unique at MPM that I can’t find in my little ol’ W. TX town then I will buy it and earn rebate.

    The part that made me stop was that I had to turn over my social security number without knowing first if I would earn enough for them to send me $$$ and therefore report earnings to IRS.
    I am so skiddish about turning over SS# with my name address, etc… no matter how secure they say the site is.
    Maybe other Home based business do this also but I just could not get over that. I mean…what if I bow out soon afterwards and decide it’s not right for me and I won’t really make much money anyway? I have just turned over the #1 most sought after personal ID for identity theft. I wish these companies would not collect that until you come within the $600 they have to report. I would at least feel a little better having had time with the company and see if I was going to turn it into a little side business. I just feel uneasy after paying out $10k to a lawyer a few years ago due to an identity theft I once had. That was a nightmare to untangle for sure!

    In fairness, I am not sure it is just MPM that has this practice of requiring SS# upfront. Am I correct?

  37. Hey, you don’t have to give your SS# anymore. MPM quit asking for that several months ago. Now you just need to give it to them once you have made over $500. They figure you will trust them by then and know MPM really works.

    I’ve been watching all this and was amazed when Ginny answered at all. I can promise you she isn’t dodging hard questions. She answers them every day in her daily updates. She’s just too busy to do everything! My Power Mall is growing so fast. 57,000 members in only 6 months! I’ve never seen anyone as committed to making a company great for all its members.

    I’ve been around for a few months and my team is growing every day. I got my first check last week. It wasn’t big but it was a start and I know it will just get bigger as my team grows. MPM isn’t a get rich quick thing but it’s for real and it was totally FREE for me to start. How can that not be a good thing?

    I bought all my kids school supplies and just bought their Halloween costumes. I lvoe shopping online because I’m just too busy to run to the Mall.

    I think everyone should get their own Mall. Why not? It’s FREE!

    Sandi

  38. Hi Sandi , Thanks for stepping forward.Just one question ok? If you were to lay out your Team tier by tier , would it resemble a pyramid ? next question , has to be , who earns more ? the guy o n the bottom ,or the ones on top of the pyramid? I’m suppose Ginny Dye is sitting on top. rightfully so , since she started the pyramid. How much time have you put in / how much return on your time ? I seen others say it’s a new company and all , but if I go to work tomorrow at a new grocery store ,I get paid for my work regardless. Also , I advise everyone of you supporting MPM to look into Commission Junction. If you check you’ll see where MPM gets the stores for the mall. Many stores offer a 10% commission. But Mpm is only splitting up about 7% among the 9 tiers. where do you suppose the other 3% is going ? Your also being told that it’s an advantage for you to get the Imedia package. I believe the monthly rate is $29.95. How much in sales will your need need to generate for you to earn enough in commissions for you to recoup that $29 ? The same holds true of the debit card. $10.00 initial fee plus $5 to reload . So next month you’ll be asked to spent $44.00 to promote Ginny Dyes list of affiliates and pyramid upon which she sit on top . If your comfortable with that , so be it.
    I’ll leave you with one last thought. out of the 50,000 + members , how many remain active ? I’d venture to say less then a third . Probably closer to 25%. You see ,I too was an excited member. Then I continued to do my homework, and after reading and re-evaluating ,discovered Ginny Dye as much as she profess to believe won’t have the numbers she was hoping for. She has already missed her mark badly of 100,000 by Sept.
    I wish you well, but I wonder if maybe your head is so filled with images that are really realistic, that your being blinded to the reality of it all. I’m afraid this bird doesn’t fly. If you want to make money , this site your on now recommends an ebook by John Chow. It’s free and it works. Irecommendit too.
    Best of luck.. and remember to look before you leap!
    Laura Bonner

  39. I checked out Commission Junction , Thanks Laura. I saw the numbers you were talkin about. Iapplied for an acct. ,But I think you need a web site that supports adverts.
    I don’t know what PM commisions are but , if you got to split them 9 ways, it seem like you’ll need mega membership before it works.
    ……………………………….
    I thought I saw some numbers posted here b’fore. I was right,
    quote:

    “It’s site claims that MPM isn’t a MLM and according to the legal definition it probably isn’t. In fact it’s a pyramid scheme. Precise definitions are hard to come by. It’s interesting to note that the levels of MPM only go to level 9. By level 11 the number of participants exceeds the population of the U.S. At level 13 it’s more than the world’s population. It’s simply unsustainable and the only ones who profit are the ones who start it.”

    Refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

    With those numbers do they think it will work more then like a few bucks here or there? I don’t think Trump has the “wait till my company grows up attitude and lets see.” As with any successful business, if it doesn’t produce , dump it ,start all over and move on .Maybe that’s what laura was saying about your bird not flying?
    The more you look at it with an open mind, it’s a dud.
    Tino

  40. Wow! I just have to say kudos to all of you that give these scammers a run for their money! It’s awesome to know that my belief that people are inherently good still stands true. I just hope that more people will be educated on these types of schemes… you know that saying “…a sucker born every minute.” Well, Ginny and her crew should make it part of their mantra.

    Raven took the words right out of my mouth when shes said, “She only gets a small bite ? when your biting into a dinosaur, even the smallest bite is huge!”
    I have a finance and sales background and it doesn’t take a large percentage to make big money. I know many of you mentioned that Ginny didn’t reach her goal of 100,000 (thank goodness:) But even her reaching that 40,000 mark is pretty significant… Let’s do the math, hypothetically- for all the non-believers and those still in it for the bucks, be it big or small.
    Let’s just say on a good day 30,000 people spent a $100 each on “their OWN website” and let’s just say Miss Dye’s SMALL percentage is a whopping 1% (which I highly doubt)…hmmm? 30,000×100= $3,000,000 x 1%,That’s a mere $30,000 in ONE DAY!! WOO HOO! But hey, of that she gives you a whole $220 Discount, not really COMMISSION, on all your hard efforts! Not to mention she’s traveling first class and emailing you on her $4,000 laptop, that her members paid for. Nice…

    And as Billy pleaded for Ginny to come back and add more of her smiley faces to defend this scheme… I plead that just ONE of her dedicated, “just want to make a LITTLE extra cash” business owners, tell me the chances of their so called downline bringing them that much cash in ONE YEAR!
    Ok, I’m off the soap box now and feel clean again :-) Thanks JOE for sharing! BTW where did Linda go?
    Ang

  41. Gee! If you guys weren’t so ridiculous you would almost be funny. Actually, you are spreading lies that border on slander. You should be ashamed. While Ginny has chosen to not respond to your ridiculous allegations because she is busy making My Power Mall better for it’s now 59,000 members, that doesn’t mean that I can’t respond. I happen to know the “inside scoop” but I’m almost done responding to this nonsense too because none of you seem concerned with the truth - you just want to spread lies.

    I’ll try though… Ginny flew passenger class on her latest trip, choosing a flight that took longer in order to save money. Her “$4000″ computer cost less than half of that - only bought after her 4 year old computer could no longer keep up with what she was asking it to do.

    She and her 60 Founding Members worked for NOTHING for almost 5 years to make Together We Can Change The World and My Power Mall available to the world. She personally made less than $400 last month - determined that she will not make substantial money until all her members are making money first.

    The 30% profit? Come on… Yes, she is providing this Mall free of charge to anyone who wants to join but you have to know there are substantial expenses to operate this kind of system. She operates 3 different servers, has 4 development teams around the world, and has 60 people who all are paid a very small % of the profits of the company. The lions share goes to the members but there is such a thing as cost of doing business. Your background in sales and finance should give you that information.

    Will Ginny some day make a lot of money. I certainly hope so! Not only because she deserves it but because I know what she will do with it! She has 3 Foundations of her own - in addition to the corporate foundations. She is building orphanages in Africa, and well as working to put programs in our public schools that will empower youth to fulfill their dreams. What are YOU doing - except trying to spread lies and untruths.

    By the way - you should check your math. The real figures work like this: 30,000 members spending $100 generates $3,000,000. The average Rebate % is 9% - meaning it generates $270,000 in commissions. Ginny takes 2.5% of that, or $6750. IF she took it. Money like that hasn’t been made yet - they are still building. But right now every penny she makes goes back to creating more tools for the MPM Members.

    You know, for all of you who are working so hard to make My Power Mall look bad - I really feel sorry for you (when I’m trying to not be mad at you). You just can’t believe there may actually be a company that is trying to make a difference in the world - committed to doing business differently. The thing I’m glad about is that most people will never see this ridiculous garbage you are spewing out.

    My Power Mall is full of members who are thrilled to have found a company that is truly different. I am one of them! I only hope all of you will decide to do something positive with your life instead of continuing this kind of nonsense.

    Want to truly know more about this company. Go to http://www.togetherwecanchangetheworld.com, http://www.togetherwecanchangetheworldday.com, & togetherwecanchangetheworldpublishing.com. These are just a few of the websites dedicated to GIVING things to the world to make a difference. Take off your dark glasses and let some light shine in. You’ll find Ginny Dye is all everyone says she is!

    Sandi

  42. @ Angie: I don’t know what happened to Linda. We haven’t heard from her in a while.

    To future commenters: we will continue to delete comments that make irrelevant personal attacks on Ginny. We’re not going to let this thread devolve into character assassination.

  43. Can someone please help clarify why the debit card is considered a major moneymaker for the MPM members? If my understanding is correct, the initial cost for the card is $10.00 and $5.00 is charged everytime the card is “reloaded”. As an example, If I had a debit card for $400.00 and it cost $10.00 to activate it, I’ve now spent $410.00 to purchase food, gas, groceries, etc. that cost $400.00. When I reload the card, I’ve now spent $405.00 to purchase goods worth $400.00.
    If the above scenario is correct, why would I or anyone else want to participate?

  44. This is not a MPM message board. You can ask and get answers on the MPM members forum. Or by emailing the MPM administrators.

  45. I’d be interested to know as well Dennis, But it seems like Mpm would rather that you ask the question in private . Wonder why ? Sandi , May I ask if you an admin . officer of MPM.? or employee maybe ???? hmmmmm.lol

  46. No, I’m just a member who loves My Power Mall and is tired of posts made from a place of no knowledge. If you really want to know about the Debit Cards you just need to make sure you read Ginny’s Updates. She gives you ALL the information you are asking for. Since you know about the cards I’m assuming you know how to go to the Communication Forum. Read Saturday’s & Monday’s Update. You’ll find the answers are already there.

  47. I caved. I joined MyPowerMall and… MrRebates. Again, I don’t shop online much, but I’m still tempted by the rebates. I read about another “My Power Mall”-like but I can’t find the article again. It was comparing that program to MPM; how they both have business and personal model. I used to google “My Power Mall review” and the article will pop right up. Now, when I do the same google, I just get a bunch of MPM affiliates. For some online stores, MPM has higher rebate than MrRebates; and for others, MrRebates has higher rebate. It’s not enough that we do research for lowest priced product; we now have to do research on coupon codes and which website gives us the highest rebate! For some stuff, these online hassles still beat driving to a local retailer.

  48. For “newbies” who have never done ANY Internet Marketing, don’t know how to start, don’t want to risk the $$$ upfront I still say this is a great offer. I don’t care if they are making money off of my money. It’s not hurting me and I now have a comfort level that left me petrified when I started looking at intermet opportunites. My inbox is full of the “best offers” that are “not scams”. When you are new, Internet Business is like the Wild, Wild West. A lot of Indians and not sure who the sherrif is and if he has much power anyway. Everyone blasts everyone and you learn that everything seems to be a Scam in Internet land leaving you scared to try anything. Give me something risk free to test the waters with to start out and I don’t care if you are shaving profits off my commission sales. So far, I have liked the stores I am finding that I would never have thought of looking for previously. Found the perfect give for my great nephew that I could not have found otherwise unless I got out of my little town and drove 2 hours to the mega metroplex mall. Even then this toy is very unique and probably not in a brick and morter store. AND…as far as giving to charity, their is a child with her name and story on my webpage. IF they really are giving to charity that is just a nice bonus. Until they prove me wrong otherwise, I will believe they are doing this. IT’s still not taking money directly out of my pocket, so I don’t get the criticism. If you all want to learn about what the FTC doesn’t like, do what I did. Research it yourself! Find out what FTC looks for in illegal Pyramid marketing. Not charging to sign up people under you and moving product doesn’t seem to qualify here as far as I am concerned. It may have some similiarites in structure but they do have a point…it’s FREE. No product you must buy, no required marketing tools etc…Time will tell and I will be vocal if it proves otherwise. I am willing to be though that they want to stay in business. I am new at this, not directly connected to anybody and no particular loyalty to MPM (not yet anyway)…trust me. I have a full time office job in a Software company looking for a way to supplement my income or replace it one day if I get laid off.
    Just my last 2 cents worth.

  49. As an inactive Power Maller , Let me put share my opinions to you all. My time is my investment, my expenses for flyers , business cards etc. were my investment .My word to family and friends as well as business contacts were my investment.Free? You decide. When I was first presented with MPM I also thought it was a great idea. I still do believe that basically it’s capable of succeeding. Now ,I’m sure I’ll be ruffling a few feathers here but, it’s not the ideals of MPM that are holding it back, it’s those running the operation.
    I too have seen for myself , those ready to appointment the founder ,as the next best thing since sliced bread. It’s true she may be sincere, but I don’t think she’s a capable leader. She HAS told members that MPM would venture into the mass media field and divide the new recruits among the 10+ club members. Months later, nothing has happened. Then she got everyone excited about grocery store cards. Well you guessed it, that was shelved so she could work on debit cards ,which WERE due on the 24th of Oct.
    You guessed it, those cards won’t be happening either. Membership, was suppose to reach 100,000 by Sept. .Never happened! The list probably goes on and on.. This is what I can verify from personal experience.
    I realize every new endeavor needs time to stand, but when is it enough time to stand on your own? MPM has failed to stand on it’s own. The computer system is loaded with bugs and glitches. Why? It’s because the people who put it together, though meaning well didn’t have the fore thought to anticipate these problems. They seem to be getting further behind rather then ahead.
    For to make it, people have to spend money.
    The figures your presented with the MPM calculator are based on numbers that in my own case were unattainable. I think most people aren’t spending until they make money. Funny, but if no one spends, nobody makes. So as an idea , I agree with the basis of MPM.,but I don’t see it succeeding until the right people are running the day to day operations. If Ginny says anything to me, well I’m sorry but after so many let down’s, I’m not sure if I could trust her. As far as MPM being on the level. that’s something you must decide. I believe it is. My days of 3-4 per spent promoting MPM are behind me.(If the company hired professionals to manage the company, I’d go back). This is the truth as I see it.
    P.S. If this appears to be a personal attack on Ms Dye and her team, it’s not meant to be. It’s may be an attack on their capabilities as though.

  50. Did you read the update letter explaining the credit card? She explained it very well. It’s to much to write up here but I was satisfied with her explanation. Apparantly, a promise was made to MPM with a date and so they put up money to get these co-branded cards. The bank pulled out and reniged on their agreement without notice or reason in email at the 11th hour. She seemed genuinly upset and apologized to all members, vowing that she has learned not give dates or even projections of dates until it’s a done deal. She decided to re-evaluate needs and is now looking for new sources for better co-branded credit card. Frankly, with all I read about the credit crunch going in the US market I am not surprised. She has vowed to not give up though and seeking new sources. I wish I could tell you the number of times a business alliance turned south on us creating a tailspin. I don’t know home based business, but I will tell you this is Corporate life. It hurts your business and you have to regroup and figure new plan. I know, it cost our company a lot of jobs.

    I use my own source of credit and do not need their cobranded card to do what I intended to do when I signed up, so this is not an issue for me as a new member at least for now.

    Having worked for major Corporatons at HQ offices for past 25 years. I did not pay much attention frankly to their sales goals of promising 100k by Sept. Why? I do Sales Support and Forecasting; work extensively with VP’s and managers establishing sales goals (still do with my current company). Let me tell you they are almost never met with accuracy. They do tend to set sales goals higher to make their organization strive harder and they frankly have false expectations sometimes. You can’t rely on those and hold them to it. We constantly rework our sales goals and formulate new plans based on making them or not making them and why. It’s a moving target, trust me. Upper managemetn just loves to put good looking numberson the board and I grin to myself when I know reality sets in. It’s a common affiliction with VP’s. They have a purpose but don’t set your heart on sales or numbers / projections or you are in for dissapointment. Throw in a new company with new people building a company with a different business model and you just will not get an accurate sales goal of membership. How can you guarantee numbers to your people? It’s not that easy. Focus on your own realistic sales goals with something like MPM and use your own judgement. Of course, you do need good managment support to help you get pointed in the right direction. I am waiting to see what that is like with MPM people.

    I also take those calculators with a grain of salt as they say. I looked at it, smiled and really changed the numbers DOWN. I have a long term goal due to my hectic life, not a short term expectation of thousands of dollars rolling in. I recognize this is going to take some work if I want to really make a go of it. Otherwise…

    It’s still a good place to shop regardless. I just bought a cool Red Wagon retro jet scooter that I love as a birthday present for my great nephew. I would have never found it elsewhere. I price shopped similar type scooters, not as cute though but more expensive. It was on sale and I was real happy at price I paid plus I another 7% to boot which eliminated my shipping cost. So here is my point. Don’t buy just to buy and think you have to. It’s money I would have had to spend somewhere anyway for Christmas. I could go elsewher and spend my money but found somethingt I really like at MPM. It doesn’t cost any money to keep the free web site so it’s pointless to give it up because I can’t sign up people to make big bucks. If anything, I buy stuff I need and I earn commissions and save a few bucks. No harm.
    I don’t see how you have to spend money. IF you don’t already shop online then maybe it’s not for you. I know a lot of people who do though, especially for Christmas so this works. If the freinds and family I sign up don’t want to buy, I am not twistig their arm. I don’t oversell big promises, so I don’t have any guilt over my word. They can decide if this is a good deal for them or not.

    It is good to know about glitches in the system amd I will watch my account & transactions carefully.

    Hope you don’t think I am a MPM freak or employee. I just started recently and testing the waters. I just want to provide the flip side view from another member so others can see a different perspective and decide for themselves. It may not all work out but like I say, I see very little risk compared to the other million offers that flood my inbox daily.
    Tons of Marketing fluff to sift through and they want money without understanding what the product really is…and those silly deadlines before the price goes up a hundred bucks. I am so burned out on that.

    BTW, I know some folks in town that follow the same MLM model and small payouts (commission) for another product, but similar plan. One guy I know makes good money and I saw his check for $4k in one month (yes, a person I trust). I did not do this though because for now my time is so limited and no time to attend weekly meetings in hotels and living rooms. I know my limitations. This works better for me because I can send out email at 11pm. It’s easier since I am not asking anyone to put out $320 and $19 per month web site management fees. That is why they need the meetings…its harder to really convice people.

    I am anxious to give this a fair shot and know I drive the wheel for the most part, but if it flop I will be the first to say so when it does. And if MPM Management lets me down trust me….I am a complainer.

  51. Mabbiz, bravo, excellent letter . You do understand your shopping thru her list of affiliates don’t you ? If you check with Commission Junction as an earlier post suggested , you’ll see that many of the stores offer 10% commission. MPM is distributing 7% thru 9 levels. Do you realize that most every store will allow you to become an affiliate? If you do , you not she earn the entire 10% not a portion of 7%. You seem to be a well spoken individual, May I suggest you also look into your own affiliate programs?
    If you understand marketing , you can’t help but see why it’s really not your advantage ,but her that you promote MPM. I spoke for myself when I said She wasn’t CEO material. My opinion is based purely on evidence I experienced. If you manage to make money that justifies the effort to promote her business, I salute you. I’ve seen more then my share of broken or discarded statements (all well intentioned I’m sure)By Ms Dye. Like I stated earlier , the idea is great, the leadership is totally lacking. Credibility, should be utmost. People can only get their hopes up so many times ,until they say enoughs, enough.
    Yes MPM can work, but unless things at the top aren’t operated professionally, the body of the beast (you and the others ) May find your selfs all chasing your tails.
    I know MPM is Ginny Dyes “baby” , but don’t we all want the best for our children?
    I know she doesn’t have a big ego, but why cheat the company, by not going after leadership. With great leadership, it would succeed, and in turn so would her beloved pet projects!( the charities)
    I know this sounds mean.. but this is business, and business lives in a world of reality ,not just on ideals alone! She can keep controling interest, just let someone else run it efficiently.

  52. This is a very interesting! I recently signed on as MPM associate. I have other Affiliate and MLM marketing businesses.

    I decided to partner with MPM because it really is an Affiliate Marketing clearing house.(My thoughts.) Instead of promoting hundreds of affiliates on my blogs & websites I just promote MPM where most of my affiliates are listed. I don’t mind the commission differences as my target group now has access to many other stores and will spend MORE money as a result.

    I save time by promoting MPM instead of updating my blogs/websites with new banners, etc.

    Once again, MPM is not a get rich quick business. However, it has great potential for steady income.

  53. Hey all, I was just checkin Mypower Mall on Google and this here site popped up.
    I never seen so many mall people arguin in one place. I been doin this since the biginning almost, I ain’t earned enough to make a check yet. But that’s on me. Iknow I ain’t active enough, but I got to agree about Jinny. She seems honest and all,but can somebody tell me how to turn her voice off the home page. I had a few of my budds tell me they couldnt get past her voice. And with all the problems they ben havin with they computers i don’t like it.
    I told lots of folks bout the debit cards,they said they don’t feel comfortable about giving them any money. When is them cards comin out ? Thought it was this month. I know this is the beginin but when is ginny gonna get them records and such straight? I may not know compters but if jinny was drivin one of my cars and gettin smoked ever race ,I’d say time for a new driver. But, it’s her car, so , if she wants to keep it in 2nd gear till it burns her tranny out, let her do it. sometimes I feel like I was selling avon door to door lol but it
    Didn’t cost me nuttin, I got nuttin so were even . Maybe if she sells the mall business , it could be better, like Macdonalds did. one thing more why ya all here lookin at scams if ya’ll so high on power mall? weird ain’t it. mean I looked up MPM scams and this came up…what ya’ll doin here? keep the faith ..Billy ! yo jinny :)

  54. Ex MPM…Thank You, I liked my letter to.

    Yes of course I realize she is making a cut and I could get higher affiliate income elsewhere. Let me try to say this AGAIN. Call it what you want, affiliate income, rebate, commission…it’s money back for buying or selling someone else’s product.

    1. I have been to the site but do not have time to explore commission juncion in depth, or all the other places for affiliate marketers. This is because unlike most other people I have very few hours in the day right now. If I go to commission juction I find links that lead to more links that I would have to spend quite a bit of time reading through to figure out how I turn this into a business and it’s really overwhelming when you first start out. I have never even put up a web site. This is my free no risk opporunity to start learning something with what little time I have with full time job and taking care of elderly folks not to mention other time crunchers in my life. Therefore like other services in life you choose to pay a premium instead of doing it yourself even though you know you can save more money. Sometimes the price of a product is not the only worth or marketability. TIME savings is a valuable tool to market as a justification to price. Instead of charging me for MPM is shaving off my commission to afford to offer those tools (web site, marketing tools, training sessions etc..). You are only looking at one facet or component, the commission rate. I am willing to loose percentage that right now to start some right away that took 10 minutes to understand.
    My company is highest price for the software we sell. But we package services, reporting tools that others do not so we are able to justify the expense as a time savings tool for busy companies that do not have time nor inclination to do that on their own. We find other partners for them as well so they don’t have to go out and do that, leaving them time to manage their core business. That is kind of the stage I am in right now. I may not be getting as much as I can but I am not paying out hardly anything either so no harm done.

    2. I would have never discovered all the interesting unique retailers on MPM on my own. I never knew for example Radio Flyer had their own unique store, or that igourmet had an extensive list of products. I found hand made gourmet cakes and desserts that were way cool for gifts. My sister is also very excited that she has already found presents for Christmas that are new and unique. I don’t have time to hit up all these people direct, get web sites blogs etc…going right now. I realize MPM is NICHE Shopping! I am going to take note of these retailers and send out emails to my donwline folks and use it as a tool to attract new people. I don’t mean to be rude but I am burning time now at midnight with saying the same things different ways when I should be emailing 2 more women I know about this.

    I am not saying this is right for you or everybody. I think MPM is right for some people and not for others. Their are some pictures of people with testimonials on the site that are succesful so it’s working for some people.

    As I learn I may expand out into other affliate mktg, but it’s a very difficult time for me to devote a lot of time to learning this all.

    Good Luck with whatever you do. I have got to stop responding though to these as I have to clean out my emails and Work on my plan for MPM.
    Tigerlily just proved my point by the way.

  55. Can someone please explain what the Status delinquent
    in this report on Ginny’s charity means.. I’m very concerned ! Are we being decieved ?
    This came from the state of washington
    http://www.secstate.wa.gov/Charities/search_detail_cfr.aspx?cfr_id=21433

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    Together We Can Change The World, Inc.
    Mailing Address:
    58 Lake Louise Drive
    BELLINGHAM WA 98229 Street Address:
    58 Lake Louise Drive
    BELLINGHAM WA 98229
    Registration #21433

    Status Delinquent
    Also Known As Name(s) One-Time Fundraising
    Shop For Charity Day

    Phone (360)756-5233
    Fax (360)756-5240
    Email ginnydye@earthlink.net
    Web Site http://www.shopforcharityday.com
    Federal EIN 20-2531364

    The following financial information has been provided to the Office of the Secretary of State by the above-named organization. Figures are for the organization’s fiscal year ending Apr 30, 2006.

    Contributions $7,540 According to the financial information shown at left, 70% of the contributions raised by this organization were returned to or retained by the charity client(s).

    Amount to Charity Clients $5,278
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    Together We Can Change the World, Inc. does not list any of their 150,000+ registered organizations because they are all donor-designated. TWCCTW operates an online Mall called Shop For Charity Day. They offer 1000+ stores for consumers to shop from, designating up to 75% of the purchase price back to any of the 150,000 organizations registered. The consumer also has the option of adding an organization they wish to support. 70% of all profits generated from shopping is returned back to the designated organization.
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  56. I know this will probly get deleted but I’m gonna tell you the truth about MPM.First hand!
    I been a member of the MPM program since the end of May. I have over 70 sign ups in my downline, and over $2000.00 in sales. To date ,I’ve received zero back. I’ve followed all the steps including writing the Admin office. They never write back. I have friend who get no answer either.
    Since I have some experiance, my opinion is MPM plain SUCKS. It’s over-hyped, and it’s die hard followers are like little leemings. Fortunatly , most members get wise before to long.
    Ginny Dye ,can never seem to deliver on any of the main goals SHE”S proposed. First it was grocery cards,then debit cards.. Where’s the TV,and radio ads, where’s the 100,00 by Sept. ? It’s all B.S.! Where did Rev. maltass go? He was suppose to set up a damn mentoring program. I think he bailed too.
    Unless ,you live in a cloud , MpM sucks.
    That’s My opinion.
    Poof ..I’m gone!
    P.S. who gives a crap about Ginny and her sick dogs and wet computers ? How lame is that from a CEO ! Enough with the bs stories. Show us The money .

  57. U have cross the line.

    IF u dont care about animals u got serious problems
    send me ur email and i will respond to u

  58. Why would you want my email? I don’t care about your pets either ! lol.j/k
    People sign up to make some extra money, not listen to her talk about dogs. Tell it to your vet , not your business assoiciates. What’s next? Bill gates yappin about hemerroids. The family ,”we’re all brothers and sister stuff” is fine, but not when Mall owners are trying to figure this all out. besides she ain’t my friend, neither is my boss. If i want convo like that, I’d invite her for BBQ. Someone made the same point about her voice.. Sometimes less is more. I guess I’m one of those she will tell you is never satisfied , well That’s not true. She’ll never accept the fact that she’s a disappointment to many. Not all but Many!
    she has yet to admit when she screws up. it’s always a giltch or the vendors ,or the moon is out of wack. .. When will somebody come on here with proof that there making anything close to what she’s promoting. Like the figure of people spending 150 a month in their malls. It’s probably more like 10 or 15.
    Most of us weren’t looking to get rich, just a few extra bucks…it ain’t happening.
    Grrrrrrrr.
    Give me your email reg and I’ll send you a copy of “ol yeller” to weep over. lol
    stay cool and Peace!
    Good to have a place to debate the real facts,,,thank you guys.

  59. You guys make interesting arguments. I wonder if we’ll peak Ginny’s interest and she’ll come back with something interesting to say.

  60. If you have really interesting stuff, we need to verify it through a legitimate email address for checking copyright questions and whatnot. No matter how interesting something might be, we won’t publish an unverified source.

  61. Ask the source herself.. We’d love to see her try to deny this one!!!!!! It is interesting. Either way the end of the month will draw nearer, weather or not ……… Good to know your sources are verifed though.. Just attach a smiley face on our collective ass …our work goes on either way! Save the web!!!!

  62. I first posted on this subject Sept.15…
    In the 2 months that have now pasted, not one person has presented evidence That MPM members are making more then a few dollars. At the time I got a reply from Ginny Dye with all the smiley faces and cutesy “kumbaiya” propaganda.
    The Subject was rightly listed as
    “MY POWERMALL ,WHERE”S THE POWER?”
    In 8 month’s the same question arises.
    Where is the power?
    I have a question for anyone in the know.
    What is the attrition rate of MPM? By that I mean, how many peoplewho have signed up, remain active today ?
    Also of the 75,000 plus members, how many actually made a purchase thru the mall system in Sept or Oct. ? 5000? 6000? or are the numbers much lower ?

    I happen to know the answer now!

    Will Ginny Dye deny the numbers, or create new ones? Beware Ginny,unless there are 2 Ginny Dyes in the world I wouldn’t try lying or exaggerating!
    People your effort are better served by focusing and something other then my power mall. Believe it or not , no Ginny ,I’m not obsessed with seeing you fail. But someone has to be honest with these people. Who want’s to wait until years have past, all your team has abandoned you , and your nowhere near being compensated for your time or effort ??

    Ginny , I ask you to re-read your own post on this site , from back in Sept.
    In these past months , has anything changed ?
    How many people are getting paid? Are there still on average 750 members a month with missing sales ? ( 1% is your figure hon, though I think it has to be higher!)How many members with a number lower then 35,000 are still active ? When you “cut out the dead wood” from your membership for not spending , how will they feel about the claim of free op.? Why do you go behind peoples backs and send letters to MPM members with more then 10 people on their teams telling them don’t share this letter or info with anyone? If you read between the lines here people, this is the same old tired story . The people on top win, the bottom feeders get cut loose and everyone in the middle get’s the shaft.

  63. Bravo Andrea,
    I’m so sick of My Power Mall telling me to shop more and more with every update. Enough already!!!
    I’m just waiting until my sales all go through and I’m going to leave MPM. Your exactly correct, I too spent endless hours promoting my mall and I’ ve only earned about $18.00 in 4 months time.. They tell you it’s not a get rich thing , but I was hoping it would at least pay the paper boys bill . HAHA !
    I joined another mall business called BigCrumbs.
    I got my first payment today. Not much, but at least it pays 35% on the first level instead of 7%. It’s smaller, but no computer foul ups to report ! I spent $27.00 and got $1.28 off that purchase alone through Target. The 9 lines on MPM are almost impossible to achieve.
    Thanks for let me tell my story.
    Charlene B.
    Tulsa Ok.

  64. Nobody is getting drop from MPM…Read this!
    From the members forum:
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    Find Member’s Posts Aug 29 2007, 09:19 AM Post #1

    Administrator

    Group: Root Admin
    Posts: 1
    Joined: 23-July 07
    Member No.: 2

    Hello everyone,

    There are several reasons members become inactive.
    The mall owner decided they did not want to be part of MPM - for whatever reason. That is their option!
    Spamming member in MPM with cross-recruiting e-mail (Corporate action)
    Spamming the system with multiple sign-ups from same IP address (Corporate action)
    Among other reasons listed in your contract (located in your back office)
    I really don’t understand #1 since this program will never cost you a dime. We have inactive members with active downlines. Que? Oh well, it’s their choice.

    You will never be deactivated for lack of shopping — but you won’t earn an income either. Hint, Hint!!!

    Use the system as intended and you will never need to worry about being deactivated by Corporate.

    Best of success to all of you!!!
    Owen

  65. After reading all these varied postings, I couldn’t resist jumping in once to add my two cents worth. In my 26 years of working with mostly technology based organizations (Yes, the PC or Apple were not commercially around when I started my career and Al Gore had not invented the internet yet;-), there have been a couple of constants. One is companies always over promote and rarely deliver everything they promise and two, systems/processes are never perfect. Yes, there are several more but these are adequate for this posting.

    Many of the postings are rather vicious to say the least. Some of them are making statements that are clearly based on mis-guided or mis-informed knowledge. Some are just plain dumb. Sure, this holds true for most internet business oriented blogs/message boards.

    I am a Power Mall operator. I started less than one month ago, I now have twelve in my first tier and no, I haven’t made any real money to speak about yet. I really do not expect to make any until I have a decent 4th tier building. Realistically, my goal is $1000 a month income in twelve months. Now, the MPM has only been online since March of this year. I just did a quick glance at the list of malls with 10 or more and it is pretty extensive. The biggest number was a little over 600. Not bad. What are they bringing in? I don’t know buy I suspect they would share the details if I asked.

    Now I am prety new to the internet marketing world and I made one big mistake that has cost me more than I care to admit. I also look at a lot of these MLMs, list builders, and the myriad of malls, ebay resellers, and so on. The reality is most don’t succeed and many loose money, some more than others.

    The blasting of MPM is I suppose to be expected. I suspect some of the posters are running competitive malls. I joined MPM for several reasons. It did not require a membership investment, it has a tremendous store selection, it is a program that you will not get hurt on and therefore, I feel good telling friends and family about it, and finally, I do see that I will achieve my previously stated goal in the time frame I expect.

    As for the percentages listed on direct site affiliates versus what MPM pays, it goes back to the business model. I know organizations have to make money and I know they will. Also, the clearing houses used take a piece of the pie much like credit cards do. If this is news to some, then look in to it.

    Blasting the prices available from the MPM stores is really not worth commenting on but here it is anyway. No MPM member is forced to use the mall. The stores do not inflate the charges just for the mall. (remeber, the sites are the same as if you surfed to them directly). MPM members actually get deals form some stores that want to promote themselves. If you don’t see a good deal for the item you are looking for, don’t buy it!!!

    I do believe that a lot of the malls are owned by internet marketing people that run multiple businesses or have at least tried. I believe the real users (buyers) haven’t really been tapped. Those that shop online but aren’t tuned in to this whole internet marketing thing. I am taping into some of those demographics now and expect excellent returns.

    I kept reading Pyramid as if that was a terrible thing. A Pyramid and MLM are a couple of the best marketing concepts of the ages. Were they abused by the likes of Amway and others, you bet. With that said, the concept is quite good and when done legally, works great. There is no restriction for that mall owner at the “bottom” of one person’s Pyramid to not be at the top of their own. The reality is you create multiple “Pyramids” that you can get paid from to 9 levels. Yes, the numbers get pretty astronomical at the 7 through 9 levels as someone earlier pointed out. Of course, the reality is there will be attrition, people don’t buy online ever month. Many will not give any malls away, etc…

    As for the charity issues, 75% is a pretty good rate. I would like to see it at 85% but this does not motivate me one way or the other as it relates to my mall.

    I enjoyed everone’s opinions on this board and look forward to future comments.

  66. Alan,
    I see you have all the vim and vigor every new member starts off with. I hope it works for you.
    What no one has mentioned yet that MPM is a numbers game for one reason. That reason is because it’s human nature that people will sign up for something and after a while quit for lack of results, interest, or no response..
    We live in a society where everything need to happen immediately.
    Ginny Dye , is a terrific motivator, but has disappoint so many . She’s lead people to believe thing will be so Rosy , yet nothing changes.
    you’ve been in it a month, others 6 months and have met every requirement needed , and still haven’t gotten credited for sales. Yes by Ginny’s own admission , people haven’t gotten credit.
    She’s failed us on grocery cards, debit cards, and the celebrity endorsement she said would be happening.
    Instead we get updates loaded with her own human interest stories , and testimonials telling us that other people think she the next Oprah.
    It’s sickening. She’s (my opinion) the reason why MPM will never succeed! She lacks the skills to run the company. With this many problems in a young company, what can we expect if the company was to ever reach the hundreds of thousands?
    The question about attrition rate was valid . I’d like to know the answer myself. Based on my own mall. Not one of over 100 of my downline has shopped in over 2 months.
    Good luck to you. I just wish I’d found this forum before I’d started with MPM.
    BTW after 6 months , I haven’t received a penny!
    I know for a fact , my experiance is not unique. It’s happening in more cases then not.

    I’ve even had some religious minded folks do research and tell me they would never support Ginny herself from a regilious stand point.
    I did my own and see why. So ,people will find there own reasons ! It’s human nature! It didn’t work for me and it hasn’t worked for anyone I know (over 125). So Alan I hope your the exception. But I wonder …….
    Go out there Alan, be the one in 125 ,I know who’s going to make a thousand a month. Lol .Call me if you ever make $50.00 a month. Now How’s that for motavation. Ginny didn’t lie when she said you can’t please everyone! She never said there were so many of us out here though. .I guess we’re all wrong and you and about 3000 others out of 75,000 ( she counting cancelled malls as well in that figure)are right!
    See ya..I’m going to Wal-Mart with my “web coupon”, and my Discover rewards card to do my shopping! HMMMMMMMMMM. did I just save more ?

  67. Me again,
    Alan …this statement you made won’t hold true past the middle of January 08
    *******************************************

    “Blasting the prices available from the MPM stores is really not worth commenting on but here it is anyway. No MPM member is forced to use the mall.”
    She’s already come up with plan to terminate the malls of people who don’t shop every month! Read your updates! So I guess you will be forced to shop…..opps gotcha !

  68. I happened upon this very interesting back and forth debate.And even though I’m not familiar with this company, one thing I do know.If you don’t put your money where your mouth is, people will not trust you.I’m writing an ebook titled Trust Inc.And for good reason. People are getting fed up with all the marketing hype, false expectations and broken promises.Years ago I got ensnared with a mlm company that later went down.They got sued big time, for frontloading.If companies will build their business on the foundation of trust they will be around to endure the ongoing obstacles that face any business.It is amazing how many companies will overlook this simple but profound truth.I hope each one of you find your dreams come to fruition.