We’ve had several requests to review My Power Mall, so they must be doing something right because they’re generating quite a buzz.
My Power Mall (MPM) is based on a very old and familiar formula: buy things from “yourself” so you get a piece of the action, then recruit others to do the same. Sound [...]
We’ve had several requests to review My Power Mall, so they must be doing something right because they’re generating quite a buzz.
My Power Mall (MPM) is based on a very old and familiar formula: buy things from “yourself” so you get a piece of the action, then recruit others to do the same. Sound familiar? We saw that principle at work in Smartbusinessformula.com, and it was the mantra when I was in Amway many years ago. The logic went like this: “Hey, you own the store, so wouldn’t you rather buy from yourself than make Sam Walton rich by shopping at Wal-Mart?” MPM uses the same rhetoric. When you sign up, which is free, you become the “owner” of your very own “Power Mall,” which is a large collection of someone else’s affiliate links. This is a very important point I’ll say more about below. Take a look at I’ve Tried That’s Power Mall here. (Hurry; it won’t be up for long. They’ll probably shut us down when they read this review.) As you can see, there is a large selection of stores and products (look at the categories down the left side).
According to the information in the members’ area, you make even more money by referring people. My Power Mall, the company, founded by a woman named Ginny Dye, earns a commission from each of your purchases, then kicks back part of the commission to you. That’s why they want you to succeed and recruit the population of China. You can fill up to 9 levels of Power Malls in your downline, each with 100 people, each of whom refer 100 people, all of whom will buy their daily stuff at their My Power Malls, and you get a piece of all that action! You’ll soon be rich! I don’t pretend to understand the downline system because there’s no need to—they lost me at step 1: buy your stuff from your own Power Mall.
The problem with “buying from yourself”
In my experience, every time someone has told me to buy from myself, they wanted to sell me something first. So you’ll excuse my pessimism. There are two problems with this approach: (1) don’t be stupid—you don’t really “own the store.” You are a commission-based salesperson selling overpriced stuff to yourself. (2) You have to buy your products and convince lots of other people to sign up for MPM and buy their products. And where do you think that commission comes from? Out of corporate profits? No. It comes from the consumer (that would be you) in the form of artificially inflated prices. There’s the clincher. Steve and I can’t find a reason to buy anything from our shiny new mall.
Is there something shady going on?
Well, not exactly. It’s not a scam because you aren’t being asked to pay money directly or dishonestly. What you are being asked to do is buy everything from the Ginny Dye’s affiliate links; she then returns a portion of the commission to you. In that sense every “Power Mall” is Ginny’s. Every Power Mall “owner” has the exact same store because they’re all her affiliate links. Retailers don’t let affiliates purchase for themselves through their own links, so the links in your mall have to be someone else’s: they’re Ginny’s.
You can see this is true by looking at the promised commissions, Buy.com’s affiliate program (unrelated to MPM) offers 3-10% commission, depending on purchases. But Ginny, the founder of My Power Mall is only offering “UP TO” 7% commission for Buy.com purchases. Gap.com offers 4-6% back, but at most you can get “up to” 4.2% back through MPM. And the list continues:
- Old Navy: 4% through their affiliate program, 2.8% through MPM
- Boscov’s: 5% normally, 3.5% through MPM
- Bidz.com: 10% normally, “up to” 7% at MPM
- and on, and on, and on
Why would anyone buy from My Power Mall?
I might not be the ideal target customer because I hate to shop. I’m not one to go wander around in a store and just look to see if something catches my fancy. When I go into a store, I know exactly what I want, how much it costs, and ideally, where it’s located in the store. If I can’t be in and out in five minutes, I start to get panicky. I’ve been known to burst out of emergency exits, screaming and setting off alarms. MPM has an impressive array of stores and products; you can buy 99% of everything you’d ever want there. The problem is price. I logged on and shopped for a few things I’ll be buying in the near future. Here’s what I found:
| Product | MPM Price | Other Retailer Price |
| HP ink cartridge 21 | $12.95 + $4.95 shipping - $2.71 commission = $15.19 |
$14.99 @ OfficeMax |
| Boys Adrift, by Leonard Sax | $20 via Barnes & Noble +$4 shipping - 0.28 commission = $23.72 |
$14.48 @ half.com + $4 shipping = $18.48 |
| Western Digital 250Gig external hard drive | $119 via Circuit City +$7.20 sales tax - 2.49 commission = $123.71 |
$79.99 @ Newegg.com + $7.81 shipping = $87.80 |
These price comparisons are actually generous because the commission comes back to you later in the form of a check from My Power Mall, not as a discount at the time of purchase. I’ve done some stupid things in my financial history, but paying $40 more than I have to in the hopes of getting part of that back later is not one of them.
Miss Spamalot
I signed up for My Power Mall on Aug 25. Between the time I signed up and the writing of this post on Aug 29, I have received 9 email messages from My Power Mall! Oh, I realize they’re trying to help me “succeed,” but fer cryin’ out loud, Ginny, it’s not like we’re married or somethin’. I’m just not feelin’ you like that, you know? I’m sorry, but it’s you, not me.
Good intentions? Maybe, but still a waste of time
The only way you’re going to make money with My Power Mall is if you have a full downline and everyone in it buys their stuff at their Power Mall. But as I’ve said, there’s no incentive to do that because the prices suck once you pay for shipping. And while you’re building your downline, you’ll be paying a premium price for everything. It’s a sustainable business model only for those that own the company and get a small cut of everyone’s efforts.
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The price: that’s the main reason I didn’t join MPM also. My first impression was: Yes! I can buy everything online from now on and make money from it. Then I check the prices of daily-use items and they are way over-priced from Target or other local stores. I didn’t even add in the shipping yet.
With mypoint.com, I really liked it because there were so many opportunitiess to earn points. I am having a lot of trouble with their bonusmail though. If I register with their merchant/advertiser through bonusmail, sometimes, I don’t get credited. I’m still trying to figure out how to get credited through bonusmail. Also, with MyPoints, it looks like most (if not all) stuff requires 30 days pending period.
There are not very many good alternatives to the type of program MPM tries to be. None that I’m aware of, in fact. Speak up if you find one, Julia!
That was too hash Joe! (smile in my face and a knife in my hand)
Please, you cannot compare this with Amway. You don’t buy from yourself, it’s more like Ebay affiliate.
There are a lot of underpriced Stores, but I recognize not all.
Drugstore.com is the most popular. Moreover, this is free forever. Better than DHS or Mistery Sh.
You are evil Joe.
Linda, if you’ve never been in Amway, or more accurately, one of the “motivational organizations” associated with them, you don’t know how much they’re alike. Maybe not the pay structure or the business model, but the sales materials and Rah-Rah! success rhetoric is all the same.
I did read the ebook “Merchants of Deception”. There is no Motivational Org here…
You don’t buy trainig programs
You are not pushed by a Social environment
I understand what you mean with Rah-Rah! but look, they are compelled to be motivators.
You must have noticed that no one is telling “be millionaire like me” and making hypes all over like in Amway.
This is unfair, you joined Agloco and you weren’t that harsh for such an unclear business.
There is no sales materials (?)
All valid points, Linda. You don’t have to buy any motivational crap (it sounds like you know what you’re talking about after reading Merchants of Deception), and there’s no social pressure. In that sense, you’re right that the comparison is a bad one. They use the same rhetoric is all I’m saying.
I didn’t write the Agloco review. And since joining Agloco, I’ve received one or two emails from them…in MONTHS. There’s nothing like spam to get me on a program’s bad side.
Merchants Or Deception, I loved the book so much. You could make a review of it, I went around recommending your site for John Chow’s review. Also, I go around recommending MOD book.
as for MPM, the spamming you call is very valuable for us that are building it. When join Personal Mall -wich is for final-client- you would receive Stores updates only (wich of course can be blocked).
I still love you Joe. And I thank you for your review no matter it was harsh. This site will maintain credibility as you remain honest to your beliefs and points of view.
Hello Joe,
Wow! You sound like you had a bad day.
I don’t shop for anything I don’t need. I don’t have to sign up for services or pay anything to review a product and I don’t have to join some kind of a fee abased membership program in order to get paid.
And I most certainly don’t shop online if I can find a better deal at local stores. Which, I am not required to do so with MPM.
But there are many options in which you can buy things that are much better priced online than in a store or in person. Such as airline tickets, hotel rooms, car rentals, etc. Come on, who buys airline tickets at the airport?
You forgot to mention in your review, about the debit card. You don’t have to buy store items. Very soon you will be able to purchase a debit card through your mall. So you won’t have to shop on your My Power Mall stores in order to earn money.
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You will earn commission on your debit card.
You can buy gas, milk, pay bills and whatever else and still make your profits with your MPM debit card.
Remember this is a new company. And buy the way, Ginny dye is actually quite nice.
Reg
Hi Joe,
I woke up at 3:00 AM to honor Labor Day by laboring for the 39,000+ people who have joined us since March 19th when we launched. One of my members sent me your post, incensed that you would say what you did. I read it and smiled.
Not because I’m glad you’re unhappy, but because I realize it is not possible to make everyone happy and because no matter what I do someone isn’t going to like it. I’ve decided to accept that and just keep moving forward – trying to create the best business opportunity possible. I just appreciate honest dialogue so I thought I would share some… 
Oh, and by-the-way, I didn’t go in a shut your Mall down. 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and who knows – you might change yours in time.
Do we have improvements to make? My gosh, yes. Will we make changes? Of course. I listen to my members every day and keep working to make it better. In the interest of fairness, however, let me respond to some of your points:
1)You say that people can make more money if they just get their own Affiliate links. Is that true? Of course it is! The issue becomes, how many people are actually able to create a Mall that has over 1000 stores in it? Not many. How many people have the ability to create a system that will give everyone the training they need and give them access to every thing My Power Mall has? The only people who make real money with their own Affiliate Marketing are those people who are pros in E-Commerce, website development, Search Engine optimization, and other things that the average person simply won’t be able to succeed at. We do all that for you, and then GIVE you the system.
Does My Power Mall keep a % of every purchase made? Of course we do. How else do you think we could offer a Free Mall?
The % we keep pays for our systems, Free Malls for our members (currently 39,000+ and growing about 500 a day), the 60+ people who keep it going, the One-Child-At-A-Time Foundation and the Together We Can Change the World Foundation. I hate to disappoint you, but by the time I have taken care of everything I keep a very tiny %. I happen to believe that a company should make money WITH their members, not from them. Will I eventually make a lot of money. I hope so.:) I have 3 Foundations of my own that I am building in order to help make things better. The key, however, is that I can’t make money until I am FIRST helping a lot of other people make a lot of money. For me, it’s the right way to do business.
One thing you didn’t mention is that My Power Mall is just one part of my company called Together We Can Change The World, Inc. Ahh… you probably didn’t read enough to know that because you got so angry with the SPAM.
Come on, Joe… SPAM? You signed up for a company and gave me your email address. I even include an Unsubscribe link at the bottom of each one so you can stop receiving them any time you want to. The thing is… I have members who love to receive them and look forward to them. I’ll keep writing to them, and not be offended if you don’t care for me and choose to delete me from your life. 
10 years ago I wrote down what I wanted my life to be… I want to empower others to fly to their dreams and then give them a way to do it. I truly believe My Power Mall is the answer. It’s okay that you don’t…
Do I try to motivate people? Of course. Most of us need some motivation when the world is spewing negative stuff at us all the time. I know I do; so I try to share it with the people who are building my company. I make no apologies for trying to be a bright spot in their lives. 
Now, let’s address the comment about artificial over-inflated prices. The key thing here is that there is not one thing on My Power Mall that belongs to us. We are simply a portal for 1000+ (over 1100 right now)Merchants like Sears, Eddie Bauer, Lands End, Ink Jets, ShoeBuy.com, and on and on. Is everything a great deal? Of course not. The websites belong to each merchant but as consumers we all have the right to ferret out great deals.
Though I could send you tons of testimonials on great deals, I’ll just stick with my own:
- I needed some deck furniture this summer and had done some shopping around in the Mall and locally – just to see what people had. What I wanted was going to cost me about $1000. I found what I wanted on my Mall through Home Depot. I got 40% off and FREE shipping. Instead of $1000, I paid $600 and had UPS bring it directly to my house – saving me a lot of time and a lot of money. Plus, I made a % back. Cool!
- I buy Ink Cartridges all the time. I roamed around in my Mall. I could have bought them through Office Max, but instead I went through MrInkMan because I got them at 50% off, got FREE shipping, and didn’t pay any tax. Not to mention, I received 22% back!
- I used to traipse to the Mall to Eddie Bauer. Then, most of their retail locations disappeared, mine included. No problem. They are on my Mall. I can still buy my clothes, I can wait for the sales, I can have it shipped directly to me, and I make money every time.
- One more. I needed some luggage for a trip I was making. I went to Overstock.com and bought a $500 set of luggage for $210. I paid $1 for shipping and it was delivered to me by a chained UPS truck in the middle of a snowstorm. AND I made money back. Sweet!
I could keep going, but I think you can see my point. The reason for 1000+ stores is so that smart consumers can find the very best deal, save time & money, get things delivered directly to them, AND make money.
Oh, and if you still need the Western Digital 250Gig external hard drive you were looking for – try Tiger Direct on the Mall. Instead of the $79 you were looking at, you can buy it for $74.00 – and make some money back.
Just trying to help out… 
Sure, it takes a lot of people buying to make money. I have never touted My Power Mall as a get-rich-quick scheme. It is a business – one that will take time to build. We do, however, give people all the tools they will need to build it, we run contests to reward buying, AND we have a whole team of people who do nothing but look for the best deals on My Power Mall.
Are we perfect? Of course not – no business is. Would I rather make money and have the chance to build a large team of people who can generate residual income, over gaining points through MyPoints.com? Well, yes, but that’s just me. Everyone gets to make their own choice.
And now, if you’ll please excuse me, I have some work to do to make My Power Mall even better for those people joining us every day. Thanks for allowing me to dialogue with you. If I can ever help you in any way, let me know.
Have a beautiful day!
Ginny
Hi Ginny,
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to write a thorough reply. Hopefully our readers will benefit from the dialog and make the best possible choice for themselves.
I think your best point was about the spam: I DID give you my email address, and you make it easy to opt out. And, as one of our other commenters noted, the emails are valuable for those actively trying to build their malls. So, though it’s very painful for me to say, I’m sorry for calling you Miss Spamalot.
Ahhh… I respect anyone with the integrity to apologize! I forgive you for calling me Miss Spamalot – though the name does have a certain ring to it.
I, too, hope readers will benefit from our dialogue.
Have a great day!
Ginny
hehehe Joe!
you got your beef?! you are evil. I didn’t call her, somebody else did.
JoE!! you woke up a CEO with your second rated website!!
that was a cheaty move! did you got your traffic rise? oh! please edit this post and be a little nicer!
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Here you can find great jokes about MLM. Great for review
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Thanks for the jokes, Linda. I’ll tell you what: I will happily revise this review when you show me substantial earnings from your My Power Mall. Fair? See? I’m not a mean guy: I’m motivating you.
Joe,
I think the “Instant Money Vault” is the same concept Ginny has been commenting on.
I welcome your comments.
Thanks.
John
Hey john
HUH?
Hey Ginny, How many people are getting a check every month ? I mean to say other than you and your cronies ?
What percentage have you collected as the resulted of shopping you require from your members,in order to read the tips givin freely by other members ? They write the book and you profit from commission on sales? Now that’s what I call “Changing the world ” ! Changing Ginny’s world ? Bravo, Ms Humble do gooder !You’ve created the perfect system for you to get richer.
I have a question , How much have you raised for these charities you run? what is your admin.cost to run these and who really makes money.
These are my personal opinions ..So Take them at face value.. I think alot of her members are being lead by the nose .
Hi Andrea,
I’m going to step out on a limb here and anwer your questions, though I wonder if you already feel so badly about My Power Mall that it won’t do any good. I’m sorry for whatever caused you to have these feelings but you are certainly entitled to them.
You ask how many members are getting checks every month. Hundreds. The number is more than doubling every month and the checks are getting larger. We are still a new company and it will take time to build, as the shopping builds, but the shopping is growing daily as more and more realize what great savings they can experience – as well as making money for every purchase they or their team makes.
We are a not a get-rich quick business. We are a business where people can come, shop for what they are going to buy anyway, and build an impressive income along the way.
I’m sorry you feel I am “charging” for 101 Ways To Promote My Power Mall”. All I’ve asked people to do is go buy something they are going to buy anyway – not give me money for a book. Just for the record, I have received comments from hundreds of people who are so grateful for this because it is directing people into their Mall so they can understand just how powerful it is and so that money is generated to EVERYONE!
Though I know it’s hard for people to understand or believe, the people who built My Power Mall, only make money when all the members make A LOT of money FIRST. From the sound of your post you have been burned by a lot of companies or people. I’m sorry for that, but I do understand the feeling.
As far as our Foundations, and the One-Child-At-A-Time Program; there are no adminstrative costs and all the money collected goes to children or to the programs we are supporting. I just made a commitment this week to handle all the costs to feed, clothe and school 70 children in a Uganda Orphanage. We will expand from there and help as many kids as we can.
Am I leading my members by the nose? I guess only time will really tell that. I do know that no matter what I do, someone isn’t going to like it, or it will be taken the wrong way. I can accept that.
I am sitting in the LA airport, just having attended a conference and also having 2 meetings where I was able to meet some of my members and thank them for what they are doing to help build My Power Mall and Together We Can Change The World. It was so exciting to hear about people building their business to help benefit Churches, Pregnancy Centers, Jewish Synagogues, Environmental Organizations, Animal Shelters and so much more.
Is it just POSSIBLE that we really are who we say we are? Is it just POSSIBLE that there is finally a company committed to helping people succeed and also make a difference in the world? Again, only time will tell. I just ask you and those who read your post to keep an open mind and keep an eye on what we’re doing. If ever you feel differently we will welcome you into our Adventure to change the way business is done, as well as changing the world!
Have a beautiful day!
Ginny Dye
MPM CEO/Founder
Ginny’s quote not mine :
As far as our Foundations, and the One-Child-At-A-Time Program; there are no adminstrative costs and all the money collected goes to children or to the programs we are supporting. I just made a commitment this week to handle all the costs to feed, clothe and school 70 children in a Uganda Orphanage. We will expand from there and help as many kids as we can.
State of Washington’s Records , again not mine !
I’ve only deleted her personal info .
Together We Can Change The World, Inc.
Mailing Address:
BELLINGHAM WA 98229 Street Address:
BELLINGHAM WA 98229
Registration #21433
Status Active
Also Known As Name(s) One-Time Fundraising
Shop For Charity Day
Phone (360)7
Fax (360)75
Email ginnydye@
Web Site http://www.shopforcharityday.com/
Federal EIN 20-2531364
Contributions $7,540 According to the financial information shown at left, 70% of the contributions raised by this organization were returned to or retained by the charity client(s).
Amount to Charity Clients $5,278
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I wonder where the other 30 % went? or roughly $2300.00. It was administration fees though!
………………………………………. And btw….hundreds getting checks ? I find that hard to believe .. your own top 50 club doesn’t have the numbers to support that claim nor does your Big” spenders list..
So my dear ..You have a beautiful day as well!
Beware folks !
I myself am not bitter , but when folks are being led to believe things that aren’t what they seem…well I get upset. This lady in my opinion has to many years of MLM experience,not to be able to fast talk anyone.
Sigh… I tried, Andrea, but I really knew not to try and reason with you because you have already made up your mind. I could rebut what you have said because you are forming your arguments around misunderstood facts,and we could continue this dialogue but I know it would only serve to upset you more so I’m going to bow out now.
I have no desire to fast talk, nor do I engage in it. I will let all my members form their own opinions based on what they see happening, or not happening, in the company. In the end, anyone can join us (because it’s free), or anyone can leave us. They, and you, have nothing but my best wishes.
Blessings to you, Andrea!
Ginny Dye
CEO/Founder
My Power Mall
oh sigh…….poor Ginny..you’ve been called to the mat. and have no explanation.. I was blessed before you came along and will be long after the world see thru your wolf in sheep’s clothing act. Beware folks beware.
Don’t let these people pray on those only looking to get ahead. These people have mislead people all along..As is the case with Ms MLM ,now do-gooder ginny.
I’ve said my piece.. Beware. And the truth will set you free.
It’s site claims that MPM isn’t a MLM and according to the legal definition it probably isn’t. In fact it’s a pyramid scheme. Precise definitions are hard to come by. It’s interesting to note that the levels of MPM only go to level 9. By level 11 the number of participants exceeds the population of the U.S. At level 13 it’s more than the world’s population. It’s simply unsustainable and the only ones who profit are the ones who start it.
Refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
Give Ginny Time Chris, I’m sure she’ll tell you it isn’t a Pyramid because it’s “free” . lol
But what do I know ..I just get sighs and little smiley faces.
These groups will be watched very closely, and should be. I’m also sure Ginny won’t be posting your numbers on her site anytime soon either.
I’m not a member of the MPM and I don’t think MPM is a place to make big money. I don’t shop online much also (that’s why I didn’t join). But if I DO shop online, I like to get rebate/coupons/discount. If it’s through MPM, mypoints.com, discover card rebate, chase credit card rebate, or any other ways, I wouldn’t mind. About the charity claim, in general, I still think donating directly to the charity is better than going through another organization (like MPM). But I guess the charity claim is one way that many companies want to encourage consumers to shop at their place instead of their competitor and to show how they “care” about society and do their social duty (sorry, forgot the correct business term. so much for an MBA degree.)
I’m not a member either. But it does look very much like a pyramid. I looked at the business movie and saw nothing to get excited about. The stores were fine, but the prices are still better at wal mart, or even buying directly from some of the stores with out the middle man involved.. I saw on the site also where they claim over 44,000 people /members. If they have that many and are only writing checks out to hundreds….that isn’t very good is it? I mean what about the other 43,800 people? thanks for the heads up Joe, Raven
hi guys,
I am a member of MPM.
Let me ask you this what is a pyramid?
Yeah you do have to work to build your business. But hello, you are giving away a free business. A FREE BUSINESS!
I think that you will never reach your goals based on opinions.
Doesn’t matter what company, program, org etc. you join.
If you think negative then guess what?
If you want to fight, argue and complain then guess what?
Why would anyone complain about a company that charges you $0 to own your own online business forever?
Don’t be so quick to act as an expert unless you have what it takes to back it up.
Ginny is right, you can’t please everyone.
Some people just luv an argument.
I like the fact that you express yourself, But come on people…..
I don’t really understand how everyone considers a collection of someone else’s affiliate links a ‘business.’ I’m going to join MPM and try and get a bank loan for my business. I think it will go really well.
Keep thinking that way Reg, I’m sure Ginny is proud. You don’t own anything. She’s offered you the opportunity to shop, spend money and she profits ! Who’s slice of the pie would you like more . her’s or your’s .Sure she started the company, to make money for herself. You can join CJ too. Bottom line. She collects a % off of every sale. Why do you think she and her pals only need 10 or 15 people in their frontline s for ? If and when you make $25.00 in commission, she’ll tack on a $3.00 fee to send you her check. Why because ,she makes more then if she let paypal handle the payments.
Go to Commission Junction. Read how things really work. She was in So. Cal at the cj university to see how she could get even more. Be real.
Where is the celeb she was getting to Help promote the site ? What happened to grocery cards, TV and radio ads, Whats going on with the debit card where she’ll get a percentage as well. What happened to 100.000 members by Sept. Wake up and smell the coffee. Do you really think I care about people like her / no way,,But if we can educate people like you from being blind with false hope ,Your darn right I’ll keep pushing her ! She has a MLM background,,she’s a pro at spinning things her way. She only gets a small bite ? when your biting into a dinosaur, even the smallest bite is huge! She said it .a couple hundred checks go out. You involved with over 45,000 people . Those percentages suck! new business or not ..If your on a lower rung..you lose!
Your all getting upset about nothing. People generally sign up for these things, realize after awhile they aren’t making anything and quit on their own. When people got to wait for the money, get the run around and get fed a lotta cr#p, they wise up on their own. let it go……. You’ll never talk some of these people out of the hunt for easy money. Let it go lads and ladies.After they invest either time ,or money and see no or little return ,maybe even the thick minded will see the facts. I myself would have like to hear what she said about the charity biz. She never did respond. But this debate is fruitless ,some will never except help!
Joe, bless your heart. You’ve saved me a ton of time. I can just link to your article instead of trying to explain, over and over, that the members cannot, collectively, make money when they have to shop to put the money in. Great article.
I’d also like to point out that the bottom of the Powermall site says:
“Registered with the Better Business Bureau”
First, the text is formatted to look like a link, but it isn’t a link. Second, MPM is NOT a member of the BBB. I think the fuzzy use of the term “registered” is intentionally deceptive to provide undeserved credibility.
That said, I do fairly well in affiliate marketing from my content websites. Most of my income in this arena comes from Amazon, CJ, and LinkShare. I have never seen a price difference on ANY of these sites by going through an affiliate link. So if I AM going to buy something at Buy.com, it doesn’t hurt me to use the affiliate link. Sometimes, too, the link has a special offer landing page like free shipping or something.
So, I’d say ***IF*** you are buying something from a particular online store anyway, it does no harm to USE an affiliate to get there.
Ginny, I know that you’ve given up on Andrea and others, but I wonder if you would take the time to accurately answer the concerns they have raised? I’m very interested in My Power Mall, and my goal is an extra $200 a month (not looking to get rich), but I would like to know the answers to the issues raised here. You did an excellent job of answering the first round of questions!
Thanks in advance for your time.
Billy ,If your looking for an extra few bucks a month, just keep checking the reviews of people who’ve actually tried them . This site alone has made some kool selections . I’d rather trust somebody who’s been there. Joe has posted some pretty direct recommandations. Have ya checked them out ? The key is research. And thanks for the bbb tip Alison.
If she’s waited this long withouta response , let it go ya’ll . Move on .lol
Hi guys,
I’m gonna just say this. yous guys is arguing an she’s sittin back. Ain’t it strange, not one of her peeps have said how much they was makin? If any of hers ,hit the screen with some actual proof that they’re making stratch.hell .I’d be on that Sh*t quick. I got people in Fla. anyone lookin for some nice property?
i’m out , Tino B
Wow! I have so much to learn! Thanks for the invaluable forum for sharing information and personal experiences about online “work” and “business opportunities.” I am looking for real, legitimate data entry work and therefore will try the sites you listed. I will be happy to report my results.
Why is it , that when the questions get tough or uncomfortable, the people that operate these “businesses” throw up their hands and say nothing like we all are pitiful? I salute you all for posing the tough questions. To bad The women never gave a definitive answer. But then again she didn’t lie when she said she was going to “give us the Business” did she ? Oh wait , she said “our own business.” Good thing she wasn’t offering shares in a gold mine …
When I saw MPW web site I also thought I would give it a try since it was free and no skin off my back. I do not blindly buy stuff without doing searches myself, so I figure…ok it’s free. If I find it elsewhere with better deal I will do so. If I find something unique at MPM that I can’t find in my little ol’ W. TX town then I will buy it and earn rebate.
The part that made me stop was that I had to turn over my social security number without knowing first if I would earn enough for them to send me $$$ and therefore report earnings to IRS.
I am so skiddish about turning over SS# with my name address, etc… no matter how secure they say the site is.
Maybe other Home based business do this also but I just could not get over that. I mean…what if I bow out soon afterwards and decide it’s not right for me and I won’t really make much money anyway? I have just turned over the #1 most sought after personal ID for identity theft. I wish these companies would not collect that until you come within the $600 they have to report. I would at least feel a little better having had time with the company and see if I was going to turn it into a little side business. I just feel uneasy after paying out $10k to a lawyer a few years ago due to an identity theft I once had. That was a nightmare to untangle for sure!
In fairness, I am not sure it is just MPM that has this practice of requiring SS# upfront. Am I correct?
Hey, you don’t have to give your SS# anymore. MPM quit asking for that several months ago. Now you just need to give it to them once you have made over $500. They figure you will trust them by then and know MPM really works.
I’ve been watching all this and was amazed when Ginny answered at all. I can promise you she isn’t dodging hard questions. She answers them every day in her daily updates. She’s just too busy to do everything! My Power Mall is growing so fast. 57,000 members in only 6 months! I’ve never seen anyone as committed to making a company great for all its members.
I’ve been around for a few months and my team is growing every day. I got my first check last week. It wasn’t big but it was a start and I know it will just get bigger as my team grows. MPM isn’t a get rich quick thing but it’s for real and it was totally FREE for me to start. How can that not be a good thing?
I bought all my kids school supplies and just bought their Halloween costumes. I lvoe shopping online because I’m just too busy to run to the Mall.
I think everyone should get their own Mall. Why not? It’s FREE!
Sandi
Hi Sandi , Thanks for stepping forward.Just one question ok? If you were to lay out your Team tier by tier , would it resemble a pyramid ? next question , has to be , who earns more ? the guy o n the bottom ,or the ones on top of the pyramid? I’m suppose Ginny Dye is sitting on top. rightfully so , since she started the pyramid. How much time have you put in / how much return on your time ? I seen others say it’s a new company and all , but if I go to work tomorrow at a new grocery store ,I get paid for my work regardless. Also , I advise everyone of you supporting MPM to look into Commission Junction. If you check you’ll see where MPM gets the stores for the mall. Many stores offer a 10% commission. But Mpm is only splitting up about 7% among the 9 tiers. where do you suppose the other 3% is going ? Your also being told that it’s an advantage for you to get the Imedia package. I believe the monthly rate is $29.95. How much in sales will your need need to generate for you to earn enough in commissions for you to recoup that $29 ? The same holds true of the debit card. $10.00 initial fee plus $5 to reload . So next month you’ll be asked to spent $44.00 to promote Ginny Dyes list of affiliates and pyramid upon which she sit on top . If your comfortable with that , so be it.
I’ll leave you with one last thought. out of the 50,000 + members , how many remain active ? I’d venture to say less then a third . Probably closer to 25%. You see ,I too was an excited member. Then I continued to do my homework, and after reading and re-evaluating ,discovered Ginny Dye as much as she profess to believe won’t have the numbers she was hoping for. She has already missed her mark badly of 100,000 by Sept.
I wish you well, but I wonder if maybe your head is so filled with images that are really realistic, that your being blinded to the reality of it all. I’m afraid this bird doesn’t fly. If you want to make money , this site your on now recommends an ebook by John Chow. It’s free and it works. Irecommendit too.
Best of luck.. and remember to look before you leap!
Laura Bonner
I checked out Commission Junction , Thanks Laura. I saw the numbers you were talkin about. Iapplied for an acct. ,But I think you need a web site that supports adverts.
I don’t know what PM commisions are but , if you got to split them 9 ways, it seem like you’ll need mega membership before it works.
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I thought I saw some numbers posted here b’fore. I was right,
quote:
“It’s site claims that MPM isn’t a MLM and according to the legal definition it probably isn’t. In fact it’s a pyramid scheme. Precise definitions are hard to come by. It’s interesting to note that the levels of MPM only go to level 9. By level 11 the number of participants exceeds the population of the U.S. At level 13 it’s more than the world’s population. It’s simply unsustainable and the only ones who profit are the ones who start it.”
Refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
With those numbers do they think it will work more then like a few bucks here or there? I don’t think Trump has the “wait till my company grows up attitude and lets see.” As with any successful business, if it doesn’t produce , dump it ,start all over and move on .Maybe that’s what laura was saying about your bird not flying?
The more you look at it with an open mind, it’s a dud.
Tino
Wow! I just have to say kudos to all of you that give these scammers a run for their money! It’s awesome to know that my belief that people are inherently good still stands true. I just hope that more people will be educated on these types of schemes… you know that saying “…a sucker born every minute.” Well, Ginny and her crew should make it part of their mantra.
Raven took the words right out of my mouth when shes said, “She only gets a small bite ? when your biting into a dinosaur, even the smallest bite is huge!”
I have a finance and sales background and it doesn’t take a large percentage to make big money. I know many of you mentioned that Ginny didn’t reach her goal of 100,000 (thank goodness:) But even her reaching that 40,000 mark is pretty significant… Let’s do the math, hypothetically- for all the non-believers and those still in it for the bucks, be it big or small.
Let’s just say on a good day 30,000 people spent a $100 each on “their OWN website” and let’s just say Miss Dye’s SMALL percentage is a whopping 1% (which I highly doubt)…hmmm? 30,000×100= $3,000,000 x 1%,That’s a mere $30,000 in ONE DAY!! WOO HOO! But hey, of that she gives you a whole $220 Discount, not really COMMISSION, on all your hard efforts! Not to mention she’s traveling first class and emailing you on her $4,000 laptop, that her members paid for. Nice…
And as Billy pleaded for Ginny to come back and add more of her smiley faces to defend this scheme… I plead that just ONE of her dedicated, “just want to make a LITTLE extra cash” business owners, tell me the chances of their so called downline bringing them that much cash in ONE YEAR!
Thanks JOE for sharing! BTW where did Linda go?
Ok, I’m off the soap box now and feel clean again
Ang
Gee! If you guys weren’t so ridiculous you would almost be funny. Actually, you are spreading lies that border on slander. You should be ashamed. While Ginny has chosen to not respond to your ridiculous allegations because she is busy making My Power Mall better for it’s now 59,000 members, that doesn’t mean that I can’t respond. I happen to know the “inside scoop” but I’m almost done responding to this nonsense too because none of you seem concerned with the truth – you just want to spread lies.
I’ll try though… Ginny flew passenger class on her latest trip, choosing a flight that took longer in order to save money. Her “$4000″ computer cost less than half of that – only bought after her 4 year old computer could no longer keep up with what she was asking it to do.
She and her 60 Founding Members worked for NOTHING for almost 5 years to make Together We Can Change The World and My Power Mall available to the world. She personally made less than $400 last month – determined that she will not make substantial money until all her members are making money first.
The 30% profit? Come on… Yes, she is providing this Mall free of charge to anyone who wants to join but you have to know there are substantial expenses to operate this kind of system. She operates 3 different servers, has 4 development teams around the world, and has 60 people who all are paid a very small % of the profits of the company. The lions share goes to the members but there is such a thing as cost of doing business. Your background in sales and finance should give you that information.
Will Ginny some day make a lot of money. I certainly hope so! Not only because she deserves it but because I know what she will do with it! She has 3 Foundations of her own – in addition to the corporate foundations. She is building orphanages in Africa, and well as working to put programs in our public schools that will empower youth to fulfill their dreams. What are YOU doing – except trying to spread lies and untruths.
By the way – you should check your math. The real figures work like this: 30,000 members spending $100 generates $3,000,000. The average Rebate % is 9% – meaning it generates $270,000 in commissions. Ginny takes 2.5% of that, or $6750. IF she took it. Money like that hasn’t been made yet – they are still building. But right now every penny she makes goes back to creating more tools for the MPM Members.
You know, for all of you who are working so hard to make My Power Mall look bad – I really feel sorry for you (when I’m trying to not be mad at you). You just can’t believe there may actually be a company that is trying to make a difference in the world – committed to doing business differently. The thing I’m glad about is that most people will never see this ridiculous garbage you are spewing out.
My Power Mall is full of members who are thrilled to have found a company that is truly different. I am one of them! I only hope all of you will decide to do something positive with your life instead of continuing this kind of nonsense.
Want to truly know more about this company. Go to http://www.togetherwecanchangetheworld.com, http://www.togetherwecanchangetheworldday.com, & togetherwecanchangetheworldpublishing.com. These are just a few of the websites dedicated to GIVING things to the world to make a difference. Take off your dark glasses and let some light shine in. You’ll find Ginny Dye is all everyone says she is!
Sandi
@ Angie: I don’t know what happened to Linda. We haven’t heard from her in a while.
To future commenters: we will continue to delete comments that make irrelevant personal attacks on Ginny. We’re not going to let this thread devolve into character assassination.
Can someone please help clarify why the debit card is considered a major moneymaker for the MPM members? If my understanding is correct, the initial cost for the card is $10.00 and $5.00 is charged everytime the card is “reloaded”. As an example, If I had a debit card for $400.00 and it cost $10.00 to activate it, I’ve now spent $410.00 to purchase food, gas, groceries, etc. that cost $400.00. When I reload the card, I’ve now spent $405.00 to purchase goods worth $400.00.
If the above scenario is correct, why would I or anyone else want to participate?
This is not a MPM message board. You can ask and get answers on the MPM members forum. Or by emailing the MPM administrators.
I’d be interested to know as well Dennis, But it seems like Mpm would rather that you ask the question in private . Wonder why ? Sandi , May I ask if you an admin . officer of MPM.? or employee maybe ???? hmmmmm.lol
No, I’m just a member who loves My Power Mall and is tired of posts made from a place of no knowledge. If you really want to know about the Debit Cards you just need to make sure you read Ginny’s Updates. She gives you ALL the information you are asking for. Since you know about the cards I’m assuming you know how to go to the Communication Forum. Read Saturday’s & Monday’s Update. You’ll find the answers are already there.
I caved. I joined MyPowerMall and… MrRebates. Again, I don’t shop online much, but I’m still tempted by the rebates. I read about another “My Power Mall”-like but I can’t find the article again. It was comparing that program to MPM; how they both have business and personal model. I used to google “My Power Mall review” and the article will pop right up. Now, when I do the same google, I just get a bunch of MPM affiliates. For some online stores, MPM has higher rebate than MrRebates; and for others, MrRebates has higher rebate. It’s not enough that we do research for lowest priced product; we now have to do research on coupon codes and which website gives us the highest rebate! For some stuff, these online hassles still beat driving to a local retailer.
For “newbies” who have never done ANY Internet Marketing, don’t know how to start, don’t want to risk the $$$ upfront I still say this is a great offer. I don’t care if they are making money off of my money. It’s not hurting me and I now have a comfort level that left me petrified when I started looking at intermet opportunites. My inbox is full of the “best offers” that are “not scams”. When you are new, Internet Business is like the Wild, Wild West. A lot of Indians and not sure who the sherrif is and if he has much power anyway. Everyone blasts everyone and you learn that everything seems to be a Scam in Internet land leaving you scared to try anything. Give me something risk free to test the waters with to start out and I don’t care if you are shaving profits off my commission sales. So far, I have liked the stores I am finding that I would never have thought of looking for previously. Found the perfect give for my great nephew that I could not have found otherwise unless I got out of my little town and drove 2 hours to the mega metroplex mall. Even then this toy is very unique and probably not in a brick and morter store. AND…as far as giving to charity, their is a child with her name and story on my webpage. IF they really are giving to charity that is just a nice bonus. Until they prove me wrong otherwise, I will believe they are doing this. IT’s still not taking money directly out of my pocket, so I don’t get the criticism. If you all want to learn about what the FTC doesn’t like, do what I did. Research it yourself! Find out what FTC looks for in illegal Pyramid marketing. Not charging to sign up people under you and moving product doesn’t seem to qualify here as far as I am concerned. It may have some similiarites in structure but they do have a point…it’s FREE. No product you must buy, no required marketing tools etc…Time will tell and I will be vocal if it proves otherwise. I am willing to be though that they want to stay in business. I am new at this, not directly connected to anybody and no particular loyalty to MPM (not yet anyway)…trust me. I have a full time office job in a Software company looking for a way to supplement my income or replace it one day if I get laid off.
Just my last 2 cents worth.
As an inactive Power Maller , Let me put share my opinions to you all. My time is my investment, my expenses for flyers , business cards etc. were my investment .My word to family and friends as well as business contacts were my investment.Free? You decide. When I was first presented with MPM I also thought it was a great idea. I still do believe that basically it’s capable of succeeding. Now ,I’m sure I’ll be ruffling a few feathers here but, it’s not the ideals of MPM that are holding it back, it’s those running the operation.
I too have seen for myself , those ready to appointment the founder ,as the next best thing since sliced bread. It’s true she may be sincere, but I don’t think she’s a capable leader. She HAS told members that MPM would venture into the mass media field and divide the new recruits among the 10+ club members. Months later, nothing has happened. Then she got everyone excited about grocery store cards. Well you guessed it, that was shelved so she could work on debit cards ,which WERE due on the 24th of Oct.
You guessed it, those cards won’t be happening either. Membership, was suppose to reach 100,000 by Sept. .Never happened! The list probably goes on and on.. This is what I can verify from personal experience.
I realize every new endeavor needs time to stand, but when is it enough time to stand on your own? MPM has failed to stand on it’s own. The computer system is loaded with bugs and glitches. Why? It’s because the people who put it together, though meaning well didn’t have the fore thought to anticipate these problems. They seem to be getting further behind rather then ahead.
For to make it, people have to spend money.
The figures your presented with the MPM calculator are based on numbers that in my own case were unattainable. I think most people aren’t spending until they make money. Funny, but if no one spends, nobody makes. So as an idea , I agree with the basis of MPM.,but I don’t see it succeeding until the right people are running the day to day operations. If Ginny says anything to me, well I’m sorry but after so many let down’s, I’m not sure if I could trust her. As far as MPM being on the level. that’s something you must decide. I believe it is. My days of 3-4 per spent promoting MPM are behind me.(If the company hired professionals to manage the company, I’d go back). This is the truth as I see it.
P.S. If this appears to be a personal attack on Ms Dye and her team, it’s not meant to be. It’s may be an attack on their capabilities as though.
Did you read the update letter explaining the credit card? She explained it very well. It’s to much to write up here but I was satisfied with her explanation. Apparantly, a promise was made to MPM with a date and so they put up money to get these co-branded cards. The bank pulled out and reniged on their agreement without notice or reason in email at the 11th hour. She seemed genuinly upset and apologized to all members, vowing that she has learned not give dates or even projections of dates until it’s a done deal. She decided to re-evaluate needs and is now looking for new sources for better co-branded credit card. Frankly, with all I read about the credit crunch going in the US market I am not surprised. She has vowed to not give up though and seeking new sources. I wish I could tell you the number of times a business alliance turned south on us creating a tailspin. I don’t know home based business, but I will tell you this is Corporate life. It hurts your business and you have to regroup and figure new plan. I know, it cost our company a lot of jobs.
I use my own source of credit and do not need their cobranded card to do what I intended to do when I signed up, so this is not an issue for me as a new member at least for now.
Having worked for major Corporatons at HQ offices for past 25 years. I did not pay much attention frankly to their sales goals of promising 100k by Sept. Why? I do Sales Support and Forecasting; work extensively with VP’s and managers establishing sales goals (still do with my current company). Let me tell you they are almost never met with accuracy. They do tend to set sales goals higher to make their organization strive harder and they frankly have false expectations sometimes. You can’t rely on those and hold them to it. We constantly rework our sales goals and formulate new plans based on making them or not making them and why. It’s a moving target, trust me. Upper managemetn just loves to put good looking numberson the board and I grin to myself when I know reality sets in. It’s a common affiliction with VP’s. They have a purpose but don’t set your heart on sales or numbers / projections or you are in for dissapointment. Throw in a new company with new people building a company with a different business model and you just will not get an accurate sales goal of membership. How can you guarantee numbers to your people? It’s not that easy. Focus on your own realistic sales goals with something like MPM and use your own judgement. Of course, you do need good managment support to help you get pointed in the right direction. I am waiting to see what that is like with MPM people.
I also take those calculators with a grain of salt as they say. I looked at it, smiled and really changed the numbers DOWN. I have a long term goal due to my hectic life, not a short term expectation of thousands of dollars rolling in. I recognize this is going to take some work if I want to really make a go of it. Otherwise…
It’s still a good place to shop regardless. I just bought a cool Red Wagon retro jet scooter that I love as a birthday present for my great nephew. I would have never found it elsewhere. I price shopped similar type scooters, not as cute though but more expensive. It was on sale and I was real happy at price I paid plus I another 7% to boot which eliminated my shipping cost. So here is my point. Don’t buy just to buy and think you have to. It’s money I would have had to spend somewhere anyway for Christmas. I could go elsewher and spend my money but found somethingt I really like at MPM. It doesn’t cost any money to keep the free web site so it’s pointless to give it up because I can’t sign up people to make big bucks. If anything, I buy stuff I need and I earn commissions and save a few bucks. No harm.
I don’t see how you have to spend money. IF you don’t already shop online then maybe it’s not for you. I know a lot of people who do though, especially for Christmas so this works. If the freinds and family I sign up don’t want to buy, I am not twistig their arm. I don’t oversell big promises, so I don’t have any guilt over my word. They can decide if this is a good deal for them or not.
It is good to know about glitches in the system amd I will watch my account & transactions carefully.
Hope you don’t think I am a MPM freak or employee. I just started recently and testing the waters. I just want to provide the flip side view from another member so others can see a different perspective and decide for themselves. It may not all work out but like I say, I see very little risk compared to the other million offers that flood my inbox daily.
Tons of Marketing fluff to sift through and they want money without understanding what the product really is…and those silly deadlines before the price goes up a hundred bucks. I am so burned out on that.
BTW, I know some folks in town that follow the same MLM model and small payouts (commission) for another product, but similar plan. One guy I know makes good money and I saw his check for $4k in one month (yes, a person I trust). I did not do this though because for now my time is so limited and no time to attend weekly meetings in hotels and living rooms. I know my limitations. This works better for me because I can send out email at 11pm. It’s easier since I am not asking anyone to put out $320 and $19 per month web site management fees. That is why they need the meetings…its harder to really convice people.
I am anxious to give this a fair shot and know I drive the wheel for the most part, but if it flop I will be the first to say so when it does. And if MPM Management lets me down trust me….I am a complainer.
Mabbiz, bravo, excellent letter . You do understand your shopping thru her list of affiliates don’t you ? If you check with Commission Junction as an earlier post suggested , you’ll see that many of the stores offer 10% commission. MPM is distributing 7% thru 9 levels. Do you realize that most every store will allow you to become an affiliate? If you do , you not she earn the entire 10% not a portion of 7%. You seem to be a well spoken individual, May I suggest you also look into your own affiliate programs?
If you understand marketing , you can’t help but see why it’s really not your advantage ,but her that you promote MPM. I spoke for myself when I said She wasn’t CEO material. My opinion is based purely on evidence I experienced. If you manage to make money that justifies the effort to promote her business, I salute you. I’ve seen more then my share of broken or discarded statements (all well intentioned I’m sure)By Ms Dye. Like I stated earlier , the idea is great, the leadership is totally lacking. Credibility, should be utmost. People can only get their hopes up so many times ,until they say enoughs, enough.
Yes MPM can work, but unless things at the top aren’t operated professionally, the body of the beast (you and the others ) May find your selfs all chasing your tails.
I know MPM is Ginny Dyes “baby” , but don’t we all want the best for our children?
I know she doesn’t have a big ego, but why cheat the company, by not going after leadership. With great leadership, it would succeed, and in turn so would her beloved pet projects!( the charities)
I know this sounds mean.. but this is business, and business lives in a world of reality ,not just on ideals alone! She can keep controling interest, just let someone else run it efficiently.
This is a very interesting! I recently signed on as MPM associate. I have other Affiliate and MLM marketing businesses.
I decided to partner with MPM because it really is an Affiliate Marketing clearing house.(My thoughts.) Instead of promoting hundreds of affiliates on my blogs & websites I just promote MPM where most of my affiliates are listed. I don’t mind the commission differences as my target group now has access to many other stores and will spend MORE money as a result.
I save time by promoting MPM instead of updating my blogs/websites with new banners, etc.
Once again, MPM is not a get rich quick business. However, it has great potential for steady income.
Hey all, I was just checkin Mypower Mall on Google and this here site popped up.
I never seen so many mall people arguin in one place. I been doin this since the biginning almost, I ain’t earned enough to make a check yet. But that’s on me. Iknow I ain’t active enough, but I got to agree about Jinny. She seems honest and all,but can somebody tell me how to turn her voice off the home page. I had a few of my budds tell me they couldnt get past her voice. And with all the problems they ben havin with they computers i don’t like it.
I told lots of folks bout the debit cards,they said they don’t feel comfortable about giving them any money. When is them cards comin out ? Thought it was this month. I know this is the beginin but when is ginny gonna get them records and such straight? I may not know compters but if jinny was drivin one of my cars and gettin smoked ever race ,I’d say time for a new driver. But, it’s her car, so , if she wants to keep it in 2nd gear till it burns her tranny out, let her do it. sometimes I feel like I was selling avon door to door lol but it
Didn’t cost me nuttin, I got nuttin so were even . Maybe if she sells the mall business , it could be better, like Macdonalds did. one thing more why ya all here lookin at scams if ya’ll so high on power mall? weird ain’t it. mean I looked up MPM scams and this came up…what ya’ll doin here? keep the faith ..Billy ! yo jinny
Ex MPM…Thank You, I liked my letter to.
Yes of course I realize she is making a cut and I could get higher affiliate income elsewhere. Let me try to say this AGAIN. Call it what you want, affiliate income, rebate, commission…it’s money back for buying or selling someone else’s product.
1. I have been to the site but do not have time to explore commission juncion in depth, or all the other places for affiliate marketers. This is because unlike most other people I have very few hours in the day right now. If I go to commission juction I find links that lead to more links that I would have to spend quite a bit of time reading through to figure out how I turn this into a business and it’s really overwhelming when you first start out. I have never even put up a web site. This is my free no risk opporunity to start learning something with what little time I have with full time job and taking care of elderly folks not to mention other time crunchers in my life. Therefore like other services in life you choose to pay a premium instead of doing it yourself even though you know you can save more money. Sometimes the price of a product is not the only worth or marketability. TIME savings is a valuable tool to market as a justification to price. Instead of charging me for MPM is shaving off my commission to afford to offer those tools (web site, marketing tools, training sessions etc..). You are only looking at one facet or component, the commission rate. I am willing to loose percentage that right now to start some right away that took 10 minutes to understand.
My company is highest price for the software we sell. But we package services, reporting tools that others do not so we are able to justify the expense as a time savings tool for busy companies that do not have time nor inclination to do that on their own. We find other partners for them as well so they don’t have to go out and do that, leaving them time to manage their core business. That is kind of the stage I am in right now. I may not be getting as much as I can but I am not paying out hardly anything either so no harm done.
2. I would have never discovered all the interesting unique retailers on MPM on my own. I never knew for example Radio Flyer had their own unique store, or that igourmet had an extensive list of products. I found hand made gourmet cakes and desserts that were way cool for gifts. My sister is also very excited that she has already found presents for Christmas that are new and unique. I don’t have time to hit up all these people direct, get web sites blogs etc…going right now. I realize MPM is NICHE Shopping! I am going to take note of these retailers and send out emails to my donwline folks and use it as a tool to attract new people. I don’t mean to be rude but I am burning time now at midnight with saying the same things different ways when I should be emailing 2 more women I know about this.
I am not saying this is right for you or everybody. I think MPM is right for some people and not for others. Their are some pictures of people with testimonials on the site that are succesful so it’s working for some people.
As I learn I may expand out into other affliate mktg, but it’s a very difficult time for me to devote a lot of time to learning this all.
Good Luck with whatever you do. I have got to stop responding though to these as I have to clean out my emails and Work on my plan for MPM.
Tigerlily just proved my point by the way.
Can someone please explain what the Status delinquent
in this report on Ginny’s charity means.. I’m very concerned ! Are we being decieved ?
This came from the state of washington
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Mailing Address:
58 Lake Louise Drive
BELLINGHAM WA 98229 Street Address:
58 Lake Louise Drive
BELLINGHAM WA 98229
Registration #21433
Status Delinquent
Also Known As Name(s) One-Time Fundraising
Shop For Charity Day
Phone (360)756-5233
Fax (360)756-5240
Email ginnydye@earthlink.net
Web Site http://www.shopforcharityday.com
Federal EIN 20-2531364
The following financial information has been provided to the Office of the Secretary of State by the above-named organization. Figures are for the organization’s fiscal year ending Apr 30, 2006.
Contributions $7,540 According to the financial information shown at left, 70% of the contributions raised by this organization were returned to or retained by the charity client(s).
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I know this will probly get deleted but I’m gonna tell you the truth about MPM.First hand!
I been a member of the MPM program since the end of May. I have over 70 sign ups in my downline, and over $2000.00 in sales. To date ,I’ve received zero back. I’ve followed all the steps including writing the Admin office. They never write back. I have friend who get no answer either.
Since I have some experiance, my opinion is MPM plain SUCKS. It’s over-hyped, and it’s die hard followers are like little leemings. Fortunatly , most members get wise before to long.
Ginny Dye ,can never seem to deliver on any of the main goals SHE”S proposed. First it was grocery cards,then debit cards.. Where’s the TV,and radio ads, where’s the 100,00 by Sept. ? It’s all B.S.! Where did Rev. maltass go? He was suppose to set up a damn mentoring program. I think he bailed too.
Unless ,you live in a cloud , MpM sucks.
That’s My opinion.
Poof ..I’m gone!
P.S. who gives a crap about Ginny and her sick dogs and wet computers ? How lame is that from a CEO ! Enough with the bs stories. Show us The money .
U have cross the line.
IF u dont care about animals u got serious problems
send me ur email and i will respond to u
Why would you want my email? I don’t care about your pets either ! lol.j/k
People sign up to make some extra money, not listen to her talk about dogs. Tell it to your vet , not your business assoiciates. What’s next? Bill gates yappin about hemerroids. The family ,”we’re all brothers and sister stuff” is fine, but not when Mall owners are trying to figure this all out. besides she ain’t my friend, neither is my boss. If i want convo like that, I’d invite her for BBQ. Someone made the same point about her voice.. Sometimes less is more. I guess I’m one of those she will tell you is never satisfied , well That’s not true. She’ll never accept the fact that she’s a disappointment to many. Not all but Many!
she has yet to admit when she screws up. it’s always a giltch or the vendors ,or the moon is out of wack. .. When will somebody come on here with proof that there making anything close to what she’s promoting. Like the figure of people spending 150 a month in their malls. It’s probably more like 10 or 15.
Most of us weren’t looking to get rich, just a few extra bucks…it ain’t happening.
Grrrrrrrr.
Give me your email reg and I’ll send you a copy of “ol yeller” to weep over. lol
stay cool and Peace!
Good to have a place to debate the real facts,,,thank you guys.
You guys make interesting arguments. I wonder if we’ll peak Ginny’s interest and she’ll come back with something interesting to say.
If you have really interesting stuff, we need to verify it through a legitimate email address for checking copyright questions and whatnot. No matter how interesting something might be, we won’t publish an unverified source.
Ask the source herself.. We’d love to see her try to deny this one!!!!!! It is interesting. Either way the end of the month will draw nearer, weather or not ……… Good to know your sources are verifed though.. Just attach a smiley face on our collective ass …our work goes on either way! Save the web!!!!
I first posted on this subject Sept.15…
In the 2 months that have now pasted, not one person has presented evidence That MPM members are making more then a few dollars. At the time I got a reply from Ginny Dye with all the smiley faces and cutesy “kumbaiya” propaganda.
The Subject was rightly listed as
“MY POWERMALL ,WHERE”S THE POWER?”
In 8 month’s the same question arises.
Where is the power?
I have a question for anyone in the know.
What is the attrition rate of MPM? By that I mean, how many peoplewho have signed up, remain active today ?
Also of the 75,000 plus members, how many actually made a purchase thru the mall system in Sept or Oct. ? 5000? 6000? or are the numbers much lower ?
I happen to know the answer now!
Will Ginny Dye deny the numbers, or create new ones? Beware Ginny,unless there are 2 Ginny Dyes in the world I wouldn’t try lying or exaggerating!
People your effort are better served by focusing and something other then my power mall. Believe it or not , no Ginny ,I’m not obsessed with seeing you fail. But someone has to be honest with these people. Who want’s to wait until years have past, all your team has abandoned you , and your nowhere near being compensated for your time or effort ??
Ginny , I ask you to re-read your own post on this site , from back in Sept.
In these past months , has anything changed ?
How many people are getting paid? Are there still on average 750 members a month with missing sales ? ( 1% is your figure hon, though I think it has to be higher!)How many members with a number lower then 35,000 are still active ? When you “cut out the dead wood” from your membership for not spending , how will they feel about the claim of free op.? Why do you go behind peoples backs and send letters to MPM members with more then 10 people on their teams telling them don’t share this letter or info with anyone? If you read between the lines here people, this is the same old tired story . The people on top win, the bottom feeders get cut loose and everyone in the middle get’s the shaft.
Bravo Andrea,
I’m so sick of My Power Mall telling me to shop more and more with every update. Enough already!!!
I’m just waiting until my sales all go through and I’m going to leave MPM. Your exactly correct, I too spent endless hours promoting my mall and I’ ve only earned about $18.00 in 4 months time.. They tell you it’s not a get rich thing , but I was hoping it would at least pay the paper boys bill . HAHA !
I joined another mall business called BigCrumbs.
I got my first payment today. Not much, but at least it pays 35% on the first level instead of 7%. It’s smaller, but no computer foul ups to report ! I spent $27.00 and got $1.28 off that purchase alone through Target. The 9 lines on MPM are almost impossible to achieve.
Thanks for let me tell my story.
Charlene B.
Tulsa Ok.
Nobody is getting drop from MPM…Read this!
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Hello everyone,
There are several reasons members become inactive.
The mall owner decided they did not want to be part of MPM – for whatever reason. That is their option!
Spamming member in MPM with cross-recruiting e-mail (Corporate action)
Spamming the system with multiple sign-ups from same IP address (Corporate action)
Among other reasons listed in your contract (located in your back office)
I really don’t understand #1 since this program will never cost you a dime. We have inactive members with active downlines. Que? Oh well, it’s their choice.
You will never be deactivated for lack of shopping — but you won’t earn an income either. Hint, Hint!!!
Use the system as intended and you will never need to worry about being deactivated by Corporate.
Best of success to all of you!!!
Owen
After reading all these varied postings, I couldn’t resist jumping in once to add my two cents worth. In my 26 years of working with mostly technology based organizations (Yes, the PC or Apple were not commercially around when I started my career and Al Gore had not invented the internet yet;-), there have been a couple of constants. One is companies always over promote and rarely deliver everything they promise and two, systems/processes are never perfect. Yes, there are several more but these are adequate for this posting.
Many of the postings are rather vicious to say the least. Some of them are making statements that are clearly based on mis-guided or mis-informed knowledge. Some are just plain dumb. Sure, this holds true for most internet business oriented blogs/message boards.
I am a Power Mall operator. I started less than one month ago, I now have twelve in my first tier and no, I haven’t made any real money to speak about yet. I really do not expect to make any until I have a decent 4th tier building. Realistically, my goal is $1000 a month income in twelve months. Now, the MPM has only been online since March of this year. I just did a quick glance at the list of malls with 10 or more and it is pretty extensive. The biggest number was a little over 600. Not bad. What are they bringing in? I don’t know buy I suspect they would share the details if I asked.
Now I am prety new to the internet marketing world and I made one big mistake that has cost me more than I care to admit. I also look at a lot of these MLMs, list builders, and the myriad of malls, ebay resellers, and so on. The reality is most don’t succeed and many loose money, some more than others.
The blasting of MPM is I suppose to be expected. I suspect some of the posters are running competitive malls. I joined MPM for several reasons. It did not require a membership investment, it has a tremendous store selection, it is a program that you will not get hurt on and therefore, I feel good telling friends and family about it, and finally, I do see that I will achieve my previously stated goal in the time frame I expect.
As for the percentages listed on direct site affiliates versus what MPM pays, it goes back to the business model. I know organizations have to make money and I know they will. Also, the clearing houses used take a piece of the pie much like credit cards do. If this is news to some, then look in to it.
Blasting the prices available from the MPM stores is really not worth commenting on but here it is anyway. No MPM member is forced to use the mall. The stores do not inflate the charges just for the mall. (remeber, the sites are the same as if you surfed to them directly). MPM members actually get deals form some stores that want to promote themselves. If you don’t see a good deal for the item you are looking for, don’t buy it!!!
I do believe that a lot of the malls are owned by internet marketing people that run multiple businesses or have at least tried. I believe the real users (buyers) haven’t really been tapped. Those that shop online but aren’t tuned in to this whole internet marketing thing. I am taping into some of those demographics now and expect excellent returns.
I kept reading Pyramid as if that was a terrible thing. A Pyramid and MLM are a couple of the best marketing concepts of the ages. Were they abused by the likes of Amway and others, you bet. With that said, the concept is quite good and when done legally, works great. There is no restriction for that mall owner at the “bottom” of one person’s Pyramid to not be at the top of their own. The reality is you create multiple “Pyramids” that you can get paid from to 9 levels. Yes, the numbers get pretty astronomical at the 7 through 9 levels as someone earlier pointed out. Of course, the reality is there will be attrition, people don’t buy online ever month. Many will not give any malls away, etc…
As for the charity issues, 75% is a pretty good rate. I would like to see it at 85% but this does not motivate me one way or the other as it relates to my mall.
I enjoyed everone’s opinions on this board and look forward to future comments.
Alan,
I see you have all the vim and vigor every new member starts off with. I hope it works for you.
What no one has mentioned yet that MPM is a numbers game for one reason. That reason is because it’s human nature that people will sign up for something and after a while quit for lack of results, interest, or no response..
We live in a society where everything need to happen immediately.
Ginny Dye , is a terrific motivator, but has disappoint so many . She’s lead people to believe thing will be so Rosy , yet nothing changes.
you’ve been in it a month, others 6 months and have met every requirement needed , and still haven’t gotten credited for sales. Yes by Ginny’s own admission , people haven’t gotten credit.
She’s failed us on grocery cards, debit cards, and the celebrity endorsement she said would be happening.
Instead we get updates loaded with her own human interest stories , and testimonials telling us that other people think she the next Oprah.
It’s sickening. She’s (my opinion) the reason why MPM will never succeed! She lacks the skills to run the company. With this many problems in a young company, what can we expect if the company was to ever reach the hundreds of thousands?
The question about attrition rate was valid . I’d like to know the answer myself. Based on my own mall. Not one of over 100 of my downline has shopped in over 2 months.
Good luck to you. I just wish I’d found this forum before I’d started with MPM.
BTW after 6 months , I haven’t received a penny!
I know for a fact , my experiance is not unique. It’s happening in more cases then not.
I’ve even had some religious minded folks do research and tell me they would never support Ginny herself from a regilious stand point.
I did my own and see why. So ,people will find there own reasons ! It’s human nature! It didn’t work for me and it hasn’t worked for anyone I know (over 125). So Alan I hope your the exception. But I wonder …….
Go out there Alan, be the one in 125 ,I know who’s going to make a thousand a month. Lol .Call me if you ever make $50.00 a month. Now How’s that for motavation. Ginny didn’t lie when she said you can’t please everyone! She never said there were so many of us out here though. .I guess we’re all wrong and you and about 3000 others out of 75,000 ( she counting cancelled malls as well in that figure)are right!
See ya..I’m going to Wal-Mart with my “web coupon”, and my Discover rewards card to do my shopping! HMMMMMMMMMM. did I just save more ?
Me again,
Alan …this statement you made won’t hold true past the middle of January 08
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“Blasting the prices available from the MPM stores is really not worth commenting on but here it is anyway. No MPM member is forced to use the mall.”
She’s already come up with plan to terminate the malls of people who don’t shop every month! Read your updates! So I guess you will be forced to shop…..opps gotcha !
I happened upon this very interesting back and forth debate.And even though I’m not familiar with this company, one thing I do know.If you don’t put your money where your mouth is, people will not trust you.I’m writing an ebook titled Trust Inc.And for good reason. People are getting fed up with all the marketing hype, false expectations and broken promises.Years ago I got ensnared with a mlm company that later went down.They got sued big time, for frontloading.If companies will build their business on the foundation of trust they will be around to endure the ongoing obstacles that face any business.It is amazing how many companies will overlook this simple but profound truth.I hope each one of you find your dreams come to fruition.
Ok, I have read all the opinions stated. Here is my point of view. My children’s father is determined to go “diamond” in a real MLM. He spends about $700 a MONTH to reach his set spending “level”… He is totally dedicated going to all the “meetings” and expensive “conferences” and maintaining his levels. I on the other hand, do not make the income to maintain $700 a month in purchases of vitamines and energy drinks…. That said, I am an AVID online shopper, and VERY picky too boot.
When my sister presented this idea to me, I got excited! ebay is a #1 shopping soarce for me…. but how many times has am item I am bidding on goes DOUBLE the price it costs in the store and then they pay hefty shipping! My opinion is that those people are NUTS. Then the seller fees at ebay, they can cost from $0.55 a listing to $75+ a listing! So many fees and people STILL SELL ON EBAY, not to mention the paypal fees.
MPM offers so many unique ideas for shopping, you can even buy gift cards for yourself to use (even the walmart equivelant, kmart) So you can earn great rebates even shopping in a store. As for the “Prepaid” visa, those fees are for ALMOST any prepaid visa ANYWHERE even outside MPM (so you are knocking prepaid visa’s, not Ginny) Most stores offer shipping discounts and FREE shipping, you just need to learn to shop online. (I made so many blunders in the beginning of my online days)
I have bought TV’s, books, memberships etc…. JUST BECAUSE they offered me a rebate…. and 9 times out of 10 I would lose some important detail or not meet requirements to obtain my “rebate”.
At least at MPM I can’t lose anything and my rebate still gets to me. As for the $3.00 check processing fee, alot of people pay more at a check cashing DIVE than that.
These rebates are great, any way I looked at it. So I am happy. There will be NAY SAYERS in everything! The power of the spoken word is awesome! Say I can do it, and you most likely will… Say I can’t do it, and you most likely won’t. It is a mind set. Depends what mindset you have. I choose to say I can…
By the way, I was going to buy a MyTwinn doll for my daughter for Christmas, almost bought directly from their site when I found it in MPM, get the rebate now. Win win for me.
Thanks for trying to open my eyes to the down side. AND I am not meeting a PV quota I CAN’T AFFORD…
All fine,,,but isn’t this suppose to be a business? How much is everyone making? I can clip coupons and shop at club stores to save money.But if they claim it’s a business, HOW MUCH ARE YOU EARNING? TODAY, not 5 freakin years down the road. I’m so sick of reading the same crap..Show us the money or quit repeating the same ol same ol.
Ain’t this somethin……..I just went to check them out……..”server unavailable”. Wow real professional. Along with the complaints on their other glitch problems, I say forget it!Maybe they booked……..
J.N.
The server is down due to an software upgrade. They have not “booked”.
Here is a message from Ginny I recieved this morning….. Form letter or NOT I was informed of the server going down!
Dear Gloria,
You’ll get your Update later today but I’m popping in now to let you know we’re aware of the Server being down and are working hard to get it back up. We had to update a part of our software to accomodate a new release we’re working on. We were assured this would not happen but… Techonology does not always comply with our wishes! I’m sorry, and please know we’re working hard on it!
Ginny Dye
I run into sites alot that are “down” get over it.
Ok … So Now Where is the money? Post some figures. How much have you all made in the time you’ve been with Mrs.Dye ? $200.00 per month? 300? Show us thew money!!!!!
If someone could produce evidance of a decent figure, this whole debate would end! If not don’t go telling everyone that same tired B.S. about young company, and long range forecasts! Charity begins at home.
To quote Scott above:
“People are getting fed up with all the marketing hype, false expectations and broken promises.”
Unless you’ve got proof about this MPM crap …Your point is weak and of no use to anyone!
Proof,Proof,proof! You guys are like a broken record! post Proof of income!
Why all the anger (and debate)? Did some of you get burned in the past with some business venture (like most of us at one time or another)? If MPM is not for you then just move on. To me, those who are angry are like a broken record.
For those who are working MPM – time will tell how profitable it will be. Until then, be smart and don’t put all your eggs in one basket. I am a MPM member but have several other business ventures that bring in income.
Stay positive.
MPM member here and I HAVE gotten my first check! Again, just $25 but not bad for passive income. It does take a while, but I knew that The first check isn’t paid out till you reach $25.00 but then each month it will increase.
I have looked on my ‘back page’ under sales for a detailed commission report for this month(updated to the 20th) and it’s doubled already this month–and I have 10 days left!
When it doesn’t work is when you have people in your group who don’t shop. If you bring on 10 members youll be lucky to find 4 who shop. That’s been my reality so I just needed to increase my numbers. When I recruit now that I make certain that they understand they have two things to do: Shop and Give Away malls.
I’ve also gotten many items without a shipping charge! And got things at prices that were less than my local store. But, like any mall you have to shop around for the bargains. I find the ‘information booth’ useless because it can never seem to find what I’m looking for and yet when I go to the stores I’ve found EVERYthing I’m looking for.
Are there growing pains? Of course. I’ve owned a regular business and yes, there are always growing pains. But is Ginny sincere and working hard at this? I absolutely believe that a 100%.
If you don’t like Ginny’s daily updates–unsubscribe for heaven’s sake! I happen to enjoy them! If you don’t like listening to Ginny’s voice on the web page hit -’turn off audio’–I did.
I do think that in a year’s time–if I treat this like a business–that I will have a very nice passive income. The only $ amount I’ve invested is in business cards and I printed out my own flyers. She gives you all the marketing materials you need. And, they’re all very well done.
So if you are a jaded person this isn’t for you. But, if you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I think you’ll be very happy!
Thanks for the information Sondra. Would you be willing to share with us ,how much time it’s taking you per month to promote? Also I still Find the unanswered issue of the delinquent charity a little disheartning.I’m actually surprised Jeannie Dye didn’t come back to at least respond to that issue!
I too, looked into Power Mall, but decided to try BigCrumbs.com. instead.
Very similar I suppose , but we get paid monthly ,without a commission level to meet. I believe I read Power mall waits until you’ve earned $15. We’re smaller ,but no of the baggage I’ve read here about power Mall.
Happy Holidays to all,and much success!
peace!
Lis
I am a recent MPM person – and two things absolutely amaze me as I read most of the foregoing posts. The first is the bitterness and anger of so many who have no affiliation with MPM. The other is the obvious lack of business acumen by those former MPM’ers who criticize the system and the lack of money they made. One even exclaiming that they had 125 people underneath them and had not made any money.
Well big whoop. Do you know what it probably cost her to get 125 people? Nothing – because MPM is free. And do you know how much effort it should have taken to get 125 people to accept a free mall? Not much. If this person got 5 friends or relatives to sign up – and each of them got an average of just two people to sign up (ie. either by each of the five getting two – or more likely a couple of them getting five and the other three doing nothing) – and that process continued – say with a “slippage” at the 4th level with the 10 people at level three only getting 15 – then 30 at the fifth level and 60 at the 6th level – you get your 125. But if they only spend an average of $25 per month – with many doing nothing – then your rebate would be less than $25 per month. Somehow I think she just got a few sign ups doing nothing to encourage use of the system. And then with the negative attitude – got exactly what she expected. Funny how life tends to work that way.
And the same applies to the person that touted 70 sign ups and $2,000 spent since the end of May. That’s five months and an average purchase of $400 per month by 70 people. Hmmm…. An average of a little over $5 per month per person. And just how much commission do you expect from that!?
Yes — Ginny does have a problem that she seems to be trying to correct with inducements to encourage purchases. And what, pray tell, is wrong with that. To read some of the posts you would think that making a purchase off of one’s own site was giving away money instead of using a simple free system to save time and money to buy things you need and would buy anyway. I have made a few purchases at MPM – and at very good prices – such as a buy 2 get 1 free on paper at OfficeMax that I needed – with FREE shipping — that was delivered the next day. So if I do not earn a dime on people down line from me – I still saved the cost of the gasoline and time of going to OfficeMax – so where’s the foul?
It is beyond me why people want to scream about something that is given to them for free – that they can use themselves to save money – and probably get a rebate in the future. And IF they strive to give free malls to others – and encourage them to use the MPM to shop – it COULD result in significant income. And shopping of course IS the key for three reasons. First it saves the time and money of going to a store to buy; secondly it builds the credibility and impact of the system so that it will likely attract more retailers and higher commission being offered to the system. And thirdly — from a business perspective – ONLY if the average purchase is reasonably high – can one make serious money with the system.
I would rather get 3 people who get 3 people who get 3 people down 9 levels that average $250 per month in buying things they NEED at MPM – than to get 10 people who get 10 people, etc. that only spend an average of few dollars per month. Do the math.
As for those of you casting stones and “worrying” about some “delinquent” payment to a charity – uh – and just how many thousands of dollars have you been donating to charities? Or is your time better spent criticizing those who are out trying to make a positive difference in the world?
And lastly for you astute business folks who say that Ginny is not a good manager – how many of you could even think up a good business plan – much less launch a company that has a sophisticated web site and over 80,000 members in only a few months of operation?
Anyone reviewing these posts – beginning with those opposed — and comparing the comments of Ginny and her supporters can obviously see a major dichotomy. With one group having good attitudes and believing they CAN –and the other with negative attitudes and believing they CAN’T. As Henry Ford said, “Whether you think you can or think you can’t, either way you are right.” So at least the Nay Sayers can thump their chest and say, “Yeah – we are right!”
Well said, Bob!
well said DR BOB.Way to go, on avoiding the issue of the delinquent charity status in the State of Washington, and the fact that after the first of the year MPM will require you to spent money online .Way to go with avoid the fact that people are investing massive amounts of TIMEpromoting something that has yet to make a reasonable return.Any successful business man will tell you “TIME IS MONEY”. I also believe that if Henry Ford didn’t sell a car after producing 1000’s ,he’d have to rethink the auto biz.
Why won’t you MPM supporter fess up to the fact that by Ginny’s own number’s 70,000 plus spent an average of $5.00 each. Let’s figure that out. What’s the cut? 7% of an average 7% commission?
7% of 35 cents equals next to nothing!
I’m not bitter, angry , upset and surely not disillusioned.
As it Say’s in an other book
The are none so blind as those who will not (REFUSE) to see!
Good Luck…but don’t sit there all righteous spewing the same old tired MPM propaganda you’ve been fed!
There are so many of these outfits misleading people.
All you Mallers need to ask yourselves , “Why are people dropping out of power mall? Why are your own down lines inactive. Are they all bitter, angry, or have they seen through the baloney your glorious leader is promoting? What percent of your sign up’s have done nothing and then ask yourselves why. Don’t come here and say those who disagree ,are jaded! If this is the best argument you can make ,MPM doesn’t stand a chance!Ask Ginny where Dr (Reverend)Maltass has gone ? Is he jaded as well?
my Gosh ,Wake up and smell the Coffee!
quote:
“And lastly for you astute business folks who say that Ginny is not a good manager – how many of you could even think up a good business plan – much less launch a company that has a sophisticated web site and over 80,000 members in only a few months of operation? ”
Please don’t make it sound like this was an original thought by your leader please Bob.
Bigcrumbs.com is basically the same as MPM , and they have been around for 2 years now. We don’t seem to have any if the distention in the ranks as MPM. Thank Goodness !! If you believe in what your doing fine, but I’ve seen the way some of your people operate promoting MPM. I personally have been spammed a dozen times! I sure they are the exception.
We have people at BigCrumbs making money,but we had to work for it. I just read in our forum yesterday, on of our folks just went over the 7000 referral mark.
Whatever you folks out there decide to do…do it wisely ,with eyes wide open and trust the concept,and track record, not the one who is telling you things will be just great!
And just to set it straight…I’m not bitter or angry either. Actually I’m a happy camper! So Bob, just because I don’t believe in MPM , doesn’t mean I have a bad attitude!
Grow up people. Seriously! Get over it. No one is forcing ANY of you to join MPM. The choice is yours and yours alone. As for the people who have already joined, let them come to their own conclusions.
Am I a member of MPM? Yes I am. Does that mean I am biased when it comes to other people’s opinions of the company? No. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just think it is unfair of all of you to judge this company and Ginny without actually taking the time to learn how it works.
I KNEW getting into this company that it wasn’t going to make me rich. I knew that in order to earn money, me AND my downline would have to put in effort as well as do some shopping. All of this is told to you BEFORE you decide to join MPM. You know what you are getting into. You know what to expect and what not to expect. Some will succeed greatly and some will not succeed at all. But that is no different than any other company whether it be on or off the internet. If you want to succeed in life, you have to take chances. The best part about MPM is that you get that chance for FREE! Yes you have to put in time and effort to make it work. But wouldnt you rather put that time and effort into a FREE company, knowing that, if you don’t succeed, you didn’t lose anything?
Ginny has never made any false promises to the MPM team members. She doesnt promise that you will get rich. She doesnt even promise that you will make any money at all. What she does tell you is that the “potential” is there for both. But only if you are willing to work for it. Which in my opinion, is no different then any other business or job you will ever find yourself affiliated with in your lifetime.
Also, who cares if Ginny is making money from us! I would want to earn money from an investment I spent $500,000 and 5 years working on as well. It’s not like she is asking you to give her money out of your pocket. She worked and continuously works hard to make MPM into what it is and what it will become. I would have gladly paid for the opportunity to be part of this company as would many other people. Because we see what is BEHIND it all. We see the good Ginny is doing. And we CHOOSE to support her and help her. Every purchace that is made on MPM, a portion of that is sent to a charity, or a special fund set up. Can YOU say you donate to charity everyday? Or even every week? Or even every month? I can! And all I have to do is shop in my mall. Big deal. EVERYONE shops! If theres a chance that I can help someone in need just by doing something that I have to do anyways, damn right im going to do it.
And for those of you asking for people to prove that they are making money, why do you care? They obviously arent too worried about what they are or aren’t making, so why should you be? Like, I said, no one is forcing any of you to join MPM.
The problem is, all of you are looking for easy, fast ways to make A LOT of money. And just because this company doesnt work that way, you have to belittle it and bring forth every little flaw to all people who may be interested.
NEWS FLASH people! EVERY comapany and business has flaws and downfalls. Especially new ones that are just starting out. It takes time, effort and dedication to run a company. ANY type of company. There is bound to be some speedbumps along the way.
Ginny didnt have to do this. She didnt have to set up MPM. She didnt have to give anyone and everyone a chance to not only make some money, but help out other people at the same time. And she sure as hell didnt need to offer it for free. But she did. And that should tell you something right there.
So before you go bashing her or her company, get your facts straight. If any of you were taking on something this big, and continuously dedicating all your time, resources and money into it, 95% of you would fail. And for the 5% who wouldnt, I’m betting that you definately wouldnt give it away for free!
I’m proud to be a part of My Power Mall. And I’m even more proud to have Ginny as a mentor and a boss. This is my opinion, and the opinion of thousands of other members. Just because it’s not yours, doesnt give you the right to judge!
Grow up, move on and get a life!
WORDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What Natishia said, you go girl!
Yeah, Natishia!
It’s time to let this thread die and move on people!
Wow , looks who needs a chill pill! Some of us actually read the name of this site! “I’ve tried that ” .And though you may not believe it , some of actually do research. I didn’t believe the post regarding the delinquent charity, so I checked it out! Guess what ,it was right ,just as posted . Is that bashing? I’ve also found out you’ll soon be getting paid only when you reach a certain level of commission $15 .And that you’ll be getting it through a debit card. A MPM debit card? Will loading fee’s apply to that card ? Reloading fees? Are these not reasonable questions?
Why do all you MPM folks get so defensive?
Or don’t you think people have a right to know about what they might or might not choose to get into!
My god , I’ve seen people question how much people are making, the validity of the charity assumptions and yes even question your CEO. Don’t people have a right to know the facts?
I don’t know this Ginny Dye person, but I will tell you ,she replied in a very condescending manner.But that’s my opinion. It is OK for me to have an opinion isn’t it ?
I don’t care for vanilla ice cream , does that make me a bad person, because I don’t agree with you !
I’ve seen the topic of time brought up. Is your time not worth something? I’m sure it is ! People question which way the scales tip. Time vs. reward. Is that a slam? If someone disagrees with the rosy forecast being propagated here ,shall we banish them?
MPM folks, something brought you here. Did you have your own doubts? Accept that people won ‘t always bow down and kiss your feet and agree to your queen ,king or CEO. Viva la differance’!(sp)
Tigerlily , no one is forcing you to participate in this discussion. So let fade on it’s own, not when you think it should. Fair enough? and Nathasia….let me paraphrase your own words:
“Grow up people. Seriously! Get over it. No one is forcing ANY of you to join this discussion. The choice is yours and yours alone. As for the people who have already joined, let them come to their own conclusions.”
Why can’t people stop acting like little tin soldiers ,accept different opinions and fight the battle that has no winner!
I hope you’ll all come back real soon with copies of all the hundreds and thousands of dollar your making. When that day comes I’ll be the first to say bravo MPM. But until then , I’ll stick with facts ,track records, and leave Santa, the easter bunny and the boogie to someone elses imagination!
Hey REG ! Word! I like dogs too!
Well time to go to my corner now,hope i didn’t upset all the other kids on the playground!
JOE AND STEVE THIS SITE ROCKS!!!!
Hey Lisette! You are absolutely right in stating that no one forces anyone to participate in this discussion. It just kills me to see that same thing posted over and over again.
So, with that said I’m out of here.
Wish you all well in whatever business you are in!
And to you as well Lily. Blessings
Before I get labeled evil or whatever the word of the day is , let me say ,I don’t give a rat’s behind what anyone says or chooses to do.
Unless the numbers are wrong ,which ,if they are were never corrected or disputed by MPM.
So lets see and tell me where I’m wrong. I’m using figure that were posted here!
70,000 members
who I assume put in an average of 15 mins. per day equals roughly 157,000 hrs per week or 828,000
hours collectively .
If 70,000 people spent $350,000 dollar in Oct.and the commission is an average of 8% that would be $69,000 in total commissions, give or take a few $. lets say $70,000 to make things easier. that means
70,000 people worked 4 weeks for $70,000 ?
or 10hrs each for about a buck a month or 10 cents an hour?
If this rate tripled or you multiply it by 10 ,where does it make sense?
Like I said I don’t care either way, but I do believe this is why they thought us basic math in 3rd grade!
Sorry , I think I’ll pass on that deal.
If I figured this incorrectly ,please show me where. If your going to try to convince me it’s a great deal .please don’t try ,I have a job! As far as free shipping and all those aren’t exclusive offers to MPm or any other affiliate based offering. Most retailors offer coupons to save on line as well so , yes I still save. Who knows, maybe more then you.
What ever way your teeter tatter goes, the numbers don’t crunch!
I meant to say 828,000 collectivly per month.
I probably should be spending my “valuable time” on MPM development rather than bothering to answer the negative comments of Laura B and Lisette – but I am going to respond to certain things they said anyway.
Laura — regarding the “delinquent charity” status; Is that an oxymoron or what?! Since “charity” is by definition a generous action or donation – how does one become “delinquent” in that regard? But even if it is true that Ginny is somehow “delinquent” in a generous action or making a donation – that does not seem to be cause for your judging the merits of her as a person or businesswoman.
And speaking of judging, perhaps you should look to the “other book” as you called it and get a correct quote. There is no Bible verse that says, “There are none so blind as those who will not see.” Though Jesus did say about his parables that there were people who had eyes, yet did not see or comprehend the parables. But more importantly Jesus DID talk about those who judge others –as it seems to me that both you and Lisette are doing of Ginny.
Specifically he said to those who are condemning her and members of MPM who have been put in the position of “defending” what we deem to be a worthwhile business enterprise, “Whatever measure you use in judging others, it will be used to measure how you are judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye, when you can’t see past the log in your own eye.”
And Laura – just WHO are these people you know that “… are investing massive amounts of TIME promoting something that has yet to make a reasonable return.” I challenged that earlier. One gal said she had 125 people under her – and I outlined a “probable” scenario of how much TIME that took – and it wasn’t much. I joined a week or so ago and sent out e-mail links to about 40 people in my “free time” – I guess I could have spent that “free time” reading more of the negative comments and opinions of Ginny and MPM by the likes of you and others. But foolish me – I wasted all of 20 minutes reviewing the materials on MPM and another 20 minutes sending it to friends.
Of those 40 e-mails – six people signed up and one of them has recruited a couple of others. Now that’s not many people – but it also is certainly not much time. And IF (and I realize that is a big IF) my six people, got six (as I did), who got six, etc. – it WOULD NOT take a lot of TIME to do that. And it COULD be a significant “money maker” for me. And tell me – how much TIME would that have taken me?
Of course if people listen to you two – and become convinced that they are wasting their time to get involved and use the system to make purchases and get 5 or 10 people involved – then the whole system would fail. And bravo – you would have succeeded in what you apparently want. That being for MPM NOT to work out – and you to be right!
And when you ask why people are dropping out of Power Mall and the downlines are inactive (according to you) – what is YOUR answer to that? You say they saw though the “baloney” – What “baloney!?” Is it “baloney” to give someone a free web site – all of the marketing materials they need to “recruit” others – over 1,000 legitimate business web sites to shop – and be paid a small rebate for purchases – and be given the “opportunity” to make even more money if others get involved and use the system? That does not sound like “baloney” to me.
And Lisette, — I did not say or even imply that MPM was “an original thought” by Ginny. Solomon said that there is nothing new under the sun — and I did not say Ginny came up with some “new” idea. I asked how many of her critics could think up a good BUSINESS PLAN – much less LAUNCH A COMPANY that has a sophisticated web site and over 80,000 members in only a few months of operation.
I don’t know about Big Crumbs – other than thinking it is a “crummy” name :>) – but I salute its founder as well if they are developing a viable business enterprise. And if they don’t have any dissention in their ranks – wow. THAT is a modern day marvel in and of itself. And your “horror” at having to wait to accrue $15 (actually it is $25) before being paid a commission—big deal! WHY would that “bother” anyone!?
Bottom line – it seems most of the dissention and negativity on MPM is coming from those who are NOT involved – or those who gave a LITTLE effort and expected a LOT. To me what you are doing is like a form of vandalism – i.e. attempting to destroy something even though it is doing you no harm – and can potentially be a benefit to others.
And certainly when there is NO MONEY required with MPM (notwithstanding your “concern” that there may be a financial cost in 2008). The worst thing that can have happened to someone at this point — is that they spent NO MONEY and VERY LITTLE TIME – and made nothing. I challenge you to show me ONE person that spent “MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TIME” and made no money. They would have had to find some incredibly stupid way to do that. i.e. maybe hand carry invitations to people to join and buy them a computer to sign up.
I can’t even think up a scenario in the MPM business model that requires massive amounts of time – and if someone did spend it – I can’t imagine what they were doing unless it was what I am doing right now in wasting time arguing with those who have negative attitudes and probably have never made a meaningful contribution to anything in life.
And on that thought and note – like Tigerlily, I am out of here. Ginny – in her wisdom – recognized that it was futile to try to change the mindsets of people with a “can’t do” attitude. And I should have followed her lead. She is obviously a lot brighter than me – and you. Bye.
hmmmmmmmmm. I guess my math was right! I missed Bob’s swingin sword. lol.This is a joke right? I’m mean these guys are really upset! Glad I didn’t mention anybody’s Momma. Bob don’t take it so seriously my friend. It really is ok !
Peace ya’ll !
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I challenge you to show me ONE person that spent “MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF TIME” and made no money. They would have had to find some incredibly stupid way to do that. i.e. maybe hand carry invitations to people to join and buy them a computer to sign up.
Bob, do politicians qualify as people? wait, they make money huh ? never mind. I guess masive is a relative term!
I’ve been following this forum for the last few weeks and haven’t posted anything to date. I’ll admit while I think MyPowerMall is a great idea,I must in all honesty admit,I myself have had enough.
I’m an everyday reader of the MPM forum. Like most forums ,it has happy members and those not to happy. What disappoints me ,personally ,is that when an issue arise that needs attention,we always get the same reply. “Ginny is working on it ” Now before ,I go further ,I’m sure she is!
She seems like a very sincere individual.
A couple of days ago the issue of being paid through a debit card was brought up. There was some concern immediately . In an update , the following day ,Ginny herself said to look the following day ,for an update regarding the issue.
The next day past, and the next. Still no response to an issue the effects everyone of the over 80,000 people who signed up. This is a big issue to some and not so big to others. But never the less, she said she’d update us!
Today she finally posted a new update. The issue of MPM business, was never brought up. The reason she gives for not updating is sad in many ways.
She is grieving the loss of her loyal pet dog.
Before you all think I’m being cold and callus about this I’m not. I am truly sorry she lost a loved companion. The issue of the debit card is still left unanswered. And that effects all 80,000 .
Ginny if you sever see this I’m truly sorry for your loss, but you’ve got a company to run, people depending on you and a big job to be done!
Now here comes the hard part, effect today, I ,myself will no longer solicit new members.
I’ve seen this same time of thing happening for that last 7 months. I’ve heard it from my own downline and my up line had already informed me she was no longer involved with MPM.
I’d give my id here on this sight but, until I receive the monies owed me (be it through a debit card or not ) I won’t.
There are many still involved like Lily, Bob, Natshia, etc. that will probably see this through until the end. To you I wish you the best. Your far stronger then I. Maybe I’m to critical, but, I can’t see why A company has to literally loss their CEO to the loss of a pet for days at a time.
So spew all your venom on me all you die hard MPM’r.Maybe I deserve it. But I have been disappointed more often then rewarded by the operating practices .
So take your best shot.
Like Ginny says, you can’t please everyone! God knows she’s right there. I just hope she understands just how many she losing as time goes by!
Many Blessings to all.Once again sorry for the loss of you beloved dog Ginny,but to go MIA for 3 days?
After re rereading this ,it may sound cold, and I’m sorry, But this is a discussion about businesses and how the operate is it not?
If you take away the first amendment rights from people ,then that’s even more sad! My opinions ,My thought’s !
So what’s the story MPM folks? Do you guys get paid by a check, paypal,or debit cards? This is confusing as hell to follow. All these changes and it’s an “infant” company? It doesn’t bode well if your trying to recruit a downline. I’m always looking for added income streams,and to paraphrase Wm. Shakespere , “I does think you Mallers doth protest to much! ” Close enough !!!
Help me to understand where I am going wrong here:
1. Traveling to SLC in December. Did a lot of research on several sites including the travel sites on MPM. Found a $99 per night rate at a downtown Marriot, which is where we need to be. Now that it is December, I am going to my MPM site and buying a Marriot gift card on giftcertificates.com. Will get a small rebate, which I don’t mind sharing with people in my upline. Rental car rates were within pennies of each other, so I booked on my MPM site, so I get a small rebate there. Best flight was Southwest, missed out there. Oh well.
2. Bought a 2GB flash drive on CompUSA on my MPM website for $14.98. Chose to pick it up at my neighborhood store – sales tax is less than the $5 shipping.
3. I noticed the Entertainment Book got a pretty good review on this site. I bought mine for the same price everyone else did through my MPM site, again getting a small rebate.
My formula for this kind of stuff is this: Anything > 0 = Good
Where am I going wrong?
Congrats Jeff, Would you say your in the majority or the minority when it comes to savings? I think that’s great. Are you reaping any benefits from your downline where the real money is ,or are they not shopping as much as you ? How much of your commission dollars are you required before your being paid? It seems to be a point of contention here,as well as having to pay to get paid! I’ve researched both MPM and BigCrumbs. While MPM is has more stores,BigCrumbs pays through paypal ,with a $1.00 max. Also I understand MPM is still young while Big Crumbs has been in Business for 2 plus years now!
I’d be interested to know if Steve or Joe decided to pursue MPM as an income stream after they signed up. Also Jeff ,what would you say is a good monthly income? MPM says you can make 4-6 grand a month. No offense but that sounds misleading or very unattainable at least. Your input is appreciated!Are you making 5 grand or more like 500.00 per?
Kimmy: No, we haven’t tried to pursue it. We couldn’t see any reason to shop there, so it wouldn’t make sense to try to build a downline and tell them to shop there. Some people have found good deals at their Malls, but we didn’t.
In all this long thread, no one has stepped forward to say how much they’ve made from their Power Mall. I find that very revealing.
Hi! I ran across the MPM opportunity accidentally and this site by searching for information. No one gave me an MPM invitation. I am intrigued and would like to sign up for a business mall. However, I am selective about my “sponsor”. I would love to find someone local (Dallas area) with the same goals and objectives (facing retirement SOON). It is just my preference to operate this way. I’m really not inclined to sign up under a nameless, faceless person by simply clicking on a link. I have been searching the last few days for someone who fits my description, but I have found that very few MPM sites have names…much less locations or backgrounds. Do you think I have the wrong attitude about this? Can anyone help me find a way to get this type of information about MPM members? Thanks!
Janna, After all thats be written ,Why would you even consider ? Even the operators of this site don’t feel confident enough persue any further action. There have been over 98 responses so far and not one My power mall person would offer a dollar figure on how much they made ,or more likely how much they haven’t made. There are so so many opportunities on the web. The one point I feel uncomfortable with is the charity money.
I went to the FBI web site concerning Internet Fraud. I followed a link they provided and it addresses getting involved with charities. It stated ,if your not familiar with the charity, research it. Well if you research it and it status is delinquent with the State of registry ,shouldn’t they be a big red flag?
How do you know if what they are saying is truth or fiction unless it can be verified by an uninvolved third party? The third party in this case being the state of registry (Washington)
So your offered no proof on income,no proof of charity. The cheaper shopping angle,to me is a ruse. it’s just an enticement for people to shop and spent. You can find those same deals ,through the same stores by finding net coupons for your stores. Not every store provides free shipping. How far is the local mall or Wal-mart from your house? I’d venture to say it’s cheaper to get there at $4.00 per gal.of gas then it would be for shipping . As far as the taxes go,if we don’t pay taxes,who will .Most of us hate the fact that the rich often have loop holes to avoid taxes. Are we pissed that they do that or we can’t? I love how some of these people promote some charity overseas, then think nothing of screwing your fellow citizen by avoiding taxes at each and every opportunity. Yeah help the people overseas, and screw your fellow American. Buy your crap on the INTERNET and bury the last mom and pop stores left.
I don’t think anyone is seeing the big picture beyond the greed! Need more reasons? Ask yourself why you’d sign up under a “Dallas” person but not under a nameless person. Hell, how well do you know Ginny Dye, Lilytiger ,Natashia Bob or any other promoter with out proof your going to make anything? Ask any Mall person if they will GUARANTEE you 4-6 thousand per month if you do what you should. I’ll bet they tell you yes. But like was mentioned in another post above, the numbers have to be so big ,you might as well ask every Chinaman in China to sign up under you. NOT everyone you sign up will spend ,Not everyone you sign up will continue to promote. When this happens your line stops building! Illegal Pyramid are against the law because the folks on the bottom lose money. Why? because eventually the well runs dry. Think about it .If it fails when people invest their own money, how much easier is it to fail when people aren’t trying to get their money back.? People say forget this free deal.”I’m not making anything” .”I quit!”. DIDN”T COST ME NOTHIN!Yeah you have people who will see it until the end, but you don’t have to be Einstein to know it has to end,if not by numbers, by human nature. ! I’m not saying not to do it.
The choice will be yours of course.But I sure as heck would be interested as why you would . Have a great day.
I don’t know if you can use this info on your site. I’m a member of MPM and found this disturbing. If you guys still have a mall you can check it out yourselves in the member forum.Another forum regarding this same subject from other members was closed by MPM admin.
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Has anyone recieved their card? Has anyone been paid otherwise? I have not been following the updates or the threads or all the weird payment changes, because I have been building my downline. 140 direct 300 plus all together, 10 thousand in downline sales since july when I joined and I have recieved one paypal payment for 25 dollars, I expect payment this month, but cannot seem to find out about debit cards or how we that are actually trying to make money monthly in this are going to get paid…
This goes out to all the defenders of My Power Mall. I Challenge you to find “Together We Can Change The World “,on any charity reporting site.
The link below came from an article NBC’s Today They also recommend a 75-80 percent threshold ,leaving 20-25% admin cost. Not 30% that had been reported to Wash.St. by Ginny Dye
http://charitynavigator.org/ or
Click the link..look for yourselves. http://www.guidestar.org/
Read the article http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21965180
Isn’t it odd ,we so called MPM “haters” offer proof , and the supporters offer nothing? I’ve done my part,if you all want to continue , that’s on you! Poof!
I can’t believe this is still going on.
The haters will always be haters and the supporters will always be supporters. One group isnt going to change the minds of the other group, so why continue this childish thread?
For those of you who are against My Power Mall, Ginny, our charities and everything else to do with our company, we get it. You want nothing to do with MPM. We are not forcing you or even asking you to join, so just drop it.
And for those of you defending MPM, it’s pointless. It’s no different then talking to a brick wall. These people already have thier minds made up, there is no convincing them otherwise or changing thier opinion. Just continue to build your MPM business and enjoy yourelf. There is no need to prove yourself, your income or the reason behind you joining MPM to any of these people. There will ALWAYS be haters!
This is a discussion forum Natisha. We’re here discussing the pros and cons of MPM . Care to add proof to those you call haters? I may be converted with your indisputable proof. The only hate I see is from MPM people towards those of a different opinion. If you find it pointless ,then as I see it ,you have choices as well .I’m sure Joe and Steve set up a forum for this reason. Shall we all pack up and go home because you don’t like what you read ?
I got it..let’s just scrap the first amendment, because Natisha doesn’t like it.
I suggest you grow up my dear. I won’t stoop to your level and call names ! Which item have we “haters” offered up as proof is untrue? Are the websites posted here all some great scam to rid the world of WAHO ? Not likely. Proof my dear goes a long way.
I suggest you read the forum provided by your beloved MPM. From what I understand the folks in your group aren’t exactly thrilled about things lately as expressed by Mortimas” ,a contributor to your forum, not this one. or how about the forum closed by your admin when it questioned forms of payment. Shall I go on ? Did it ever occur to you the the best way to get ahead in life is to be wise. Maybe Jack Nicholson was right. “you can’t handle the truth!
Do you think Mortimas is still a supporter or a little more skeptical? maybe a future hater ? lol
GOOD NIGHT ALL AND GOOD LUCK
ROB
I know I’ll probably going to catch stuff for this ,and I’m sorry. Until yesterday I was a Mall member. With the news that the debit cards will now cost us a $12.00 loading fee and $2.50 reloading fee, it has set me back at least 2 months. Big deal? To me it is. This means it will be at least 9 months total(meaning about 2 more) before I even get any money from this. My downline isn’t shopping . While I do as much shopping as possible and get my little rebates here and there, it’s not easy for ME to reach the $25.00 level. I can’t make my team shop. Many have gone as far as block my emails! Now add on the additional $12.00 ,I’ll be here for ever with only those above me getting the biggest chunk!
I love the idea of MPM. I love my MPM friends, But it seems like it’s going to take forever to get paid! MPM is forever telling us to hang in there. MPM is going to explode with this new program. I’ve heard it for months now and I’m so sorry to say , it hasn’t made a difference to me or my bank acct.
My son just now told me ,it will cost us $3.00 to transfer MPM debit card(or any other banks)funds to our acct. So I guess it will cost me 15.00 for my first payment. No I’m not a happy camper.
I guess what I’m saying is, to all you current MPM players, I hope you make tons of money. To those who have quit MPM ,I now understand your coming from a point of disappointment and aggravation. Ginny , Good luck,I know your trying your best, but believe me when I say ,So did I.
MPM just wasn’t for me and the majority of my sign ups I guess!
Hi Lisa, can you prove to my satisfaction you haven’t made anything?
geeez .Who’d a thought after the glowing report on this outfit ,it really didn’t have any power?
I mean what the “H” ,it’s not like this webpage didn’t warn ya or nothin.
Attn, MPM supporters subscribed to this thread: did you see our invitation for a guest post? We’d love to hear from you.
I guess nobody checked out The Better Business Bureau . Read the last line carefully. I hope this helps.
Here’s the link if you don’t trust the validity of this post.
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Name: My Power Mall
Phone: (360) 756-5233
Address: 58 Lake Louise Dr
Bellingham, WA 98229-2781
Website: http://www.mypowermall.com
Original Business Start Date: March 2007
Principal: Ms Ginny Dye, CEO
Customer Contact: Ms Ginny Dye, CEO – (360) 756-5233 or admin@mypowermall.com
Email Address: admin@mypowermall.com
Industry Classification: Work-At-Home Companies
BBB Accreditation:
This organization is not a BBB Accredited business.
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Powerfull Stuff here.
I just came across this site. I’m blown away!
Thanks all! I myself ,am a pessimist and I got to say ,free or not it doesn’t look promising! I think I look for something else a little closer to planet earth !
james
if you find something let us now here for all to see.
rob
tommy boy why not show the whole bbb report did you for get or wish not post they have no complaints against them in ::The BBB processed a total of 0 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.
Reliability Report for
My Power Mall
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Name: My Power Mall
Phone: (360) 756-5233
Address: 58 Lake Louise Dr
Bellingham, WA 98229-2781
Website: http://www.mypowermall.com
Original Business Start Date: March 2007
Principal: Ms Ginny Dye, CEO
Customer Contact: Ms Ginny Dye, CEO – (360) 756-5233 or admin@mypowermall.com
Email Address: admin@mypowermall.com
Industry Classification: Work-At-Home Companies
BBB Accreditation: This organization is not a BBB Accredited business.
Additional DBA Names
Together We Can Change The World Productions
Together We Can Change The World Day
Together We Can Change The World Publishing
Shop For Charity Day
Together We Can Change The World Inc
Marketplace Experience
The BBB processed a total of 0 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.
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Work-At-Home Schemes
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Work-at-home companies often target the most vulnerable, those who can least afford to lose the money. The Better Business Bureau suggests using extreme caution when responding to any such offer. While ads claim high earnings and short hours with little or no experience, BBB files indicate no evidence of anyone making the promised money. Rarely, if ever, are these ads an offer of legitimate employment. Generally, these “jobs” require up-front fees for information or supplies, and only the people who run the ads make any money.
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Sorry I won’t spam on a forum for discussing something else…but I Do appreciate being fore warned with the facts Rob !
i’m trying my power mall ,thats my choice ,if i put in some effert will see what happens so far it has not cost me any money and have 9 sign ups in a few weeks, as for shopping in my mall get commission on what i buy ,i could go derect to the store site (no commission) and pay same price ,some say prices are to high there the same price at my power mall or direct to company web site less rebate. so shop like you normaly do buy at the lowest price and wait for sales.
i now question how much you made so far — haven’t been in a month yet ,so i will let you now when i do –
if you have a better one let us now and how much you made so far
good luck all
rob
see my bbb post was removed didn’t like the fact that bbb has had no complaints against my power mall in 36 month there reporting period.
but left the other bbb post up by tommy that was not complete ,like 1/2 a story or 1/2 truth???
rob
wow, Rob I was all wrong…Your convincing display of facts is undeniable..where do I sign up? I believe now,HALLELUJAH !!!! You pointed out the fact that a company less then 12 months old hasn’t received a complaint in 3 years. just one question if I might. Why is “This organization is not a BBB Accredited business.” I guess I’m stuck on the NOT part. After $500.000 invested,5 years in development and with a team of 60 plus, someone hasn’t looked into it? hmmmmmm Odd don’t ya think , bunky? Good luck, maybe You’ll be the first to present and prove your earnings your earning ? When do you think that might be? Estimate a time please. How much do you think it might be? You’ve been doing this a few weeks now.Care to at least offer a ballpark projection, based on your current sales figures of course !
And Rob,what brought you to” I’ve tried that” ?
I’d be interested to know. I know I was doing research on MPM. And you were………..?
lol This like shoting ducks in a barrel!
Rob,, what’s you addy ,,, I’ve got a friend in Nigeria that would like to meet you !
ta ta ta………..
Ok, MPM haters give it a rest pls. How do u have so much free time to write here and put down MPM over and over???????
If it hasn’t worked for u, their is only 1 truth: You didn’t do your job. Tell me, would you get paid for not doing your job?
Let me TELL U I am getting paid every month for the past 4 months. And I work everyday really hard to build my business for me and my 2 kids.
How Much money have I made???? NONEYA!
How rude to ask a stranger how much they get paid. I wouldn’t ask u.
Have a good one all, I wish i had ur free time.
New guys dont stay here u have ur own mind to make up.
Good luck to everyone what ever you do.
Peace
Once again,no proof ! We can now add “rude” to the names we’ve been called. Why such anger ? I can understand the passion, but the anger is a discredit . Even Ginny used the little smiley faces! Trust me Reg, if you showed one bit of evidence,of any kind of earning,people might give you a break. But to NOT OFFER anything as proof isn’t really an incentive for people to trust a complete stranger. I think the point is agreeable that it’s not a get rich scheme,but you need to show something for your efforts don’t you ? Maybe I’m wrong! When I work my 40 hours a week ,I get paid. When I deposit money into my savings acct. it draws interest and I get paid. But your asking people to believe your making a living doing this to support yourself and 2 kids?
Reg ,there are many sites like this, that have gone and done the research ,there are people sharing their experiences here! If your not able to see they’re trying to help you and others, then maybe it’s you who are skeptical.This site has reviewed a list of other ops. Do you think they have a grudge against Ginny Dye? Or you ?
If your not willing to reach out and realize somebody doesn’t want you to walk around with your head in a cloud,then maybe you’ll get exactly what you deserve! I’m sorry if you all think I and some other posters are anti MPM, or anti Ginny dye , or anti anything, but if you can’t accept the facts presented then you’ll need more then a home business to get things right.
I’m sure your an honorable man. I consider myself to be one as well . What kind of people would we be if we just sat back and let you get your hopes built up? Let me ask you this reg. Would you let your kids play with fire , or would you warn them ,that fire , while it has many uses, can be a dangerous thing? Please think about it . Consider this my holiday gift to you!
Be well and please don’t think I and the others are necessarily Anti anything except as a previous poster said “little tin soldiers” being misused!
I’ve have be reminded by a Loved one that the burdens of the world , and making sure everyone gets a square shake is not my cross to bear. So for that reason , All I can say is I wish you all well. Remember we’re in the middle of the holiday season and the phrase “Peace on earth ,Good will to man” should stand as a guide no matter what path any of us takes. I’ve promised to let this go and I will . THANK YOU ALL! It’s been real! But I promised to let you all figure it out! Bye!
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This said it all for me. It was an honest opinion on a unknown company. The CEO did a very unconvincing job of restoring credibility. I re-read the question asked by Andrea on Sept 15 to Ginny regarding how much money had been raised by the charity. In Ginny’s rebuttal , did she fail to answer the question ,or was it avoided? It seems she won’t reply,and that’s understandable. I mean why throw more gasoline on the fire ,right?
I don’t like this kind of opportunity (affiliate promoting)anyway, so it’s no big deal to me. I’ve been in business many years now, and in all those years the only time I didn’t want someone knowing my figures was when things weren’t going my way, and I was losing. You can bet if they were, in reality making any kind of substantial return on their efforts ,they would gladly shout it from the roof tops. If you can’t read the man read the facts! Most succesful ventures in this country,have open books to help with their stocks and such. Same would apply here if the number bear out!
Hello Steve & Joe and my many fellow MPM members,
As an MPM member I have to say that I am truly sorry, knowing that I’m going to hurt many people, Aside from the fact that many of you are and will attack me for this.
When I found MPM and watched the movie I believed it was a legitimate corp.
After two months with a few set backs and seeing many of you feel it’s a scam.
I can’t help but feel the same way.
I sent A letter to corp about tracking IP addresses “get them to the web site and we’ll do the rest” as I was getting many hits on my web sites as well as on MPM but no sign ups. The reply I got was “my hits are above average and keep up the good work and would I be kind enough to share my advertising methods.” No solution to the problem, as I was reading MPM members forum, another member was upset that 3 people, 2 family and 1 friend signed up under her mall, but where not showing up in her down line, no one has replied to her yet. Then I found a statement “it will take them 2 or 3 times of viewing that mall before they sign up” I have seen many people that I showed MPM to and are now members that did not show up under me.
Many complained that they wanted it cookied, so they would not lose all there hard work. Yes I agree! But why would MPM fix this? To MPM, Weather they sign up under you or me MPM will still get them. So with all the hard work and advertising methods we use, who is benefiting?
I sent another letter concerning “BEFORE YOU SHOP” on the front page of MPM as I felt it was
untasteful and not only to me, when I go on to shop, it brings my shopping spirit down, but I also used my shopping mall to show family & friend what MPM has to offer them in the mall, and I didn’t need to explain the “BEFORE YOU SHOP” methods until after they signed up. I requested it be removed. It should have been sent to all MPM members via e-mail and this is the reply I got.
We are rewriting the “Before You Shop” statement, but I’m afraid it will be staying up at least until after the holidays. Too many people do not read their emails, but they cannot help but read the statement on their mall.” I thought this was a pretty lame reply coming from corp,(just my opinion) besides the fact it came from an yahoo address. I guess this is not your very own FREE web site after all? I have 3 web sites and the only one that is able to change,post,without notice is me.
And as for nobody likes reading there e-mails…an average of, 4 e-mails a day ” shop, shop, shop,” let’s not forget about that pop up on our screen that we cannot control, you start to feel like you’re in a new car lot with 3 car salesmen trying to pull money out of your pocket so yes I would turn you off too!
6.9% going to charity… I am all for that, I always believed that it to be the kind hearted thing to do when one becomes successful,”together we will change the world”?? together we need to change US, MPM, before we do anything. Ginny is trying to make us a lot of money and giving us something believed to be simple, to all of us. But $4000-$6000 a month I find that very misleading, as a member for 2 months, I know that’s not long, I reached out to 10’s of thousands of people, 8 hours a day for 2 months with a lot of set backs, are we forgetting how MPM got where it is today? it’s us 80,000 members. We have given them the opportunity for….
“Shop For Charity Day, Inc. is the premier
Fundraising E-Mall on the Internet.
One of our primary goals is to be different from every other Mall out there. While there are some great Malls, our commitment is to excellence in every area. Our goal is to raise $100 MILLION for organizations in the next 12 months. We can only achieve that by doing everything a “little bit better”.”
all I’m seeing is $1.69 and I had to spend 100.00 to get that. Forget the members I have on my down line and the ones under them. all so 6.9% corp profit can go to charity and let’s not forget about the “little percentage left over for MPM”? At this point MPM does not look like a business, it looks more like a charity event. Something is very wrong here!
I read somewhere here that a member would come back if MPM brought in a corp level team.
“(If the company hired professionals to manage the company, I’d go back).” I have to agree.
Ginny is one person that make mistakes, has setbacks, and will learn from them.
But to build a business as powerful as Ginny wants, we need professionals, ones that will handle it, and treat it as Ginny would. ones that will treat it as if it were there own. 60 + that are running it, I am sure many of you are wonderful people and are working very hard and I mean no harm to any of you. But something is missing, and maybe from all of this it will pull the team together to be stronger. the company is still new and will have many more setbacks, what I’m seeing is everyone is too busy trying to make new changes to better MPM with out taking care of the issues that we face on a daily basis. This is just my opinion.
So what brought me here today, I got an e-mail from one of my members stating I told them MPM was “ABSOLUTELY FREE” and why should they have to pay to get paid!? so not only do I feel MPM is misleading we now are Lying and again without even bringing it to our attention the changes were made Before preparing us for it. So I am going to sit on the sidelines as well and pray that MPM becomes what it was believed to be when it started!
Yes I too was hurt, as well as my family and friends, and I also pray that instead of corp finding time to come here and participate in the problem, they should all come together to
fix the problems MPM has. we cannot change people but we can change My Power Mall.
Tngal,
I couldn’t agree more. I know many MPM people will tell you that 2 months wasn’t enough time for you to give it a go. I’ve WAS in MPM since June. Believe me,it doesn’t get better! Between the endless prodding to make you shop, and Brad the cheerleader monitoring every word on the “MEMBERS” forum, it’s sickening! If someone posts something Brad or Owen don’t like , they shut down the topic. I even remember one poster ,having all their posts removed ,because they questioned the glitches. My personal opinion was it wasn’t a glitch ,but another way to delay paying anyone. I don’t have proof so I’ll let that one go. How many time have you seen people who write to Admin and never get a response?
The most viewed topics on the forum are in regards to being paid, missing sales, and like you said missing sign ups. I don’t know how many you had frontline ,but awhile ago ,like in Nov. ,Ginny sent out a letter in secret to the 10 plus people saying she was thinking about dropping people who didn’t spend money EACH AND EVERY month. Your right it ain’t free! MPM is suppose to be making some big changes this month.with out knowing what it is , I’m sure a lot of people will be unhappy. Isn’t the timing odd? I mean right before Xmas. Ginny Dye doesn’t have a track record. I predict bad things for MPM, I just hope the active members don’t get hurt to badly. I know for a FACT that people are sitting back until they get a payment ,then they’re gone! I am. And so is my up line, so I know I’m not doing anything that they aren’t doing either. In the end she’ll be left with the same handful of people who think they know everything in the members forum .
Hi,
I signed up for power mall to see for myself. I only did it the other day and trust me I ain’t stayin . Between the constant emails you get from
from the company, my sponsor must not have anything to do cuz she sends me crap like twice a day. I checked out a bunch of stuff and found something nobody mentioned,so I’m passing it on. I seen Ginny Dye’s name on the 10+ club for having more then 10 members (which is bs) My question is why ain’t her name or any of the administrations name on the POWER SPENDERS LIST?
Hell theres suppose to be 86,000 members and only like 30 speding over $150. They shove the buy part ,but I don’t see them on any damn list for backin it up.
I think I’ll head for south Philly and see how many shoppin carts pushers and crack heads would like me to sign then up. Hell they could use
4-6 k per ! Ain’t charity great? Maybe a crack dealer with natural born sellin skills too!
One last thing, since I signed up , I been getting alot of spam email from some really strange folks. So from what I seen , it’s a thumbs down. Sorry MPM folks , looks like your gonna have to get money for your new trailer from sumbody else .
lol, I’m j/k I’m sure your not ALL livin in a trailer park. So.Philly here I come!
This is in reply to Janna,
I have a member on my front line that is from TEXAS and so is Robin in my upline. Robin has been with MPM since April and she has a great organization that she is building. I myself have over 900 members and I have a great support system set up for my team. If you would like to join me and sign up under my Texas member you would get support from both of us as well as my upline from Texas.
I am very impressed with this company. I am excited about the direction that it is heading. I have earned some money and it’s getting better every month. I know it’s not a get rich quick business but I think it’s a business that will be around for a long time and I love the fact that I can help non profit organizations in my area.
I think that the reason Ginny has received so much heat is due to her honesty. I really don’t know too many CEO’s that have been as open as Ginny has about the developments in MPM. I think it is great to be a part of the changes that have been made.
To clarify for those of you that are interested ~ MPM members will be getting paid on Debit Cards. This was the best solution for the members including those from other countries. All decisions must be based on not only the best interest of US citizens but those from other countries. I would much rather be paid via Debit Card than by check. This is part of the cost of doing businesses and the cost of $2.50 per payment to us is very small when you have the potential to make $1000’s. Have I made that much? No, it would be virtually impossible since this business is based on rebates and the rebates are coming directly from the individual stores. It takes anywhere from 1-3 months for the stores to pay MPM the rebates and 3 months ago I only had a few members. The reason that it’s a GOOD idea for MPM to pay a smaller percentage when we purchase things ourselves is because it allows for a larger percentage on our 3rd and 4th level. I get paid 25% and 35% on my 3rd and 4th levels. I have made around $5 on single purchases on my 3rd and 4th levels. So when I have built those levels up to 100’s or 1000’s of people shopping I will have a nice commission check coming in monthly. At this point my team is growing with very little effort on my part.
There’s much more good news about MPM but I really came on to let Janna know about my team and that I would be happy to help her build her business whether she wanted to join me or not.
I know that people will be skeptical. I for one am very satisfied with MPM. I plan on sticking around and being a part of the success of this company. If anyone would love to join me ~ I welcome you to join and see what this is. There is absolutely no risk involved.
Hey Joe ~ this is a great platform for individuals to speak their minds. I must say I love this country!
Ginny ~ if you get a chance to read this, however I can imagine you probably don’t have the time ~ I commend you for the amazing job you have been doing. I enjoy hearing your updates and look forward to the next one! There really is no way to please everyone. You will have those complain that they hear too much from you and those that complain when they don’t hear form you for 3 days. So I for one will just take each day that God gives me at a time and look forward to the next one!
Janna you can reach me at
tinalovespowermall@gmail.com
Tina
I saw the term “FRONTLOADING” mentioned earlier.
Can someone tell me what it means? Does it have anything to do with the issue that Tngal brought up?
Thanks
Hi Tina , I’ve seen your post on the MPM forums.
Did you forget to tell the folks reading THIS forum how much the initial debit card fee will be ? I’m sure it was an over sight on your part. But is it not a fact that it’s only $2.50 per month ,AFTER you’ve paid the initial $12.00 fee .
I just want to make sure I have the facts clear. I sure wouldn’t want these people thinking ALL the details were presented!
Also, you’ve stated ,
“So when I have built those levels up to 100’s or 1000’s of people shopping I will have a nice commission check coming in monthly. At this point my team is growing with very little effort on my part. ”
Are you getting a debit card to use ,or a check?
I don’t know about you, but my bank doesn’t charge me to deposit a check, but it does charge a $3.00 fee to make a transfer of funds from a debit card that isn’t issued by the same bank.
So, unless I’m wrong , It will cost me $5.50 per month , after the initial $12.00 fee.
lets see
$2.50-MPM debit reload fee
+$3.00-bank transfer fee
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$5.50. each and every month
So in essence , and correct me if I’m wrong,
I’d be starting at a negative $5.50 per month?
Another point ,if you’ll allow it.
I’ver seen elsewhere (other forums) , concern about the “Power Spenders Club” This is a club (bizarre term) where anyone who Spends Over $150.00 in their mall (another bizarre term, more appropriate ,Ginny’s mall)Anyway, if you spend more then $150.00 per month you have your name posted. true? Of course it is ,I looked before I typed. Why doesn’t Ginny’s name ever show up on the list of power spenders? Her name is posted as having more then 10 members to her team!
There is a list for Power Spenders, a list for A 10 plus Member Club, But not one single list showing how much anyone makes? Wow! , before you start with the privacy issue, why is it OK for the world to know how much you spend and not how much you earn? Heck, there are tons of home businesses on the net ,with testimonials of actual figures regarding earnings. I think we all know what the real reason is ,Don’t we ? If the members en masse’, were to realize how little everyone was making on average, it really wouldn’t be much of an incentive, now would it?
Ex.- Big Earner of the Month Nov. 07
Joblo id#29948au- $38.00
I know your well versed in the company line Tina ,
Because I believe you maybe the same TINA who likes to post as often as possible on the forum, in very large font,which is so hard on the eyes btw.
Please don’t take this as a personal attack. It’s only my opinion,and worth about as much as “MY’ power mall. Tina, IF, your same poster here as on MPM, you remind me of the annoying little brown nose of a little girl who said behind me in the third grade.
You seemingly (yes Seemingly) post like your trying to impress the admin monitors (whom we affectionately refer to as ‘Big Brother” in our house! )
ONCE AGAIN ,these are my observations, the facts as I see them ! I haven’t called anyone a name, as a matter of fact .I think Tina did an outstanding job of presenting an opposing point of view!
Tina , I wish you the greatest rewards possible.
I will admit along with a unproductive MPM ,I’m also involved with a few other projects that are actually making some money. I’m not defending them as they haven’t proved worhty yet .lol For alot less cost to be paid. I hope your international members realize the sacrifice your making for them!
I only wish you were on my team , in what I’m doing now!
Be well Tina, Your to be applauded.
Joe And Steve, Thank you once again for the avenue to express MY opinions.
As Tom wrote earlier, It isn’t his cross to bear ,.nor mine! I’ve tried to let people see the facts, before them, and in some cases ,the Lack of facts. So………………
I ‘m going to say my good byes as well.
MPM ? Where IS the power? I still don’t see it!
Happy Holidays to ALL !
God Bless our troops around the world and bring them all home safely!
Andrea!
Andrea,
YES! I’m the same person that posts on the forums! Feel free to say Hi! I in no way am trying to impress the administrators. What benefit would I get from doing that? I just happen to be one that enjoys helping people that need it. I have actually ‘adopted’ 2 members from the forum that didn’t have a sponsor helping them. I am not gaining anything by doing this I just like to help. I didn’t know that there was a problem with being helpful. I like to type in large fonts so that it makes it easier to read. I don’t type in all capitals so I’m not yelling online or doing anything harmful.
I didn’t mention the initial $12 fee only because it had already been mentioned. But I have no problem with it. I have been a business owner for years and I am used to paying fees that I call the cost of doing business. But I would rather pay the $12 than to have a monthly fee that many many online businesses require just to benefit from all they have to offer. MPM does not require such a thing. Plus I’m getting a Debit Card so it’s not like we’re not getting anything for our money. I can keep using it over and over.
My payment was made via paypal last month and this month it will be made with the debit card and I’m anxious to get it actually! I think that banking fees vary from bank to bank. Initially I will be using my card so I don’t really need to tranfer money to my banking account. It’s a MasterCard so there are plenty of places that I can use Mastercard. I can buy gas or food with it. So transfering the money shouldn’t be an issue for ME until I am making substantially more than a couple thousand dollars and then at that point I will not be concerned with the small fee attached to transfering the money to my bank if there is one. I know that I will be making substantially more down the road. That is why I am doing this business.
I’m sorry you don’t agree with what I have to say. I’m really not that little brown nose girl that you are referring to. Im just involved in a business that I am excited about. I don’t apologize for making comments on the forums that I feel could help someone.
I have been involved in other Network Marketing Companies in the past and hands down this is the most exciting one I have ever been a part of. But really it’s for ME. It might not be for you or even any of you reading this. But the fact that it makes sense to me and that I enjoy doing it and that I AM making money at it should be reason enough for me to come on here and stand up for what I believe in.
And I have gained more than just a dollar amount by being involved in MPM. Just for shopping in my mall I have a 7 night accomodations for a condo that I can use anytime in the next year at over 600 locations. I have met some amazing people! I have saved a lot of money by looking for great deals in my mall. So really you can’t just put a dollar amount on what you are making.
So sure everyone can make up their own minds when deciding whether or not to join My Power Mall. I personally think it’s a no brainer.
Tina
Tina you said
I have actually ‘adopted’ 2 members from the forum that didn’t have a sponsor helping them.
Question please. Why won’t their sponsor help or did they quit powder mall? I only ask this because the attrition rate was mentioned previously . Also, Ginny Dey said she paid hundreds out in checks, you said last month was paypal. Now you say next month is debit card. The company is new,and has paid three different ways? That’s a little scary .
Also you said
until I am making substantially more than a couple thousand dollars and then ……
What number of sales ,downline and commission rates are needed to get all that money?
I’m asking because I’ve never seen this happen with any other Home Internet Business.
I’ll wait for your reply. If Tina doesn’t reply will another powder person offer some numbers up, and let me know how long you’ve done it and how much your earning today, pre Christmas sales .
Thank you ,
Rahib
also, Can you have an option to be paid? We don’t use plastic here.
Thank you again
I found the answer, no need to reply.
I found a powder mall calculator.
I would need 11,111 people signed up below me and they have to spend $50.00 each , for every month, to make $2721.88 a month. (10 people, spending $50.00,8% rebate)
If you have 86,000 members now ,and they each have to do the same ,oh no no no .that’s too many people . I want you to make many dollars , no Thank you , Somebody on the top of the mountain is making fancy dollars. you only need about 10,000 more people Tina. You have 900 now
I didn’t ask them why they weren’t getting help from their sponsors. It didn’t matter to me. In every Network Marketing company you will have those that quit. So I am not sure why you think MPM is any different.
What part of getting paid is scary? I told you that I have received money from MPM. And the fact that Ginny started her company out by paying with checks and now has moved to Debit Cards. I really don’t see the problem there.
I would prefer the Debit Cards over any other form of payment. Where are you that your country doesn’t accept Master Cards, may I ask?
If my team was spending an average of $50 per month I would be making over $600 per month as it stands right now. If they were to spend $100 average I would be making over $1200. No they are not doing that much right now but my numbers are growing. And I plan on adding many more. And I also believe that with the Local Merchants Program that is soon to be released that this will make it easier for my team to shop. Many don’t have money to buy things from their malls but they need to buy food and gas. So when the local merchants program is released, they will be able to do that as well.
Sure there will always be people in every program that join and do not work it. But you just need to keep looking for those that do want to work it. There are plenty of them out there as well.
It’s really a good company! I think you all should just check it out and see for yourself!
Tina
Yeah do what Tina says ! Don’t listen to the people who tried it and didn’t like it,and told you why. Don’t wait till some one shows us proof. And above all don’t listen to the people who did the review and asked where the power is.just listen to Tina! This is ridicules ! We get it Tina ,ya love something that hasn’t got enough to satisfy most people here! you made your point . Good luck geeezz
Borrrrrrrrrrinnggg. If rahib’s numbers are right,and Ron’s numbers are right and Steve was right, who should we listen to? Nobody questioned those figures,and figures as well as proof work for me! Beat yourself up.You guys just made my decision easy. If you earned the 12 bucks and they take it away ,thats not right. Why the hell doesn’t your bank charge you 12 bucks to get a debit card ? I’ve had 6 different accts.and not one bank charged me anything for a debit card.
But we’re all wrong,?
The banks get you with other fees. And Rahib was talking about Powder Mall not Power Mall.
In conclusion, you do not need hundreds of thousands of people in this to earn substantial money. You do need members to shop and MPM is making this even more possible with the soon to be released Local Merchants Program. If you all want to wait for that to materialize before joining then that would be your decision. I personally am going to work this program now with the knowledge of that program soon to be released. And I am sure there will be a bit of a fallout for those that have become bitter about the 12 dollar fee. But the key to success is ’sticking with it’. I’m sure that both Joe and Steve will admit to that. You can never be successful at anything if you quit.
Ok everyone. I can see those that are posting against MPM have made up their minds so I will spend my time elsewhere! I enjoyed the back and forth banter but I really do have more important things to attend to. I wish you all the best in your businesses of choice.
Sorry Kathy that my post wasn’t entertaining enough for you. But I just was giving my opposing opinion and there are many that agree with it….not many over here but that’s alright!
Take Care Everyone!
Tina
I’m sure that both Joe and Steve will admit to that. You can never be successful at anything if you quit.
I thought they agreed it wasn’t worth the effort, hence “where’s the Power?” Or as Rahib calls it “powder” mall. That was priceless! Thanks for pointing it out Tina!
I have have a question. When all these supporters make all the thousands of dollars ,will they still come back to post to all of the haters, non believeing idiots? Or will they simply disappear ,doing their best CEO impersonation?
Just an observation! Maybe I’ll sign up just to pick up some loose coin.
yeah right!!! Santa is coming to town.
I appreciate you writing this review. It’s damn hard to find an honest evaluation of My Power Mall that isn’t designed merely to advertise one’s own store and spam google results with useless noise.
I discovered MPM advertised on a local community notice board, and while intrigued, I was also suspicious – the URL was an obvious referer.
It does seem that MPM is legit, but I think I’ll pass.
Thanks again for your honest and thorough review.
Stop writing on this forum – ALL sides. get a grip, get a life, move on, get other jobs, eat food, shop in stores or online, read a hardcopy book, play with an animal, talk to your family, have a real debate with a human you actually know, take a class on how to debate, take a class on how to paint, take a vacation, start a new thread that doesn’t require you all to repeat the same info over and over.
This “debate” was over long ago, so don’t even try that constitutional crap. IF you are really into to constitutional rights why don’t you do something much more productive with your life than post numerous posts that say the same thing, over nad over?
I will never visit this site again and hope none of you do either for your personal well-being.
Or maybe you like being miserable (all sides), in that case please carry on until your pathetic existences cease. It is probably better that you are all off the street. (and yes I am angry but not at any corp as much as the really dumb individuals making stupid choices.
See Ya
Adi
You know what cracks me up? People who write comments on forums to tell other people to stop writing comments on forums. It’s like monkeys–when they get really pissed at something other monkeys are doing, they throw poop at the offenders. Maybe that would have better results.
Perhaps we should merge the colon-cleansing thread with this my power mall thread? We’d see more productive results.
Well said Adi,(NOT)
Your truly a perfect, shining example of the typical MPM supporter we’ve all seen here ,in the past. Your an exemplary role model for MPM members world wide. You’ve pounded home the message many of us have long thought . You logic is proof enough that MPM will get exactly what it deserves .
As far as merging this with the colon site…why not? lol I’ve seen more people talking out their proverbial arses then I thought possible on the subject.
I’m serious when I ask this…..What is wrong with showing proof?
These MPM have stooped to name calling, but haven’t offered one iota of proof to discredit ANY of the opposing views.
So Addi,
This Debate of facts (not emotions) will be over when the very last person has said their piece.
It’s bad enough when MPM censors it’s own forum, mind your own business and allow this one to speak for those with something WORTH saying!
I glad I’m not the only one who thinks that the MPM forum is overly self serving. It’s seems to me that every time a controversial question arises, some admin official with a finger on his mouse jumps in.
I’m so sick of one person who I think should just go all the way and put on a cheer leading outfit. Give us a “B” ,give us a “G” …. He’s so obvious. Also their are always the same people responding,. It seems like a handful of posters are full of themselves and find it important that the membership know who they are.
Add another point. We were told the Debit cards were going out the first few days of Dec.
Maybe some of these know it alls can tell me where my debit card is ? This is the middle of the month .
Point 3
When (or if ) I get my money, and quit, will the membership total go down? I doubt it. The term padding the books comes to mind!
Pissed off? you bet! Have a grudge? damn right I do. Will you shut me up about all the BS MPM puts people through ? No way!
So If you don’t like it Adi, you move on !
FEEsFEES FEES everyweek it’s a new fee ! LAst night Ginny told us we all should buy Gift cards and get a higher percentage back.
What she didn’t tell us was there is a 10% fee to get those gift cards!
I don’t think she does her homework! Mayeb the air is to thin where she thinks these things up.
All I know is enough is enough. I ‘ve had enough of her pushing MORe shopping down our throats!
Thanks to my fellow MPM members on the MPM forum for pointing this fee thing up and thanks for whoever posted this site there today
Bye Ginny , I quit!
You can’t get blood from a stone !
Signed bleed dry!
Reading the review, absorbing all the information in this lively debate ,has now brought me to the conclusion that I may just be spinning my wheels.
I must sadly admit , while I too believe her intent is noble, Ms Dye just can’t ,as they say
‘deliver the groceries” . I’ve witnessed heartfelt passion on both sides of this issue,but the fact remains, nothing was provided to show even those of us who are still members, what we have to look forward to.
So,while I know the choice is mine, I too shall no longer promote anything I can no longer believe in. I hope I, and my family are not on someone here’s downline. For all intent and purpose, we are now “inactive”
Thanks for the chance to express our displeasures.
George (NY)
I’ll admit I came here because it was posted on the MPM forum that you guys were Bashing MPM and only trying to sell a book.
I’ve always considered myself an independent thinker ,and will continue to be. To my fellow MPM brothers and sisters. Just because someone doesn’t believe as you do, dress as you do, and share the same opinions ,doesn’t make them evil!
The same applies to those not of the MPM faith.
I’ve seen many valid points on both sides of the issue. Some good and some bad.
I myself am EXTREMELY disappointed in the direct of MPM. While the direction may be admirable ,the route taken to get to that final point is laden with obstacles . By obstacles ,I’m referring to to the new fees. With commissions coming in .17-.90 at a time and fees like the debit card coming at $12.50 and $2.50 at a time,is it no wonder why there is discouragement?
I too read Ginny’s update promoting gift cards!
I too have read the disappointment about the 10% fees attached to those cards as well.
Listen, this IS a business that will only survive if the masses shop. If you don’t want to shop and collect your 40 cents here and there, your not forced to. While I agree she pushes shopping, i believe it’s because holiday shopping appears low this season and I myself fear online shopping will drop even further after the holidays are past.
Money is tight. Evidence of this can be found in most places by the mere fact more and more discount stores (ie; dollar stores )are popping up.
For the record , I won’t resign My Power Mall.
But in all honesty, I’m not promoting it anymore and have no funds left to do any further shopping on line. I’ll do as I’ve done for years, clip my coupons, read the Sunday ads and enjoy my visit with the local merchants! The INTERNET shopping thing has sucked all the excitement out of the holidays for me so it’s no big deal .
I realize these are the words of an old women with nothing better to do, but even we have opinions.
Bye for now Power Mall..if you want to cut me loose for non participation , do what you must.
The majority of my downline has abandoned me ,so as they say No Biggie!
Peace and love this holiday season
Willa S.
There are only 8 stores out of the over 200 stores that certificates.com has that has this added fee of 10%. This is the stores that are adding the fees NOT MPM. And as she pointed out today after these issues were brought up ~ you can buy a super certificate emailed to you and then with that get your other certificates and the fees are very small compared to the money that you save. I think that if anyone is going to jump ship over some fees that Walmart or Target has added on to a gift certificate that nobody is requiring you to buy then maybe you weren’t serious about the business to begin with. I’m quite excited about this new announcement. There are stores that I will be shopping at anyway (like EXPRESS) and I will be buying my super certificate and then using that to get all others. I can get as many gift certificates as I want for the same shipping price of under $2. So I really don’t know what the ruckuss is all about.
I will be SAVING money this Christmas thanks to Ginny’s announcement. I was going to shop in many of those stores anyway and now I can do it and get money back. And some I can turn around and get a second rebate by using the gift certificate in my own online mall. It’s actually pretty great!
I don’t think that many can see the big picture. And I can. So I will continue to build and I wish for those that are too serious about building their MPM business they don’t get side suckered by those that decide to quit.
It’s really not for everyone but it is for me and many others.
Willa said, “I’ll admit I came here because it was posted on the MPM forum that you guys were Bashing MPM and only trying to sell a book.”
What?! You mean MPM people are coming here just to see our “bashing?” I’m so embarrassed! Had I known you were coming, I would have, you know, put some clothes on. I haven’t done such mild bashing in, like, forever. Steve and I have barely even contributed to this thread, and the original review is as mild as a breastfeeding baby’s breath!
Oh, and the post went up long before the ebook was even a twinkle in Steve’s eye. Do you see any links to the book in the post? Any pitching of the book in our comments?
Look, guys: If you think this is our best bashing, please give us another chance. Our best bashing draws blood, and our opponents don’t get up for a counterpunch! If you think we’re trying to promote a book, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. We can promote the ebook until all the hairs in your nose stand at attention from irritation.
Steve? Did you bring all this MPM nonsense here so you could sell our fantastic book about telecommuting at $1 a pop?? You need a new business plan, moron!
Gentlemen, I merely posted my reason for being here. “I come neither to praise ceasar nor bury him.” If being curious is offense then excuse me. Had you read my entire post ,I sided with no one but myself.
If and when MPM colapses in on itself , it will undoubtably because of the loud mouths and know it alls . I just sit here and laugh at the big mouths like Tina. yes Tina you!”
I actually enjoy a good tussle,even at an advanced age. If your willing to go toe to toe with a senior my dear , let the games begin.!
I know I’m old and forgetful , but I have the excuse of age. May I ask your excuse my dear?
“Ok everyone. I can see those that are posting against MPM have made up their minds so I will spend my time elsewhere! I enjoyed the back and forth banter but I really do have more important things to attend to. I wish you all the best in your businesses of choice. ”
Sound familiar Tina ?
your words
Your only making things worse ,please don’t embarass MPM any farther!
I know this here is an open debate, but dang Tina get your panties unbunched, unclinch them cheeks and relax darlin. I ain’t into Power mall,and I ain’t against it none neither. But Girl, your soundin like an outta control brat who’s upset cause the other kids won’t play with her. I red all the posts ,let it go sugar. You cant be tellin folks how to think and make em believe you got all the answers. lots of folks here don’t like power mall. you do, we get it. If ya don’t let it go you’ll explode. You ain’t winnin no points for your group. trust me! you look silly as hell. I’d say most folks could care less about Power mall.
Cam
P.S. Willa Darlin, you go momma. Keep that spirit !!!!
must be from Tenn. right !
Willa, I did read your entire post. There was nothing offensive about it and I’m glad you’re curious. My comment was not directed at you but at other MPM forum members who might come here looking for a good bashing.
Just a question.How old are you all?
Enough said…
First off ,Thank you Cam and try N.J. hun not
Tn.
Thank you for accepting my curiosity Joe with out labeling me .
InFinity, Why do you ask about age? I doubt you’ll find anyone here your age. I believe the cut off here is 12…see you next year ?
Life is to short Infinity,,say what you mean ,mean what you say, and never turn your head from the truth.
Enough said That little statement said ,it hit the nail on the head. ,You could not find anything to your liking so you try to provoke?
Your words fall short of the mark here my boy.I have seen the your kind over the years . I find them to be generally weak and in the long run disappointing.
Bless your little hearts, now can we continue with the discussion ?
Those that don’t care to play nice ,may be excused.
Hi,
I have a question for anyone who may know.
If, I were to enlist in the My Power Mall program and had spent $1000.00 through the Online mall, Roughly , how much would I have earned ? I played with the calculator yesterday ,and was confused to the percentage. Please give me a bottom line.
I tried to go back today but your site is down.
Could I have earned 8% of $1000.00? That comes out to $80.00 . But the chart doesn’t show this.
Thanks
For your information…you people who think you are so cool for posting about the BBB…it’s pretty amussing…someone even wrote that it was “powerful” that someone had listed something they got off a web-site…
NO COMPANY CAN BECOME A MEMBER OF THE BBB UNTIL AFTER ONE YEAR AND THEY MUST BE INVITED BY THE BBB…
Did anyone think to CALL the BBB?
No..of course not. People just go around spewing information as if they are so smart and making assumptions based on their own NEGATIVE deductions.
MPM could not be a “member” of the BBB even if they wanted to since MPM was only started in MARCH…
You people who have nothing better to do than to sit around and piss on other people’s efforts and to be quite rude and quite frank…you are really pathetic. Don’t you have anything better to do?
And if anyone has not succeeded in this business, it is nobody’s fault but THEIR OWN.
Gosh, how painful THAT reality is..that people have to go around fault finding and blaming on external circumstances.
GET REAL FOLKS….IF YOU FAILED…IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT.
Scott,
If you had had a personal mall you would receive 90% of the commission which varies from store to store. Each store sets what their commission is. If you had a business mall you would receive 7% of the commission amount on level one which is your mall and 14% on level 2 29% on level 3 and 35% on level 4 and 3% on the other levels down to 9.
So, it’s hard to say exactly how much you would get if you spent 1000 bucks since It depends on many factors.
Did this answer your question?
7% of the the total commission? That comes out to less then $6.00 ? Your all fighting over savin 6 dollars? Crap I thought it would be a whole lot more then that. Thanks for the reply Tina, I think I’ll pass. (no offense) If I spent $10,000 ,I’d get $60.00 back in commission. woo hoo . nope!
Our offer still stands for anyone to come forth (Tina, Nityasree?) and clear MPM’s name by giving some freakin’ type of proof that it is possible to make money with MPM.
Anyone at all?
I think this will be our last attempt at this, seeing as NO ONE has stepped forth. If I don’t hear from anyone by Monday, we might have to revisit this post.
What kind of proof are you looking for? Witht he attitude in this forum, anything we say will be picked apart anyway as being fradulent…so what is the point???
Well it does say (MPM info) you can make 4-6 grand. Can we start there? Anyone? 3-4 grand? 2-3? $500.00 ?
Scott
I have earned a total of around $100.00 between two malls..me and my husbands under me. …and the amount goes up everyday.
I have been paid parts of it, as not all of the commissions have been paid into MPM yet for all the purchases as it takes several months to clear through all the stores.
There you happy? I am sure that you will say I am just saying that now, right? And there is no way to prove what I am saying is the truth…
Although many people have problems with sharing what they are earning..I have none and feel proud of my accomkplishments..I have 350 on my team and I have done NO promoting in the last two months…I worked very hard the first two months and got sick and have fallen off promoting.
But I am sure now someone will say that I am making it up, and there is no proof…therefore it’s a scam…but that is all I am willing to give in terms of information.
By the way, I signed up in the start of August.
I am proud of MPM and what it is trying to do and more proud to be part of it.
How did I get to where I am now? Because I have not let anything stop me and I BELIEVE that MPM is the answer to my financial dreams.
Just for the sake of numbers.
Member for 5 months.
Referral count at 350.
Total earnings $100.
OR
A little over 28 cents per referral.
OR
$20 a month
And you honestly believe MPM is going to make you rich?
See, as everyone else’s posts prior who tried to share information about MPM got shot down by negativity, just as I suspected, my sharing an answer to your question just resulted in the same type of answer.
My upline has earned over $700.00…this takes time and energy to build and we are all aware that it is a long term business…but we are seeing the results AND getting paid.
And the answer to your question about my dreams…aside from the fact that all financial dreams do not have to be about getting RICH per se..is YES. I do. HOW you may ask? The answer is two fold…1) MPM is about giving and sharing…and anyone who knows about “getting rich” knows that a decent percentage of money you earn needs to tithed to charity in order for prosperity to flow to you and lucky me, this company has it already built into it…and 2) is because I will make it happen. And it is as simple as that.
I for one believe you Nity! You could have come here and tried to BS everyone. You seem very sincere.
Thank you.
I don’t know if 350 people is good or not. Like I said earlier, The site is down and I can’t play with the calculator. I don’t think I’d consider it . This isn’t a reflection on you . But
its seem to me , that 2 malls that have generated only $100 in almost 5 months doesn’t seem to be an inducement. I thank you for your honesty!
For anyone who actually read the review of MPM by this site, you can’t say they were biased. They presented their observations is a truthful way.
Tina and Nity, have both offered up facts as they see them. At this time , Barring all the bickering, I have to agree, there doesn’t appear to be much power.
With the economy more likely then not headed for another down turn , spending will also drop.
If I understand it, the success of the mall business relies on spending and commission.
I’m not an economist, but I don’t see how the forecast could be bright for this endeavor.
As far as savings in general, between what I hear about debit cards and fees ,no matter how slight, seem to off set any savings. I’ll stick to the warehouse stores and like Willa will continue to check for local sales. Another point I’d like to make is this. I understand there is a minimum commission to be earned . If your going to be saving via the commission route , doesn’t it make more sense to grab an immediate savings locally?
I’ve heard mention , A local business program. If I own a small shoe store for example, and it’s in a town of say 50,000 people , I doubt very seriously more then a handful will be MPM .Not much to induce me to join . A group of 89,000 among millions is not a strong number. Also why is it OK to say you save on gas in one post ,then tell people when the local merchants come along , shop there. your either saving gas or not! My last point..
who exactly will be issuing these debit cards? Which company? And can you let me know ? If I’m to trust tell with my funds, I’d like a little info.
I hope I was respectful enough for an informative and to the point reply. This is your opportunity MPMers .
I’m negative for saying that $20 a month isn’t going to make you rich?
If you took the time you spent promoting MPM and applied it elsewhere, you could easily be making ten times that much without giving a portion of what you make away. Not to mention, you wouldn’t have to SPEND money first in order to do so.
You call me negative; I call you blind.
I was reading this forum with interest as it seems that groupthink and “wanting to believe” takes over as emotions as even when the largest of proofs will make no difference until the final chapter is written.
Being 33, I have seen my share of mlms, network marketing copanies, etc. be it Beverly Hills International (deceased), Janglefish (deceased), Smartmall.biz (a free shopping portal that was deceased a few years back and a small version of this company it seems).
One thing I have seen left out of this discussion is the death of these companies. How can you be comfortable spending time and energy building a business that can close at any time for any reason?
I really would like to envision a compay where there is a great network of people consuming goods, providing residual income for each other in a matrix that would continually grow without anyone really receiving more than their fair share. But let’s face it, unless you start your own business, via affiliate marketing or whatever, how can you ever feel secure that one day your referral website will say “server not found” for good like the companies I have referenced?
I see plenty of dedication by these MPM folks.
Steve and most recently Jeff , have brought up some interesting issues.
One thought in particular struck me. If, just the die-hard folks from MPM that have voiced their views in this forum were to pool their energies as a small group, I think they would stand a better chance of success. I don’t see anything in all these posts that would get me to want to join a collection of someone else’s affiliates . I ‘m sorry ,but no matter how sincere the reasons are , there has to be a bottom line.
I’m sure most of you MPM folks are aware that you could open your own affiliate network with CJ ,in less then 15 minutes time. Ginny ,didn’t talk to all these stores. There is Commission junction,and I believe Linkshare , which will set you up. Set up your own business guys! Even if she calls you independant contractors , it’s not common precedure to pay a fee to get paid.
I like many before me aren’t here to belittle your efforts. We’re here to help. I don’t profit from your failure, nor does this site. Had Steve and Joe given your power mall a thumbs up , I’d venture to say MORE people would be here calling them liars ! So , you see, if the truth is there and your not seeing it, whatthe’s alternative? The only one to have presented facts was nity. by her own admission she had to cut back on her promotion. ( hope your feeling better)What about those who have promoted ,and quit because they saw the road was not taking them where they wanted to go. yes ,people want results today, not down the road ,or maybe if we change this or do that!!That my friends ,is an undeniable fact! These are the people your recruiting ,isn’t it?
Don’t answer me, just ask yourselves!
I’ve tried to be respectful ,open minded and attentive, but I have to agree with the original assessment that MPM appears powerless and without enough
positives that I’d feel comfortable it will even last past this time next year. With nearly 90,000 members you should be recruiting numbers far larger then I saw last nite. (Barely 400) For your sakes I hope you prove me wrong. I’d hate to see you all wake up to find your next update saying MPM closed! You deserve better!
Just so you die hard MPM fans know, The econonmy is your worst enemy , not us! So don’t be blasting this forum ,it’s operaters, and the posters! Who’s actually trying to paint a picture that’s not clear ? Is it us or the folks at the top of the MPM ladder? you decide!
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071216/holiday_shopping.html
Meanwhile, for online retailers, which likely finished their busiest days last week, their fate appears to be already sealed: holiday sales didn’t live up to industry’s hopes as lower-income shoppers pulled back on spending amid a housing slump. ComScore Inc. reported on Sunday that online sales from Nov. 1 through Dec. 14 rose 18 percent, below the 26 percent growth rate seen in the year-ago period and below the 20 percent projection for the season.
Meanwhile, for online retailers, which likely finished their busiest days last week, their fate appears to be already sealed: holiday sales didn’t live up to industry’s hopes as lower-income shoppers pulled back on spending amid a housing slump. ComScore Inc. reported on Sunday that online sales from Nov. 1 through Dec. 14 rose 18 percent, below the 26 percent growth rate seen in the year-ago period and below the 20 percent projection for the season.
“This holiday season at this point has been disappointing, whether they’re brick and mortar, catalog or online,” said C. Britt Beemer, chairman of America’s Research Group, based in Charleston, S.C. “Shopper are more frugal and cost-conscious because they have less money to spend.” As for Saturday and Sunday, he said, “This weekend was busy, but it wasn’t huge.”
You’ll all now excuse me, I’m going out Christmas shopping locally.The kids want to see Santa, and I love the Holiday songs and decorations . I’m sure my wife will appreciate all the effort I put in , knowing I Love her enough to actually brave the elements and went shopping for her “Hands On” . I greet people with a smile ,wish them happy holidays, we’ll smile and realize the season is about brotherhood ,and being good to each other. Not saving gas money by locking yourselves in the house!
I can’t imagine ever telling my kid to get on the PC and sit on Santa’s virtual lap!
Once again, thanks for letting babble on!
Merry Christmas To all And to All a good season!
Willa,I was stating an observation,as I am entitled.
Whether I wish to elaborate on it is my choice.
Who is to say I wouldn’t post again and ’speak my mind’as you put it.
Kindly do not make assumptions.
You don’t know me,I don’t know you.
I wasn’t singling anyone out here,only that a lot of the posts degenerate into little more than slanging matches.
Does that construe a intelligent and mature discussion to you?
Not in my book.
I am not trying to provoke,making an observation,stating my opinion.
I would say a fair few posts here would define ‘provocation’ than mine!
Btw,’my dear boy’?Sorry sweetie,wrong gender.
As for ’seeing my kind over the years’ ,again,you are very wide of the mark and drawing your own conclusions yet again.
You are of course entitled to form your opinion of me (which wrong)just as I am entitled to call it as I see it.
Scott you said ~ Just so you die hard MPM fans know, The econonmy is your worst enemy , not us!
I just read this in my local newspaper ~
According to a major credit card company spending on womens apparel has dropped nearly 6 percent during the first half of the Christmas season, but MasterCard found that online spending had surged about 30 percent, well above the average growth this year!
This is just something I took from my local paper today.
The trend is going towards online shopping. And MPM is following that trend. Scott, you don’t have to do all of your shopping online to do this business. I shop in the stores. My kids are too old for Santas Lap anymore but I understand the excitement of shopping in the stores at Christmas time. I think one could do both. Why should there be only one or the other. I see technology taking over and part of the technology is being able to order online. Many times you can order things online and pick them up in the stores as well. I ordered about $200 worth of giftcards this year and they will be sent to my house ready for gift giving!
There’s just more than one way to look at it! That’s all I’m pointing out. Not trying to be smarter than anyone else but I think it’s only fair for both sides to state opinions.
Off to sit near my warm cozy fire with my cozy socks on and finish up the rest of my Christmas Shopping sipping on my some apple cider! (there is no one right answer for anyone)
Christmas Wishes for EVERYONE!
MY MY My,
infinity,Pardon my gender blunder ! Please.
It must have been something you said…..Oh wait you really didn’t have anything to contribute did you? So sorry..As my New friend here ,Cam so aptly put it ..”get your panties unbunched”
I ‘ll be ever so grateful to you for allowing me to “form my own opinion” . Your so gracious.
The tenor of this discussion for the most part is civil. I find those on the defensive (mostly the MPMers) to be the ones using rudeness . IE: Haters
So let me ask you Infinity, have you something worth wile to add regarding MPM or will you just be adding a critique of our writing styles.
You’ve said I was wrong about your gender, I’ll take your word for that,but regardless, I have seen your type. Chronologically you may have surpassed 12 , but your input to this forum could have easily be presented by an 11 year old!
“How old are you , enough said ” Ah yes …truely words every debate master will surely add to his arsenal of quick retort!
Scott , Thank You for your contribution . Merry Christmas, you’ll be missed.
And Nity, I also applaud your attempt to present the facts.
I’ll be waiting with bated breathe for Infinity
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I look forward to her facts concerning MPM. or maybe global warming , holiday cookies ? hmmm what will she surprise us with next?
Keep the insults to a minimum. If I see you guys continue to bicker like four year olds, I’ll block you from posting further comments, put your email on display for the world (read:spammers) to find, and then release the hounds.
I really don’t want to have to release the hounds.
Tina can we have the link please for that article. Also, could ya give us a rough figure on how much you’ve yourself spent through your mall this month.
I don’t seem to be able to find yer Mall on the power spenders list.
Hall Power Mall ,isn’t it !
I’ve seen your posts as well ,when the MPM forum actually operates. Your indeed quite a cheerleader. But I just can’t seem to locate your name on the spenders list, nor owen , nor Brads, nor Ginny’s ,nor cybermommy and all those who are quick to stick there noses into each post.
WHERE THE Heck is your name on that shopping list ?
I don’t see any of the people who have posted here’s names . Those who I
can cross referance that is. Tina is Hallpowermall.
Insults ? I thought I was responding to someone that thought we weren’t old enough for cogent thought. I won’t upset the masses any longer.
Oh well , In that case, I bid you all farewell.
Tina had the right thought, Hot Cider it is!
Willa.
I myself enjoyed the verbal back and forth.
But I guess I’m done here as well! You all win… Join MPM it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
you’ll all make 4-6 thousand a month. Your teams will grow faster then you can ever imagine!
It’s the most powerful thing on the net, no failures! It’s 100% free! Don’t forget to nominate Ms Dye for sainthood. Moses went to the wilderness and Ginny goes up her mountain for inspiration. It’s a freakin miracle .
Everyone happy now?
Happy holidays all !
G-LTD
Hi! Yes, I JUST spent my $200 yesterday! I always spend more than $200/mo. The reason that you don’t see my mall on the list this month is because record of that purchase would not be recorded until after my products have been shipped. Thanks for noticing tho!
The article came straight out of my local newspaper as I said. I will see if I can find the article online so I can direct you to the link!
I haven’t had anything to hide~ hallpowermall is my mall! Thanks for pointing that out too! You CAN see me on the 10+ club list. But if you would like varification of my shopping in the past 3 months…
9/1/2007 – 12/1/2007 N A $657.03
That is copied from my back office sales report and these figures do not include yesterdays purchases of $200.
Thanks of pointing these things out!
Bestest,
Tina
Link to that article ~
It came from my local paper but originated from the NY times ~ here’s the article
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/business/17retail.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin
Not sure how to post links on here so you’ll have to cut and paste I guess.
Thanks G-LTD!
Have a nice day!
Tina
Thanks ,I’ll check it out, along with keeping an Eye out for you in the Power Spenders club.
At least it’s something. not much commission but it’s something. Don’t take this the wrong way ok…. but I’d like to see or at least hear from someone who making enough money to get me involved. I don’t want to wait till next year or the next after that. I guess I’m in the show me the Money club! I see the MPM forum has interest in BigCrumbs. I’ll get my money every month!
Thanks again Tina, Thanks to everyone else too!
Hey can I get some of that cider
You’re welcome and just let me know where to send the cider!
This comes off MPM new ‘onethingprogram.com ” site.
In Ginny’s own words , it appears like the numbers aren’t crunching. Since that letter went out 6 weeks ago we had almost $600,000 spent on the Mall in November but the number was driven by higher shopping amounts for Christmas – not by a healthy increase in the number of people shopping. 1000 more people shopped on the Mall in November but the reality is that still less than 5% of all MPM members used their Mall in November. 4183 members out of 88,000 used their Mall. What is going on with the other 84,000? I had to come up with a solution that would answer that question.
Since that letter went out 6 weeks ago we had almost $600,000 spent on the Mall in November but the number was driven by higher shopping amounts for Christmas – not by a healthy increase in the number of people shopping. 1000 more people shopped on the Mall in November but the reality is that still less than 5% of all MPM members used their Mall in November. 4183 members out of 88,000 used their Mall. What is going on with the other 84,000? I had to come up with a solution that would answer that question.
Her solution ? Make every new member agree to buy one thing ever month. Don’t buy you loss your “free business” . Why didn’t she make every member new and old do it ?
She couldn’t! The contract the original folks signed didn’t have this clause.
What happened to shopping for “just the things you need?” Lol if ya wanna play the MPM game, ya need to buy into it every month. Also , if she could have forced every member to shop ,the membership numbers would most likely fall to about 5000 from the 90,000 today.
4183 out of 88,000 ? I wonder what the other 84,000 know that the others don’t! Better yet,when these things get laid out why would someone else still support MPM ? I bet someone wishes her $500,000 was still in the bank!
Lastly , Marketing Pond has MPM and BigCrumbs,com listed as free. After the debit card debacle, and now mandatory shopping, guess who’s being removed from the ranks of “FREE” .
This is all simple research ,not hate, or name calling. So give we a break about being Anti MPM. This came from a MPM sponsored site.
4183 out of 88.000 ??? yes, theres the proof. It is powerless!
It’s VERY good news for serious MPM business owners.
G-LTD ~ I’m now on the power spenders list in case you were looking out for me! Under $200 (I purchased $200 in gift certificates from 4 different stores! Even got my daughter a GAS CARD)! I’ll be moving up another $95 too because I purchased some books last night from Barnes and Noble! One for my son ~ it’s called FAVRE because he’s a big Green Bay fan! Free shipping too! I also got that video collection The Planet Earth.
Hey ya all ~ one item a month is nothing! You can even download a song from itunes for a buck and that would count! Not hard to be creative! But you can’t expect to build a business and not shop in your own mall! It doesn’t make sense!
Let’s quit looking for the BAD in everything
For what it’s worth, I agree with Tina on this one. Requiring members to shop is the best business move MPM has made since opening its doors. Those numbers Q posted mean MPM has 83,817 hangers-on: people who own malls but expect their downline to do all the building and spending. Requiring mall owners to actually shop is the only thing that might keep MPM going, IMO, even if their overall membership drops drastically in the short term.
Will it be easier or harder to recruit new members to replace the “hanger-ons” . The one intriqing aspect ofall this was The free aspect.
Now,if there are minumums attached to spending ,what’s the inducement? Also I see the added extra $4.50 maintance fee something that will be a red flag for some!
The 12.50 for the initial card ,plus the 4.50 per month maintanace fee are stiff .Will there still be the 2.50 reload fee along with the 4.50?
I’ve also been looking into BigCrumbs. Why is it they don’t attched such stiff fees? I believe it’s a dollar or two max. per commission or 2%.
Joe, do you charge us to use your site? or are were satisfied with what ever affiliate sales produce? you have an opportunity to make a few extra bucks, promote your book and so on . I know your not considering charging. When people hear theres a cost attched ,I can’t see the attraction. I’ve been taught ,that any intenet business that asks for your money in the beginning or anywhere down the line is one to pass over.
The question should be why AREN”T 83,817 people shopping?
If anyone deserves to make money it’s Tina. This lady is relentless..lol
Tina, why aren’t the others shopping ? I believe you’ll give your honest opinion and not some company line!
I think larger cut on the upper rungs is a whole lot lore attractive. 7% of an 8% commission isn’t atractive unless your talkin those China numbers!
Joe,
Sorry, but i need to know who you ewere refering to as Hanger-ons ? I just looked ar the MPM forum
again and noticed there was more then one instance where somebody posted that they were getting hits ,but no sign ups. Would these people be lumped into the group of hanger ons? Also I see many folks who have spent money every month promoting via Imedia, coops , mass media etc .
Should those folks be required to spent monthly as well. I know the new members will be the only ones required to shop. But between , promoting and all I’m not sure if we should use hanger-ons.
Now me for instance ,I may be your classic hanger on. I’ll keep my mall , hope folks like Tina promote the hell out of it , spend big bucks and make me rich! . Nah..just kidding Tina, I checked your not in my downline…lol
I think Joe’s in my downline …lol
And I’ll starve before he spends….lol
I’ll stick with my question , Why Aren’t the others shopping?
taken from Joe:
“For what it’s worth, I agree with Tina on this one. Requiring members to shop is the best business move MPM has made since opening its doors. Those numbers Q posted mean MPM has 83,817 hangers-on: people who own malls but expect their downline to do all the building and spending. Requiring mall owners to actually shop is the only thing that might keep MPM going, IMO, even if their overall membership drops drastically in the short term.”
If this is true , and it IS the best thing THEY could do, why don’t the others make the same provisions for their groups. Since it’s been mentioned before, Big Crumbs. As I understand it there is no need for the mandatory spending ,nor the added fee’s for compensation there.
Anyone?
Q: A hanger on in a shopping-based business is anyone who doesn’t shop. That would include me. I must be such a disappointment to you if I’m in your downline. Why aren’t the other 83,000 shopping? That’s the question, isn’t it? I don’t have an answer.
Keith: Good question. Maybe the MPM payout structure is more ambitious? Actually, I think it would be good for the others, too.
Thanks Joe,
That’s the BIG question! Why are so many people not shopping? It’s funny because the support for this new one thing program has been strong. I think that when it’s not required of us, some people tend to sit back and wait. Many have the same mentality of ‘I’ll just wait until I see some money from this before I shop’. But if you punch in the numbers you will see that people don’t have to spend a LOT in order for this to work but everyone needs to do something. I think it makes for a more attractive business knowing that those you recruit will be shopping. And I had an average number of new members join my team today ~ first day of the new program. Now when people join MPM they actually check that they understand the requirement of shopping for one item a month. So they are coming into this with that understanding. And if people just start looking through their malls they will find all sorts of things that they NEED to buy anyway. For example today I was looking through the stores and I noticed that I could get my business checks and deposit slips through my mall. I ALMOST bought them straight from my bank for 10 dollars more than I could get them in my mall. ONE EXAMPLE.
Q..I’m making my mother in law rich! HAA! Maybe you could buy her mall from her! LOL!
The fee ~ The $4.50 does not apply if you have a zero balance by the end of the month. So you either spend it or you move it into your bank acct. If there is a fee a percentage goes into the MPM payment plan. If you compare it to other debit cards it’s very competitive. The reason for the cards and not paypal is it goes along with the new local merchants program (launching in Feb) and it’s universal. The Debit Cards will be available to anyone in the world.
I don’t have all the answers but I am keeping an open mind and eager to see where this goes. Joe~ check out shoes.com in your mall. Free shipping and they have a huge selection!
I didn’t get a chance to read all the comments but I notice in the last comment, Tina said there is a requirement to shop for one item a month? Oops, I guess I did not read the agreement carefully enough. What happens if I don’t shop for one item a month? Should I cancel my account to avoid fees? Thank you.
First of all there are no fees for not shopping. And if you joined prior to December 19th you are ‘grandfathered in’ so this will not effect you. If you joined on or after the 19th of December (yesterday) you will already be fully aware of this because you would have checked a box stating that you were aware of this. So no ~ I would keep my mall if I were you for sure Julia!
MPM is not charging fees. The company that handles the debit card is. And there is not a requirement to how much you must spend in your mall. It’s just taking responsiblity for your business and buying one item that you would buy anyway. With over 1000 stores and over a million products it shouldn’t be difficult to buy one item from your mall.
But as I said ~ unless you joined yesterday Julia this would not be a requirement for you.
Dec.20 2007
11:19 AM
Tina, and the other “voices” of MPM,
It seems your a wealth of information on the topic at hand. May we consider you a legal representative for the “MY POWER MALL” group.
Will you accept responsibility (legal)that each of your statements, and every representation is true and accurate?
Also , are you and the other Representatives of the aforementioned business prepared to provide written ,notarized (by notary in your area)as to the validity of your facts, figures, and any other pertinent claims as to the said “business”?
Will you also stand by the legality of the MPM contract,which new “recruits” to MPM are now asked to comply?
Your reply in this matter will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Michael K. B.
Copied from the MPM forum …
It appears the Sh*t has hit that fan. Those some support the changes ,it looks like others have had enough. I never signed up , to promote it, I was just interested to see if Joe’s assessment was acurate. I never knew there would be this extra drama!
Here’s one of the lastest posts. most of the others are from people trying to figure out what the h is going on. Ginny even join the forum, but I guess not even she was convincing enough.
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Post #2
Group: Members
Posts: 0
Joined: Yesterday, 08:27 PM
Member No.: 2,179
How the Grinch stole Christmas!
I feel like I’ve been hit by a train with this debit card! It’s isn’t going to help me. It’s going to ruin me. I’m going to lose a lot of the malls I have, and I don’t know how I can sell this to new prospects. I don’t believe in it. Forget the glowing hype—the bomb drops immediately!
I have built about 130 malls with the “free and simple” message. MPM is no longer free, and not so simple either. When many of my existing malls find out how they have been “entrapped” with this debit card, they will be furious and that will be the end of it. Nobody will ever sell them a marketing plan again. I don’t know how I can promote this to find new malls.
We really are a MLM now, and maybe worse, because at least they are up front about their fees, while MPM is trying to back door them.
MPM is very proud of the fact that it took 5 yrs and $500,000 to structure MPM. But it seems they never had a real payment plan in place! And that is basic to this business!
I don’t think it is fair (and probably not legal either!) to put this debit card condition for getting paid onto members who signed up before MPM designed it. It smells like extortion.
If Ginny wanted to start a company to help minorities handle their money, that is fine, but it should not be locked into MPM. We are (were?) a shopping company, not a financial management company.
I don’t mind the “One Thing” change. That is small and no real burden. Maybe it will help. This debit card deal seems like an “in house” rerun of the GiftCertificates uproar we just went through. That was a disaster, and this is much the same.
There are other concerns, which I have tried to be patient about as “growing pains.” Now I’m not sure. It does not take 45-90 days for commissions to show up, as we often hear. It is 3-4 months, and then only dribbles. It can now take 6-9 months to see a first small payment from MPM, and with the debit card charges to overcome that could stretch longer. How can I honestly sell that plan to anybody?
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I’m more tenacious than most, but I feel like the Grinch really has stolen Christmas from me! I was thrilled with this program and saw the long term potential. I thought I had a friend for life in MPM! It has become a different animal! We can’t sign anybody up by forcing them to use a debit card and pay hidden fees—they will only run faster in some other direction.
God help us all! Don’t quit your day job yet!
Patty K.
I am simply a MPM member that is promoting the business and what it stands for. The information that I have provided here is how I personally interpret what has been provided to me from the CEO and staff. I am in no way an employee of MPM or Together We Can Change the World. I obviously believe in the company and it’s goals and am answering questions the best I know how to answer them to clear up any misinformation or just enlighten you with my sunny outlook on life!
For anyone that really wants to find out for themselves I would recommend joining and finding out these facts first hand. I would give you my business website but that would be considered spamming and probably not allowed here. So I would need to be asked! haha!
There is no risk ~ no financial information will be asked from you when you join. You can thoroughly look over everything for yourself.
Tina
Checking back in…..
I applaud Tina for “taking the hits” for MPM. She believes in the company and whether or not we agree with her I feel she should be congratulated for standing up for what she believes in.
However, to ask her if she should be considered the legal respresentative is just plan ridiculous! I ask you, Michael, would you be willing to sign a notarized statement for whatever company you are with to be the legal representative for them? If not, then why ask the question of Tina? So why try to poke fun at Tina?
It just seems that there are people here just for the sake of argument. Are you working your own businesses?? What could you be doing that is beneficial to your personal & professional growth?
It’s not about who’s right about MPM. It’s about preference. People have the right to belong to whatever company they choice to – no matter what.
I’m sure the owners of this blog are loving it as their Search Engine Rankings are increasing.
I wish you all the very best this holiday season!
LOL – This place must be getting to me. I meant “choose” to.
Oh…is that what he was doing? Poking fun? I thought he was under the impression that I was a lawyer or something….do I really sound that smart?! j/k Ahhhh Shamrocked again! I can’t always tell. LOL
Thanks Tigerlily
Dec.20 2007
2:46 P.M.
Quote:I ask you, Michael, would you be willing to sign a notarized statement for whatever company you are with to be the legal representative for them? Close Quote:
To answer your question in one simple word ,YES.
As a matter of fact , I have to do it on a regular basis. In my chosen profession, I’m often not only required to submit notarization of my statements, I’m very often asked to testify to things pertaining to my findings.
The questions were posed , not as you assumed to poke fun, I’m trying to discern if Tina had any legal connection to MPM. I’d suggest that any representation of earning indeed be present by evidence. Speculation, can only be valued in this case as nothing more then opinion and should not ,I repeat should not be in anyway representative as fact!
Unfortunately , recent history has left many endeavors such as, Smartmall.biz , and Janglefish, with members who were mislead,and often left without compensation . Unfortunately , these “businesses” seem to appear out of no where and disappear in the middle of the night, even after your all comfortably settled in.
My suggestion is , research first, and avoid any business that charges a fee to participate. Second ,ask for proof. If none can be furnished , move on.
The choice is indeed yours.
By law, all I can tell anyone is “be cautious were you tread. ”
Michael B.
Michael B,
Please accept my apology if as you say your intention was to determine if Tina was a legal representative of MPM. I’m sure you can understand that the climate for MPM members is at best negative and I hate to see anyone with honorable intentions raked over the coals.
Best Regards.
Post Script:
As I was asking questions , Please don’t consider this, my invitation to further debate. While I or others may be monitoring the passionate back and forth exchange of ideas, I myself am not being compensated for anything other then research!
Thank you, and Happy Holidays.
Michael B.
Michael, are you on retainer, or otherwise employed by, or conducting research for, My Power Mall?
Nemo: Glad I could help you out with the extra drama. Never a dull moment at I’ve Tried That. (That’s not true. We have lots of dull moments.)
As much as I’d like to say , I’m really not at liberty to say Joe. I too, have to follow the rule of law.
Sounds like a fed or a lawyer… Tina ,what you putting in that cider??????
Yeah…I better watch what I say. Now back to my cider!
Yum!
My suggestion is , research first, and avoid any business that charges a fee to participate. Second ,ask for proof. If none can be furnished , move on.
The choice is indeed yours.
By law, all I can tell anyone is “be cautious were you tread. ”
Michael B.
I myself am not being compensated for anything other then research!
Thank you, and Happy Holidays.
Michael B.
I don’t know how anyone is going to say this guy is a hater.
Regardless of how anyone feels, ain’t these good rules to follow?
I mean I read over most of these posts, some were bitter some weren’t.
The fact remains that using some MPM persons own numbers ,it still doesn’t look so good
Nobody disputed this and i wonder why. i see it as proof it’s not working.
Steve on December 15th, 2007 8:57 pm Just for the sake of numbers.
Member for 5 months.
Referral count at 350.
Total earnings $100.
OR
A little over 28 cents per referral.
OR
$20 a month
And you honestly believe MPM is going to make you rich?
The following are the ceo words:
1000 more people shopped on the Mall in November but the reality is that still less than 5% of all MPM members used their Mall in November. 4183 members out of 88,000 used their Mall. What is going on with the other 84,000? I had to come up with a solution that would answer that question.
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so logically one has to ask if only 5% are shopping ,how many would I have to sign up to make more then say 100 beans a month?
If I understand the program , and you only have to spend a buck a month, and I signed up 1000 people that’s still not generating much commission.more but not much. 7% of the total even at 20% commission .is like 10bucks. Sure some will spend more but how many?
I’m really trying to see how this works . I’m open minded and I’m just using MPM figures.
Like Mike ,I’m not gettin nuthin from this. Hell he’s gettin paid to ask. Christmas shopping over for the net this year, I gotta wonder what you figures will be after this season.
I’m askin not bashin..
Now give me some cider!
Tina, I want to join MPM
which of these two ads do you think will work best?
“Hi. I have three kids and want to work at home. Can someone please send me info on an opportunity that allows me to make money for a bunch of people I don’t know?”
or how bout this here one
“Join us and make me rich by spending your money!”
I finally see it ! lol
These weren’t my ads. I seen em some where else.
I thought this was funny stuff ,but also boils it down sum for us dummies!
How about ~ Start your own business with no out of pocket costs! Nothing to sell! All the tools and training you need included. Your own business website to send those to that are looking for an opportunity such as this! Your own online mall ~ shop directly from over 1100 online stores and get money back from your purchases. Do you think Macy’s is going to offer you money back if you walk into the store in person? Not unless you are returning something!
I’m glad you all find humor in this. But as for me ~ I see that MPM is the answer to the problems many face in Network Marketing. If you don’t understand Network Marketing to begin with then don’t even try to find your answer in MPM. But if you are educated in Network Marketing and the compensation plans that many offer ~ take a closer look at MPM and you will see that it has it all!
I feel that I have a minimal understanding of what Network Marketing is and how you can benefit from it LONG TERM. After looking at many other companies I have come to the conclusion that MPM is the answer. I’m not trying to sign anyone up here! I’m not benefiting from your decisions about MPM. Maybe I shouldn’t be here at all but I’m one of those types that if I see something being misconstued I want to correct the misinformation and make right.
Thanks for listening but I’m having one of those days….gad I need another Cider!
Tina,
relax,sugar. We ain’t about beatin you up.
But how is it, most of us here haven’t been convinced and 95% of your own members there at MPM ain’t workin the program. What you and maybe 3 or 4 others are sayin is the rest of us are WRONG ,hell,ya’ll got 85,000 of your own to convince.
I for one ain’t beatin on ya. But look at the numbers…you tellin us your right and 85,000 folks are wrong and found no power? I actually hope you make it, your a real sweetheart,that’s what makes it more painful. Your not seeing it and thinking it’s us who ain’t seeing it. Bootom line ,we don’t get nothin by examing the facts.
Why ain’t your 85,000 plus shoppin and promoting ? Maybe if those numbers weren’t so glaring .who knows,,we ain’t lookin to spoil your xmas Tina! really we’re tryin to cover your back.
I can’t speak for the other 85,000 members. But in my organization alone ~ I have 14 members that have already personally sponsored 10 or more others on their front line. I have 24 that have sponsored 5 or more on their front line. I have made over 180 dollars in commissions and it’s getting better all the time! So people aren’t joining and doing nothing! Some aren’t shopping but that’s because they weren’t required to shop. Would you pay taxes if it wasn’t required for you to? Sure, you’d do it because it was the right thing to do right? Well, many wouldn’t. And that was the one problem with MPM. This has been fixed. I’m STILL getting new people joining under me. But now they know what is required of them when they join. I’m not saying that MPM didn’t need to make that change! I just feel that knowing what I know about the changes that have been made and the new programs to be innitiated next year ~ MPM is a GREAT company! It’s ok if you don’t see it now. I REALLY know that I will be successful in this.
Not convinced? Then just wait until it happens for me and then you can WISH I had convinced you before… 
It’s ok if you all laugh at me now. I can’t expect for you all to be for me when my family feels the same way as many of you do! But I also know that many successful people have been laughed at. And that if they had let that stop them they never would have been successful at those things that they became successful. So I will continue to work this program and continue to try to make you all understand that IF you are looking to join a network marketing program that MPM is the one that will deliver!
I’m ok…it was the day I was having that wasn’t!
I can just imagine how many people made fun of ol’ Benjamin when he was out flying that kite in the electrical storm!
Tina
Like I said Tina, We ain’t makin fun at you. If there is anyone that can make it doing this, I’m sure your the one. Ya’ll got some kinda fire burnin in you. I want you to understand that even though you don’t know me, I respect ya .
I’d also like to thank this forum for allowing folks like Tina to speak their minds.
Maybe ,when you go back to talk with your MPm friends you’ll let them know that nobodys trying to sell books, have a laugh or call MPM folks names.
Maybe , your folks will respect the views of others as well . Even if the don’t share the same
starlight ya’ll do. Let’s make a deal ,the day get your 3rd payment of funds over 4 grand you come back an wiggle that tongue our way. and if that day comes , i’ll personally join MPM with you as the sponsor!
Fair nuff? I said 4 g’s cuz that way ya’lls promo said was possible .
We ain’t gonna agree on power mall till then .You have a great holiday Tina , spend lot’s of money, and make that upline of urs proud. lol j/k
be good!
Cam
Ok Cam ~ thats a deal and enough incentive to work my can off now!
So you will need proof of 4 grand and then you will join underneath me. You better not join under anyone else then before that~ even if your mother or brothers girlfriends best friends aunt joins first! haha!
Ok…thanks and I will have a great holiday Cam and I wish for you to do the same!
Tina
Seasons Greetings,
After reading that little joke about Michael being a lawyer,I asked my self if he is why would he be here? Then it hit me . Power Mall says it ISN”T a pyramid because it doesn’t cost you anything right? Ok follow me here.
With their new program in place requiring new members to shop, and as Ginny says a small cut goes back to her and her foundations, isn’t this now an offical pyramid. You’ll be buying from a retailor ,that I understand, but Ginny and all the older members will profit from the new members sale.
If they don’t spend every month ,they lose membership?
I’m not sure, but it might not be legal. any opinions. I’m going to ask a law prof. after Christmas break. This doesn’t seem right.
What else would a lawyer be doing here, if he wasn’t looking into something . It was different if you were forced to buy into it.
I came across this ad today while looking on craigslist. I’d like someone from Power Mall to stand up and say the facts presented in this ad are true. This isn’t an old ad.It was in todays Dallas C.L under sm biz!
Just by what I’ve read here even i know this if full offOwens and Romo Aren’t the Only Winning Combination in Dallas!
the ad is as follows:
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Reply to: see below
Date: 2007-12-22, 1:03AM CST
Dallas, the city that is home to America’s Team. First of all, I would like to congratulate your city on an awesome football season! The possibilities are limitless and potential has turned into production. Don’t you just love it when you add something new to something that is already good and it makes it even better? It seems like you do Dallas, especially when it comes to online shopping. Well, not quite, because I have your missing ingredient. Dallas, let me explain.
Introducing My Power Mall. The first online shopping program of it’s kind! You gain access to over 1000 stores that have over 100 million products offered by brands you know, love and trust all from the comfort of your own home!
But, wait, that is not the best part. My Power Mall rebates a portion of every single dollar you spend in your mall, up to 55%, and cuts you a check for it every month! This online shopping rebate program will revolutionize your online shopping as you know it!
So what are you waiting for? Sign up takes less than 5 minutes and is absolutely FREE! Become a member @ http://www.virtualskyline.com and start saving on everything you buy for the rest of your life TODAY!
Easy Sign Up? 478-394-8011
lies!
first off it isn’t the first! second you don’t get paid every month unless you earn your 25 bucks in commission
third MPm does cut anyone a check
And it’s interesting no mention made of the new you gotta buy something program.
Is it any wonder people get skeptical?
If you want to get business , be honest with people!
This came directly off the MPM forum. I won’t editorialize, nor comment! The post says it all.
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Hi ,
I just want to send a warning if you think shopping on your power mall is safe.
I made a large purchase for a Bowflex from Gatley’s which was in MY POWERMALL in Sept. 2007. They offered a BillMeLater account and I set that up and began my payments for the 90 days no interest. I waited for my Bowflex, the time passed that it should have arrived. I emailed the customer service and no reply. I went back to MY POWERMALL to see if I could find a contact phone number and found it was not on the mall anymore.
I did a search and went directly to the Gatley website and found it was not open for orders but I was able to get the contact snail mail address. I also found from that search on Gatley’s a site of consumer complaints. There were dozens of complaints listed there about people not getting their orders after paying for them. I went to the BBB and registered a complaint. After some more investigating, I discovered Gatley’s had filed Chapter 11, that one month later changed to Chapter 7. This company had complaints against it for over 2 years! Why were they in MY POWERMALL??
They were also still taking orders after filing Chapter 11.
I emailed MPM ADMIN to ask for help, I got a lame reply, “sorry that happened, maybe you should write the company and ask for your money back” is what they said. I emailed ADMIN again and did not get a second reply. This was Thanksgiving week.
I am out $822 and there is still a balance due on the BillMeLater account for $411. I have written BillMeLater also and said I expect them to credit my account as they listed their merchants as “safe shopping”.
I am so disappointed in MPM lack of response to me and I cannot trust shopping on the power mall nor be able to encourage someone to join.
I will be canceling my mall, (and my family members too) but before I do I wanted to make this post.
Be careful and check out the merchants yourself before you trust a corporation to do it for you. I feel I will have to go to the BBB for all my future online purchases to avoid being robbed again.
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I guess Ginny Dye won’t be making a return visit here now for sure! It looks like this laureIM was looking for some direction from MPM. What a slap in the face for her to get snubbed . It didn’t sound like she was holding MPM responsable, but wanted a little direction as where to turn next.
I guess the only direction MPM goes is shop,promote and let the wounded fall by the way side! Shame on you MPM shame on you all!
I wonder if folks like Tina, Tigerlily and the others will jump in and try to help this w omen . Will they show her compassion. Will they ask the 90,000 weak (not 90,000 strong). Will they all agree to send this women a dollar each so she can at least have faith in people at least! I challenge all those loud moth MPM people to donate 1 dollar until this family can be made whole. Heck you all say your going to make thousands. Now show some compassion!
Ginny, I would expect your name at the top of the donation list! This was one of your tin soldiers as some one else said! If you all give me MPM’s address, I’ll put in the second dollar myself ,right behing Ginny’s!
This was really a heartbreaker.
One child at a time ,but not a team member?
Hi all,
I saw the story about this person not getting any support from MPM admin. Someone should tell her to contact her credit card company quick!
Also , had she used her new debit card ,I’m not sure she’d be protected by the $50.00 rule,that cuts off her obligation at $50.00. Many debit cards won’t !
I was a MPM member who never got paid. offically my name is still on their list, and I’ve yet to recieve anything. Yes ,I’ll provided proof of this if need be! I have $43.00 in commissions of which $29.00 is due and payable now according to MPM records.
I’m now with BigCrumbs,thanks to a MPM persons referal.
I’d like to add my name to the list to donate as well. I pledge $5.00 to help this MPM member to get her money back. I do this in the name of Bigcrumbs.com,
Thanks,
ps23 mall
If the owners of this site feel this is spam , Edit at will, I’d understand. But I really do think this person deserved better!
Merry Christmas!
You make sarcastic remarks on here about me and don’t know a thing about me. You don’t know how I actually have sent a member on my team $20 in the mail to pay for an online membership of $10 and an extra $10 to pay for groceries! How I have taken other MPM members that are not in my downline at all and helped them in this business with no benefit of my own. AND I do feel for anyone that has had the misfortune of dealing with a company that has handled business poorly. But I or MPM is responsible for that store and what they did. As far as someone misrepresenting MPM in an AD how do you think I or any of the MPM Admin can weed these out as well. I know that in the past Ginny has warned MPM members that have misrepresented the business with shutting down their malls. But it’s impossible for her to watchdog every single ad out there! And sometimes new members are so excited to start promoting this new opportunity that they don’t understand the way things work before they advertise.
I know you all are just waiting for MPM to fall down. There’s nothing I or anyone can say to make you think positively. MPM is NOT a pyramid. You are not paying MPM money to join.
I just resent the sarcasm when you really don’t know me and that directed toward Ginny Dye who has dedicated her life to helping others! It’s amazing how you can twist the facts to portray MPM in a bad light. I was enjoying talking to many on this thread (those that have been fair with what they have said) but after those last few comments I have decided that there is nothing more I can do or say to bring common sense to the table. I find some of the comments absurd but I have tried to stay to keep things from being misrepresented. If someone asks me a logical question without sarcasm I might return to answer but there are some people that never get it.
Merry Christmas to those I enjoyed on here! And have a Happy New Year in 2008!
Tina
How’s does one translate MPM being responsible for what the store did? The point I was trying to make was since Thanksgiving, she has been waiting for MPM admin to reply with a suggestion as to where to turn. You automatically get all heated up and the point was Why isn’t Ginny helping this important team member. I say important because ,with a purchase of over $1200.00 ,isn’t this the type of member you want? never once was it implied that MPM or Ginny herself was reasonable to pay here back. I said I’d donate $1.00 to help her recoup some of her loss. With 90.000 plus member raising 1200 dollars shouldn’t be that hard. As far as you giving money to your team . I think that wonderful. But what about the rest of the members who are quick to point out how wonderful Ginny and her charity work is?
Let’s hear it MPMer . Put your money where your mouths are!
Just on this site alone we’ve raised Six bucks. Maybe you all wouldn’t mind chipping in to help one of your own . Or maybe we should just wait until Ginny says it’s a good idea. Tina you don’t trust us. So you should understand that we don’t trust you and especially Ginny Dye! That’s her cross to bear!
Here and now in front of the whole world I predict the next big failure is the launching of the merchant program. .
First off ~ she is not out $1200. And I quote ~ They offered a BillMeLater account and I set that up and began my payments for the 90 days no interest.
Second of all I’m sure that the credit card company will refund her the moneys as soon as the dispute is resolved. It was a typo but what I meant was that we are NOT responsible, as you pointed out. And she also said that Admin DID reply to her email just not in the manner that she would have liked them to.
You and who else doesn’t TRUST me? Who is WE!? Are you speaking for JOE here and the entire group? And WHY may I ask that I have lost trust in you? Just wondering. And you’re right Ginny HAS already raised money for charities. How many of you all here have set up an operation that raises money for many of those that need it?
So you obviously do not want to do this business. Why don’t you just move on then? There are those that do. I had 4 new members join me just TODAY!
I trust Ginny! I spoken with her personally so I have the advantage of getting to know her on a little more personal level than you. And I trust my own good judgement. It hasn’t misled me yet! I also believe the the merchants program will be a huge success. I will be signing up my store and I know many others that will be happy to participate. With the economy in such bad shape, people will have another way to create income.
quote by Tina:
And she also said that Admin DID reply to her email just not in the manner that she would have liked them to.
quote by Laurel:
“I emailed ADMIN again and did not get a second reply. This was Thanksgiving week.”
Now I ask , Why do you think she and her family have quit?
I’ll trust her (Laurel’s) words:
“I am so disappointed in MPM lack of response to me and I cannot trust shopping on the power mall nor be able to encourage someone to join.
I will be canceling my mall, (and my family members too) but before I do I wanted to make this post.”
Maybe next time you and Ginny chit-chat, she’ll explain what the next person should do when they get screwd over by one of Ginny’s affiliates! I am right in assuming they are her affiliates aren’t I ? She is the Ceo and Founder ,the one with the vision ? I hope those terms don’t offend you ..SHE uses them at every opportunity!
And finally ,your right! She isn’t out $1200.00 I apologize ! It’s more!
“I am out $822 and there is still a balance due on the BillMeLater account for $411. I have written BillMeLater also and said I expect them to credit my account as they listed their merchants as “safe shopping”.”
822
+411
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1233
She wrote to Billme later and told them she “expected them to credit her acct.” She never said she WAs credited! I think that’s why she used words like “I’m out” and “balance due”!
Cider anyone?
I had 4 new members join me just TODAY!
lol
221 new sign ups today,Tina got 4 of them , that leaves 217 new sign up the rest of 92,455 as of
11:45 pm cst
Lets see, nobody is spending = ’s make spending mandatory
Next month
romote or lose your mall ,you either sign up another 10 members or stay home!
a little over 4000 who shop , not to many promoting , MPM getting slammed on different forums…..Yeah something I wanted to join.
lol
Personally I tend to look at things differently than many of you. It’s really fine! I’m not angry and I didn’t come here to fight. I just wanted to state my opinion. Ginny Dye was Visionary of the Month this past September. I tend to follow leaders with a heart. Not companies that are just looking to make a fast buck. This is not a get rich quick business. The changes that have been made are in the best interest of the members. And this company will be successful ~ mark my words.
~~~~~~~~~~~~The following is copied from a website I found online.
http://www.thevisionaryinstitute.com/VisionarySpotlight.html
What is a Visionary?
For most of the world, the concept of success is viewed from a monochromatic
perspective. In this black-and-white world there are only “winners” and “losers” or
the “haves” and the “have nots.” Ironically, despite living in the wealthiest nations
on earth, most of us walk around fearing lack…believing there just isn’t enough to
go around!
Visionaries are people who lead win-win lives and build win-win businesses. They
view success through a fundamentally different prism – one that recognizes the
many colors of success and their contribution to the creation of a beneficial whole.
Knowingly or unknowingly – these people plug into the Universal Laws that create
more success and abundance in their lives and in the lives they touch. Visionaries
have a “yes, and” rather than an “either or” mentality. They know that they can be,
have or do anything they desire WHILE ALSO contributing to the greatest good for
the greatest number
I am a member of mypowermall, in fact I think I am about #42 in the top referer list, I have been paid three times, 1 check 1 paypal and more recently on the debit card. I am not an mpm cheerleader and only do the mpm as one of my many multiple streams of income. I also have to say that I probably do not work at this game as hard as some others might, therefore I am not as passionate towards any particular earning project I am involved in. The positives of mpm are #1 the convience (spelling) of getting a portal to all kinds of online stores, this helps the basic online shopper to get dorect access through one place for a lot of shopping. 2 is the easy sell of this thing, although it used to be free it was easier. I think with these two factors and if the t-12 or whatever hold this thing together, it will be profitable for me for quite some time. The errors I see, this is just my opinion, The over exageration of the charity, I personally do not care for this, I am not an uncharitible person, I just think the effort should be put into the growth of the company right now. The multiple ways to get info, the emails, the calls, and the toolbar, and the main one I find out what the hell is going on is the forum… Condense this to email alerts only.. oh did I forget the rss feed? I took that off and will not download a toolbar. The site design is not of optimal ease as compared to the competitor bigcrumbs, which I hate to say as I am not such a big referer there (yet) will come out on top in this game. The main thing I do not like is sometimes the blind faith and trust in the upper echilon (spelling) sorry of some of the people involved, do not get me wrong, it is ok and right to defend your company or your business, but some of the cheerleading looks a lot like Team National members or many othe failed mlm companies.. I hope I do not get too much flak for this post, as I am one that believes mpm can make ME some money and bottom line that is what I try to do with these “free” programs. Good luck all mpmers and Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!! And good luck to all those that choose to earn online, whatever you do, treat it as a business and you can succeed.
P.S. I do not work as hard as others because I run over 107 different websites and blogs on the internet… Good top of the page ads for free hahaha.
yawnnnnnnnnn
here comes the spam ! so where is the power ?
Tina,
Just so the rest of us can continue following the ebb and flow of your posts,will you now be using be using “hallpowermall” to identify yourself?
Just wondering?
Michael B.
mortimas….Thanks for confirming the reason ,NOT to join! You don’t promote as much as you should, you got paid, but never said how much, And my favorite, you never tried feeding us all that shopping bologna! I like your style ! Let all the other like we have here ,do your shopping for you!
I also never saw anyone come on and admit the emails from ms spamalot get to the members too!
For any MPM people out there , I looked at signing up, but there is no way ,I’m signing up and agree to any contract like you guys are trying to use ,that says I agree to spent my money with you every month. I don’t even do that with the store I work with now! I shop , when and where I wany not where MPm says I HAVE to!
Hey Tina,
Do you know WHO named her visionary labeled her a visionary ? I have an uncle Mortie ,he see things too, but we don’t call him a visionary or make him walk on coals while eating a chicken sandwich on a mountain top in the middle of a storm!
http://www.thevisionaryinstitute.com/VisionarySpotlight.html
About The Visionary Institute
Several years ago, we met and became friends during Edwene Gaines’ Master Prosperity
Teacher training in Ft. Paine, Alabama. (Picture two Chicago girls looking for a Starbucks in
rural Alabama!) Through Edwene, we discovered how to use universal law to attract both
great wealth and joy into our lives, and, at the end of training, we walked on fire!
Remarkably, by using the power of our minds, we subjected our feet to hot coals between
1400 -1600 degrees and walked away without a mark. From this moment on, we knew we
could be, have or do anything we wanted. The possibilities were endless, and we needed
to share this message!
Once back in Chicago, our ideas were born over chicken sandwiches and coffee at the
Goose Island Pub. The Visionary Institute is the blend of our two passions – the use of
universal laws to enhance life and the importance of social responsibility – thus, the concept
of the win-win life was born.
We hope you enjoy our site. Actually, we hope that you are energized, inspired and
motivated to create your best life and uplift others along the way!
Life is short. Make it a win-win. Join us!
About the Founders
Leah Davis
Chris Theisen
Contact Us: info@thevisionaryinstitute.com
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Tina, doesn’t this little story sound familiar? Didn’t Ginny have her “Vision” in a coffee shop scibe it on the scared paper placemat ?
oh well, Btw how’s that ever so popular gift certificate program going ? Has everyone recieved theirs? Does Ginny have and more visions that are going to explode this business for the 100th time? She keeps saying that but nothings exploded yet.Especially our paydays. At this point I’d settle for a mild bang.
Listen folks ,I’ve been doing this power mall “crap’ for more months then I care to remember. It’s not happening . There are a few MPM people who are leading the charge ,but the numbers are fading fast. the enrollment figures are down, contrary to popular believe everyone I’ve spoken to don’t want to obligated to buy!
Iget responses like, If I spend $500.00 bucks in December and Joe spents $3.00 then Jan. I spent nothing ,and Joe spents $3.00 again, why will I be in violation of the contract MPM now has installed? It’s bogus, !
Ginny , if your reading this or even care, what’s happening to all those commssions that have cleared the merchants but haven’t met your $25.00 minumum to get paid. There has to thousand upon thousands now ,who have not met your minumum, but in fact show commissions. Is that money sitting somewhere drawing interest? I wonder if the reason some people haven’t gotten paid yet is the fact the money isn’t there. I too have Affiliates with CJ and none ever take this long to clear . 45-90 days ? I’ve never had that happen . Something is up . let the Tina’s of this world find out the hard way! She’s encouraging others and in the end will be just as guilty as Ginny when this explodes into little pieces and disappears into the night. Remember the name of your sponsor who want to to “SHARE THE VISION” .
Ben Franklin WAS a visionary, but I doubt
he got that vision in a diner ,or by walking on coals , or eating chicken sandwiches!
One last note, don’t put your angry label on me. I’m letting these people know that most MPM mall owner, having either given up ,or just plain saw through hype . It’s believe it’s true that out of 90,000 member only abot 4000 shopped. Be prepared for the hype that spenting went up in December. Gee I wonder why ? Let’s see what happens in Feb.
There are a handful of MPM loyalist and staggering numbers more who just don’t believe In MPM’s “Big Picture”. Sooner or later everyone catches on . Ginny….I say keep your vision.
Tina, good luck , and I hope Ginny is there to catch you when you fall. I also hope your pride doesn’t come between you and your family as MPM is concerned. It has mine a 2 other couples I know
Ginny, your not a business women. If your sincere, may I suggest the peace corp , you know , hands on!
question; If power Mall itself has only signed up less then 100,000 in total people since March.
How long will it take for one person on his own to reach even that number on their own?
I agree this isn’t a get rich scheme , but damn you’ll have to wait till 2045,till you have enough people to make those figures! Then you better rely on more then the universe to make all those people shop! Why do folks want to argue with numbers.. Numbers don’t lie!
Well we have a war going on over in My Power Mall Members Forum! And again they woke the “CEO” up
Ginny Dye:
I think it’s time for your CEO to step in. You know, many people advised me to not have a Forum because it would disintegrate into negativity caused by a few people and that too many positive people would spin their wheels and waste valuable time trying to “defend the company”. Unfortunately, I am seeing that happen. And now here I am at 4:00 AM, responding to some negative posts rather than working on the materials for the new Business Partnership Program. I’m not ready to discontinue the Forum yet, but I will admit I’m considering it. Many of you could use, and protect your energy, in much better ways than trying to change someone’s mind. I almost got sucked into this mindset a couple months ago when attempting to respond to some postings in another place on the Internet, then decided it was doing me no good at all to attempt to communicate with unreasonable people – it would never work and it would only pull me down. I decided to put my focus on making My Power Mall the best I possibly could. I encourage all of you to do the same.
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Hello,
Last one, You have really disappointed me. You let me down, I thought you were different. I was told over and over that MPM was just a scam, but I repeatedly defended you. I told people to do a google search on Ginny Dye, check the BBB I was constantly telling people you were a good person.
I was a sucker and I am angry. Everything in your presentation is a LIE. I hate lying to people and I hate that MPM can be great, There is no reason to lie, but that is all it is. I thought you were better then that, I thought you would want other ideas, but now I can see that all this is only about you, The forum is about you, and It’s your business, and the only one that will make money here is you. We are just suckers running around doing all your marketing for you and spending hours and hours defending you and MPM and you don’t care at all. You have only fooled a few suckers, all the butt kissers in your forum that pump up your ego, and that is about it. You did not help me with St. Jude because you know the same thing that they know, only you will make money at MPM and MPM is not believeable. so now you need to shut me up. But 89000 already quit.
I am telling the BBB that everything in your presentation is a lie, and I am making a website about the truth of MPM. I hate that I was lied to so bad, and I am going to do everything I can to protect people form MPM. You are never going to shut me up.
And yet another post exposing MPM…Thank you poster for saying it for the majority of us who were mislead into joining MPM.
I doubt this post will last on the MPM board.)
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Hello,
Last one, You have really disappointed me. You let me down, I thought you were different. I was told over and over that MPM was just a scam, but I repeatedly defended you. I told people to do a google search on Ginny Dye, check the BBB I was constantly telling people you were a good person.
I was a sucker and I am angry. Everything in your presentation is a LIE. I hate lying to people and I hate that MPM can be great, There is no reason to lie, but that is all it is. I thought you were better then that, I thought you would want other ideas, but now I can see that all this is only about you, The forum is about you, and It’s your business, and the only one that will make money here is you. We are just suckers running around doing all your marketing for you and spending hours and hours defending you and MPM and you don’t care at all. You have only fooled a few suckers, all the butt kissers in your forum that pump up your ego, and that is about it. You did not help me with St. Jude because you know the same thing that they know, only you will make money at MPM and MPM is not believeable. so now you need to shut me up. But 89000 already quit.
I am telling the BBB that everything in your presentation is a lie, and I am making a website about the truth of MPM. I hate that I was lied to so bad, and I am going to do everything I can to protect people form MPM. You are never going to shut me up.
Like I said before ,Quote sept 15 this forum,
“These are my personal opinions ..So Take them at face value.. I think alot of her members are being lead by the nose .”
Seems like somemore of the members are wiseing up while a few straglers keep their heads buried in the sand. I say keep your MPM and keep your pride, you all deserve what you get.I myself look forward to this posters website. This lady is nothing but hype!
And yeah I said it! She’s playin people and acting like she’s the most benevolent thing to come along! She disquists me! I’ll bet this doesn’t make the forum!
She looks for the universe for guidance and these poor suckers to help her recoup her money back!
Read these words carefully!
If MPM were all she says it is and she’s all she thinks she is , why would you even consider closing the forum Ginny.
Look at some of the newest topics. People are being credited for purchases , not being paid in a timely fashion , your “newest great gifts” to us sink like a lead balloon! There are programs which you advised people to join like MEDIA that have been utter failures to most. I haven’t heard anything about the co-ops. I suspect those are a failure as well. Why would she want to close the forum? So the members have no easy way to question her . Ginny your feet are being held to the fire , it’s time to step up ,address the problems , be honest , and stop thinking you giving the world anything! You had 90,000 people ,now your active ranks are far far less.
You’ve single-handedly cast aspersions on every MLM . You now made it so that most don’t even want to give to charities over the net!
Don’t try to tell us we’re wrong and your right. Tell us how your right! Don’t come on here with your little smiley faces. Show us paper work that people are being paid. And don’t say hundreds ! It’s be 9+ months, lets see payments to thousands ! The veneer of MPM is wearing ever thinner. If it weren’t for people like Tina, Cyber mom, juliasbusiness among only a handful of others you’d be lost! Admit it! The term wolf in sheep’s clothing comes to mind with just the mention of your name!
You can close MPM forum..but you won’t be able to shut down the hundreds of others to pop up in it’s place!
Oh yeah , why didn’t you address the question “Why would St, Jude’s Hospital ‘ refuse to get involved with MPM? Any ideas? Probably like most of the others, your not believe able!
You can fool some of the people some of the time ,but you can’t fool ALL of the people all of the time!
Ginny’s quote:
I’m not ready to discontinue the Forum yet, but I will admit I’m considering it. Many of you could use, and protect your energy, in much better ways than trying to change someone’s mind. I almost got sucked into this mindset a couple months ago when attempting to respond to some postings in another place on the Internet, then decided it was doing me no good at all to attempt to communicate with unreasonable people – it would never work and it would only pull me down. I decided to put my focus on making My Power Mall the best I possibly could. I encourage all of you to do the same.
————————————————–Ginny,
I want to see how much you spend on your mall? and the other
t12 .
How much have you received in commissions? care to answer that question? Never mind , I wouldn’t believe YOU anyway.
I give Tina all the credit in the world for fighting your battles Ginny. For you to sit back and let Her take heat for You doesn’t look so good for you does it? Kind of cowardly.
Maybe next time your up on your mountain ,instead of looking down on your loyal subjects, why don’t you walk the low lands listen to them all and see how much help you can really be.
BTW ….Another couple never got credited for their purchases, They wrote Admin 3 times in 3 months. Are they being negative? of just being ignored so hopefully they will walk away?
By the way , I’ll be writing to the BBB too.
Heck since everyones asking Ginny questions .
Ginny where is the check (not debit card ) YOU said You’d send out?
I’ve got copies of the email you sent ,would you like me to post them here, or should I just keep checking my mailbox. After all by YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you said I had $29.00 + coming.
If I don’t get it soon , I’ll see no other remedy then to forward my complaints on to the proper authorities.
Thank you every so much !
Now you’re quoting Irjet – Now THAT’S funny!
And you’ve been quoting Ginny Dye? Even funnier! At least irjet speaks his mind. Ginny tries to make everyone believe she has all her MPM members come first.
Why don’t you come up with something The truth had to swallow? Maybe there is a mountain you can climb for Guidance Tina, because for someone who like to say so much ,you seem to say so little!
Yes , I quoted Irjet, these are HIS opinions. Unlike you and the other brown noses , he’s actually constructed a thought of his own.
Will you now be like Ms Spamalot and want him silient as well? ARE you afraid someone might have adifferent opinion then ginny’s and YOU might be wrong? I can’t tell you how ridicules you looked by saying someone elses opinions are funny. How about the newest couple to post that for 3 months they’ve tried to get credit for a purchase? How about the people on here who haven’t gotten paid? How about the people who are waiting for GINNY to make another grand appearance with proof this time. Don’t you think other people are looking right now wondering why she let’s her members fight her battles?
Funny ? You have no idea what funny is! And you definitly don’t realize how SAD you come across. As we were warned earlier ,I won’t act like a little child and have Joe And Steve ask me to leave. More and more people are addressing this issue. Will you fight them all? Or will you finally talk Ginny into posting proof and let her debate what most of us MPM “basher” .
I noticed you still have to get your 2 cents in on the mpm forum. Fine ,I’m sure you ginny will reward you with bootlicker of the month one day.
Look at the forum yourself. It’s more then irjet . It alot of peoploe with missing sales, missing stores , missing pays. Admin that doesn’t respond, and the list goes on.
Ginny will close the forum down or else Owen will simple delete those “negative” comments! Who decides the negative from constuctive by the way ? you ,your fellow ginnykins!
It’s only getting more pitiful as time goes by! Enrollment is down, Why? After the holidays people should be looking for ways to pay those holiday bills!Oh wait ,in order to get paid , youhave to agree to pend and then pay those nasty little fees. oppps!
Yes , I’ll quote irjet and anyone else who has something WORTH saying!
even you if you could convince me!
you keep spending,and waiting, the rest of us find great pleasure in seeing more and more ex MPMer speaking out!
Maybe Tina will like this letter from the forum better then the one you picked out Andrea
(today post)
Post #4
Group: Members
Posts: 0
Joined: 2-September 07
Member No.: 323
I hope someone can give me some information on how to handle
this problem I am having.
My name is Paul Smith.
On September 29, 2007 I purchased from my MPM web site
a gas line trimmer from Sears. At the end of October I had
not been credited with the purchase. Total Cost: $135.99
At the end of November, still no credit for the purchase after
an examination of sales volume.
And now, here it is December 30, 2007, and still I have not
been credited with the purchase.
I have sent the information to MPM three different times at
a one month interval. As yet I have not heard from them.
My wife Barbara and I have made purchases every month since joining
mpm and have enrolled, at last count 160 members. I say that only to
indicate that we are dedicated to MPM but we are totally amazed at the
in-difference to our problem.
We mailed the information to:
MY POWER MALL
1941 Lake Whatcom Blvd, #207
Bellingham, WA 98229
Paul & Barbara
Now , one could make a case that this can happen anywhere,,but to wait 3 months for an explaination should happen NO where!
I find this particulary odd ,considering this same problem was occuring as far back as Sept.
Need proof ?
Sept.20 Ginny dye Archives
as follows , her words!
We’ve got a major challenge we are dealing with right now. We have identified a glitch in our system that is keeping sales from showing up in some of your back offices. PLEASE KNOW YOU ARE BEING CREDITED FOR THE SALE! There is just a disconnect between when we register a sale in the Master System, and it showing up in your Back Office. It really is true that less than 1% of our sales have some kind of problem with being credited – and we have a team working on those daily. The other problem – while not happening across the entire system – is definitely showing up more than 1% of the time. I realize it has caused concern and I’m writing to let you know it is being worked on right now by our development team. I have stopped any further development until this is FIXED. I just want to reassure you that we DO have your purchase in our system, and commissions are being based on the sales in OUR system. Also know that I will not stop “standing on people” until this is resolved and fixed. Our team will be working through the weekend, if need be, in order for this to be taken care of. I can only ask you to be patient while we fix it.
Remember these were Ginny’s words back in Sept. .
Who should people believe ? Is it any wonder why some people consider this a scam.? Three months and the same old tired excuses.
If my vote counts , I recommend people stay away from MPM .
It is ok to express my opinion here ain’t it?
Dedicated to MPM , yet “totally amazed by the in difference!” ouch.. Who’s to blame ? where does the buck stop on this one?
Steve L.
I think I’m a pretty good judge of funny!
And a bad judge of reality!
The rhetoric of negativity is very revealing. The more insular and hierarchical an organization, the more it relies on positive thinking to keep the masses in line. A positive attitude trumps reality and is as valued as currency. This framework makes it very simple to undermine any legitimate criticism by labeling it “negative.” To true believers, if it’s “negative” it is by nature verboten and not worthy of serious response. It’s a quick way to shut down an argument. The trouble is, it only works if both sides agree that staying positive, toeing the party line, is the rule du jour. Once one party dumps that assumption, I doubt there’s any way to have a serious debate unless the other party also changes their position.
Tina, I’ll be the judge of how good you are at judging what’s funny. Is this funny?