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Over the course of the past week, I’ve received five emails regarding ‘Project Payday.’ Two were from I’ve Tried That readers, two were spam emails, and one was from someone named Patrick who claimed to have worked for Project Payday. I’ve figured I’ve put this review off long enough and it was time to bite the bullet and just do it already.
You Don’t Have What it Takes.
After submitting my email address and my name (Franklin McNugget!), I was taken to another page that told me I don’t have what it takes to make money online like he does. First off, who is he? There is stock photo of a guy with his pockets turned out next to the paragraph. Is he my competition? If so, I make more than pocket lint per day online.
I skimmed further down the page and saw beautiful yellow backgrounded text and plenty of PayPal screen shots. Frankly, I don’t get it. The previous page said there was no investment involved and I created an account, why am I looking at another presell page? Oh, that’s because…
Complete One (1) of the Free Sponsor Offers
In order to actually access the Project Payday member section, you need to complete a sponsor offer and we all know what that means. The creators of Project Payday are getting paid a ridiculous amount of money just so you can access their program. Not to mention, you WILL need to invest money to join. This means you will have to give out credit card information and potentially ruin your credit. I’m stopping my review right now because I’m not contributing a dime to these scam artists.
I’ve researched a few online forums and found that the way to make money is to rip companies off. You essentially ‘hire’ another user to complete an offer so that you make commission on whatever action needs to be taken. From there, you pay the person you hired with a part of the affiliate commission you make. This definitely breaks the rules of almost every affiliate program and you will be kicked out of whatever program you are in without a shadow of a doubt. Yes, this means that your “earned” commissions will be taken away. I also would not be surprised to hear that companies have pressed charges against Project Payday members. You are stealing money. That is illegal.
The Only Text Worth Reading on the Entire Site
“If you aren’t thrilled with Project Payday, let us know within 60 days for a ‘no questions asked’ refund.”
If you paid to join this program in the last 60 days, I highly suggest you do what the quote says and get your money back.
Project Payday is a Scam.
Stay away from this website. Far far away. This is easily the most diabolical program we’ve reviewed so far and there is nothing but trouble in it for it’s members. To quote Dave Ramsey, “Honest hard work is the best money-making scheme. The best place to go when you’re broke is to work.”
Always remember, there is no get rich quick scheme.
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Hi,
I was introduced to the incentivized freebie websites through Projest Payday. I have profitted nearly $3000 in seven monthusing the strategies outlined in Project Payday. I have never violated any affiliate program rule and have been paid every single time I earned a prize. I have used these programs to get paid to buy insurance, subscribe to Netflix, buy books, printer ink and other items. The only thing that wiffs of a scam on Project Payday is that you have to pay for their information, which many other people would gladly give you for free. Projest Payday is clear that this not a get rich quick scheme, but you can make relatively small amounts of money by working these sites. I used to have a part time job but was able to leave that after discovering this system.
I would also like to comment on Project Payday. I stumbled across it this spring and started working the “incentivized marketing” business too. It is real, and there are a ton of people doing it. I have also made thousands of dollars trading in the freebie world.
But is not a get-rich-quick scam. It is business, and like any business, if you want to make money at it, you have to put in lots of time and hard work. You have to have a credit or debit card, and people will pay you to go to a site and complete one or two offers there. Yes, there is a lot of fraud that goes on, but it is pretty well policed and fraudsters get taken down pretty quickly. However, there are lots of trial offers I did and ultimately decided I liked. I’m subscribed to Blockbuster, I got my wife some hydrating skin lotions that she loves (I never knew something like that could mean so much), and various other things.
I pay people to complete offers at these sites. Typically, you pay 1/2 of the value of each referral. So, if I want to cash in $240 at a site and need, six referrals, I pay each of them $20-$22.
Project Payday sucks. But it has really opened the floodgates into that industry, which apparently has been both a blessing and a curse. I quit fooling with their site after two days and now work 4 forum boards where I trade with lots of folks and have made quite a few friends. So, while Project Payday does hustle you for a referral, there is something legitimate beyond the website itself. Anybody interested in freebies should search it out. True, you don’t need Project Payday.
Ok you dont have to pay andyou dont have to do the complete one of the following things.
If you want it for “FREE” you have to do the complete one of the following but if you dont want to do that you can buy it for $34.95 and you can use paypal meaning you dont have to put your credit card up on the line.
Since I started with Project payday and feverishly worked to get referrals for them I was actually paid $10. Now my account says $12 and they won’t pay me anymore. When I tried to bill them through PayPal, they cancelled it. Sounds like something stinking through the “Project”; almost reminds me of GreenZap.
I came across PPD because I was looking for make money ideas on the internet and it was getting very good reviews. I opted to pay for it rather than do an offer and it was an awesome thing. I’ve made over 300 dollars with very little work and I’m currently taking it to the next level to generate a consistent income. No, it won’t make you rich quick and it doesn’t claim to. PPD just puts together all the information you can find across the internet into one place. Should you be charged for it? Well I suppose someone has to pay their marketing and bandwidth bills. I’ve been recommending it to friends and will continue to do so. This industry is expanding and I’m going to be a part of it.
PPD gives users a bad outline of a potentially profitable venture. The video on the front page states this user does it at home and work which is against every TOS in the business. Double IP’s will get your account placed on hold in a heart beat.
PPD and FLR both are operated in an unethical manner and seem to tell users the program is easy as cake. The facts, crediting on IFW sites leaves a lot to be desired. Most users find themselves doing 100% more offers than originally told and still never get credited for 75% of them.
I wouldn’t recommend PPD or FLR as they are both proven time and time again unrealistic and unethical.
I use FLR and am making a little money. FLR is just a place for everyone who is interested in IFWs to go and meet and interact. True, you don’t always get your credit. But it’s not FLR’s fault. They don’t pay you themselves. They come from the ADVERTISERS who are providing the offer, not the sites themselves. You would still be having problems with the crediting issues whether you use them or not. Users are encouraged to only try offers they are willing to honestly try. I have bought books, movies, ringtones, etc. Some of the freebie sites are willing to give you manual credit if an advertiser doesn’t give you the credit. You do have to keep a detailed log of the offers you’ve done and when to cancel trial memberships though. If you don’t keep accurate records, you will lose more money than what you make. PPD is not a scam.
Interesting, when you take advantage of these large corporations and take them at their word for “free trial offers”, this is “unethical”. When these large corporations take advantage of us each day that is just “good business”. The fact is PPD only gives info on how to do freebie trading. I’ve completed one and have been paid. I’m sastified it is legit, although time consuming, and yes you can make money on it. So far every negative comment I’ve seen is either from people with a bias opinion and no experience, or failed because they didn’t study a bit and do their homework on how to do these trades. I looked over the material and read for a few weeks before I started. IT WORKS! Don’t forget, if these companies stopped this they would be losing millions of dollars each year because despite the large number of cancellations, the amount they make from people who don’t cancel is still tremendous. Thats the nature of business. Sometimes you lose too, and the big corporations still are raking it in.
i am interested and looking into project payday to see if could get a little extra money for myself, i’m still worried if it is going to ruin my credit or something so i’m not sure yet but still i’m looking all over the internet for answers before i start to make any trades, based on the fact that we need our credit card to complete the offers soemtimes i feel that is a little not secure, i wonder if the gift visa cards also would work, i will try with that and i will let you guys know if someone is interested, just trying to help people not waste their money, and if i loose my money or something bad happens with project payday, i certainly will post on every blog online about that so people don’t get tricked, lets be honest, you don’t know what it is until you experienced it.
John’s post on Jan 21st is very much on target
The business of doing these “trades’ is real and can be profitable. People who make the choice to do so need to be disciplined in their actions.
Corporations are well aware of what they are doing, any money they spend in advertising / advertisements is risk capitol. “Risk capitol with a profit” they are not REALLY giving you any thing for free.
They would not be in this “venue of business” if it did not turn a nice profit for them. You need to understand they created this approach with full knowledge of the pro and cons
They give the rules and parameters of what is required and either people / customers follow them or they don’t.
Cross your T’s and dot your I’s keep good records stay disciplined and you will make a tidy sum,if you choose to do so-
- Danzig
Project Payday IS REAL.sleeeeazy..it’s an ethically-challenged system, and I got paid immediately after I started…yes, most of the offers from the IFW sites do require a fee but you don’t really have to pay the fee at all. For instance - if I work out an arrangement with a guy on the forum and I sign up for an offer with a 14 day trial and the guy is paying me $25 to my PayPal instantly upon sign up, after day 10 of the 14 day trial I just cancel the trial and still keep my $25 payment! And the money just adds up. You can not call something a scam just because you refuse to get involved with it - You are correct, it’s not a scam, it’s a scheme! However we reserve the right to point out how sleazy it is to take the money, with every intention of canceling the contract.
And, you have to do it again and again, seeking new opportunities to do the same thing, ripping of more and more people, knowing you’re never going to take the product. If they didn’t offer the $10 to $25, you wouldn’t take a second look.
This forum seeks to promote legitimate business opportunities where by providing a service or product, you earn a profit. And, whether it is a one-time purchase or service, you can still find others who need, want it, and are willing to pay for it.
With your scheme, you provide no service or product, nothing of value.
I really don’t know if this is a scam or not. All I know is that I have lost money on free offers and been charged for products that I don’t want. This happened through slick email promotions by Project Payday itself. I can’t even find a support ticket area on the website to request my money back. Don’t get involved with this program.
Gail Schriber
I joined Project Payday just a week ago. I didn’t mind paying to join….I have seen alot worse. PPD comes pretty well recommended so I thought I would give it a shot. I have made $75.00 so far. I admit I have ordered more than that right now, but I don’t order anything I don’t want or need. And I don’t go overboard on that. This is not something to get rich with. It takes patience and perserverence. You can’t come to the site desperate for money. This is something you have to take slow until you get the hang of it, or you will end up spending way too much money!! I have a mentor who is helping me. They are very patient and willing to help wherever I need it. You have to be willing to read EVERYTHING that Project Payday has to read in the member area and it is alot. They leave nothing out. If you have the patience you can make a good monthly income on this site. It is not a scam, it’s just that some people expect more from it than they should. Read everything about Project Payday that you can, then it is up to you.
Did anyone try this business with the visa gift card? I am interested in trying PPD but am very concerned about using my card info. Is there a way to get paid without using my account?
If you are worried about using a credit card, use a prepaid debit card with a mastercard or visa logo. That way you can keep careful track of what you invest to receive your profits and set aside a specific amount to put into the program. They work just as well as a credit card and no charges can be placed on it that you do not authorize. This is money invested in a business and can be used to document business expenses on your taxes at the end of the year. And this method shields your credit.
I have to laugh at the statement, “this is the most “diabolical” scam you have ever seen.” You don’t have a clue!! This business works. And many of us DO NOT rip off the companies that participate!! They are making money too, hand over fist. But when we complete an offer, we are many times ordering things that we wanted or needed to begin with and don’t even plan on ripping off the company that is doing the offer!!! The companies have a set of ways to make sure that doesn’t happen. They have participated in these things long enough to know what is going on. I have made money. I have not become rich or wealthy. Most people that join PPD do not join with the thought that they are going to become wealthy. They just want to make some money to help out with the bills, supplement their income, etc. You join PPD and stick with it for a few months and do what you should….you will find out this isn’t “diabolical” at all!!
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Unfortunately there are quite a few sponsors who will not accept a pre-paid card of any kind. But I have used my debit card and my Discover card with no worries. I did order “Lifelock” security as one of my offers. That is a fantastic program to have and you really don’t have to worry once you have that program helping you. But I understand why you are hesitant to use your cc.
I thought project payday was a rebate processing certification/employment program that sets people up to do rebates for corporations. What else is it that I am not understanding ? Is there anyone out there that has joined ppd to do rebates ? Is it a scam, do you really get $ 15.00 aver.for one rebate. Please advise.
Sincerely Kathleen the scott
Kathleen, I don’t think ppd is a rebate processing company. I am not sure what it is yet but I am wanting to try it. I was led to PPD through google when I was inquiring about the rebate processor companies. I wanted to find out about these rebate processing companies and from what I understand, they are all a rip-off. Just go to google and search rebate processors and you will see. So far from what i have read, PPD is legit. You can also vivit this link … http://www.***.org/ and see the grading systems of some of these home-based businesses. Good Luck and if you find out anything about PPD, please let me know. Thanks , Diana
Diana, I removed that link. As far as I can tell it looks like a long spammy list of affiliate URLs. I also couldn’t find a single actual review. Plus, what was with the list of news/web programs? There’s no way any reputable news source would consider mentioning that URL.
Steve, i sincerely apologize about the link. I wasn’t trying to advertise anything. It didn’t even dawn on me what i was doing. I accidently stumbled upon the website and found the grading system helpful. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Still need any info on PPD if anyone can help.
Ty Diana
Diana,
Project Payday is not a rebate processing company or a data entry company. The only way to fully understand what it is is to go to the website itself. I know you are not supposed to put links in here but just go to the website and read about it. I started PPD the first part of March. There is a Method #1 that you do for awhile. I have made only about $100.00 on that method but I am about ready to go to method #2, which is the one where you make alot of money. Not enough to get rich, but anywhere from $1000 to $3000 or more per month. I am very cautious by nature and I have tried ALOT of online businesses. I did some research on PPD before I joined. So far this is the ONLY online business where I have actually been able to put money in my Paypal account. That is a good feeling. Hope this answers some of your questions.
I am seriously tired of people trying to scam me into giving them my money. The biggest problem is that I am looking for something to help pay all the bills, and there are so many things that just try to take your money.
it really stinks!!! oh by the way.. Dave Ramsey is awesome.
Brandon, I don’t blame you for being sick and tired of all the scams. I have been looking for a good way to make money online for the last 8 years and decided that is an oxymoron!! Can’t happen!!! But I do ok on PPD. I have more money in my PayPal account than I have EVER had. And it is pretty much just sitting there for now to help me pay bills, etc.
Have you ever gone on Google and typed in Telecommuting? That is true legitimate jobs from home? Some require you to have training in special areas but they are worth looking into. My daughter just applied to and got a job with Alpine Access. It doesn’t pay as much as jobs that you drive back and forth to, but she loves it. She can stay home now and work. It is a customer service job. Anyway, best of luck to you in your search. Be very careful of any jobs online. If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
PS to Brandon, who is Dave Ramsey???
I went into Project PayDay . .worked very consisitantly for 4 weeks and made about $60
My sponsers were very helpful yet I found the merchants who hosted the sites for the “free” stuff would not honor my joining the programs. . . with lots of delays in getting paid
For the lack of an other words . .it is a rip - off you shoulder all responsiblility for puting charges on your credit / debit card. Go to the PayDay site and see how many members that are there who are inactive . .WHY ??
Because it does not work . . . be kind to your self don’t join
I found pre -paid cards did not work
HI MY NAME IS YOLANDA IAM LOOKING FOR A HOMEBASE BUSINESS PLEASE IF ANY ONE KNOW OF ANY THAT IS REAL PLEASE LET LET ME.. I WILL LEAVE YOU MY EMAIL ADDRESS.. yolanda2006@hotmail.com I WILL REVIEW THE PPD PROGAM RIGHT NOW.. THANK FOR ALL THE REVIEW..
Danzig,
First of all, did you read everything there was to read on the PPD site? It took me about a week just to read everything and then I went over everything again to make sure I knew all the rules. Then did you join FLR (Free Lunch Room). That is the best forum to go to. Then I read everything on there before I got myself a mentor. If you read, you would know that the offers you do on the various IFW sites DO NOT accept pre-paid debit or credit cards.
You should NOT do any offers that you do not want. And you do have to keep an eye on the charges, that IS your responsibility. What do you mean by this?: <>
The merchants who host the gift sites do exactly that, HOST the sites. They have no other responsiblity to you or the gift sites. They will try to help when they can but it is up to you to make sure that you apply correctly to each offer that you do. If you don’t READ the instructions given to you by the people you are trading with then it is very easy to make mistakes and NOT get your offers credited.
You have to be persistent, and can’t give up after only 4 weeks!! I have been doing this now for almost six weeks. I have a little over one hundred dollars in my PayPal account. I am still on method one, but that is my decision. Many people advance much more quickly than I have. I have had my share of problems with the offer sites crediting for me, but I had to look back and think about what I might have done wrong. The offers did not credit. I didn’t like it, but I moved on. That is the only way you are going to be successful in this business. I am planning on doing my trade thread soon and moving on to method 2, where all the money is. I don’t plan on giving up. I am not going to “whimp” out on this. I will “see” you again in a couple of months send you an email with my Paypal balance.
Also, you obviously did not go to the FLR forum. There are NO inactive people on that forum. You can’t just go to PPD and then stop!! What was your login name on the FLR forum? Did you do the method # 1? M #2? G4G? There are so many ways to make money on this forum. It is not hard. You just need to be patient and have perserverance.
Hi Carol -
There seems to be a few things that need to be more clear. My problem is not so much with PPD as they can only do so much.
It was with the merchants/vendors who would not credit or recognize my confirmed orders /payments, even when I offered to and sent confirmation e-mails and copy of bank statement(s) showing that I REALLY did make a purchase(s).
Yes I did join the FLR and like you I went thru the material carefully and for me it took about a week as well.
If you read my first post carefully I never said I use pre-paid cards. I set up a account at my bank solely for THIS business venture
Again I never said I completed any offers I was not willing to do . . .simply I did the ones I decided upon - not a problem
Simply no mistakes were made . . .they would not give credit, even when proof was offered.
It was not a matter of giving up, it was clearly a matter of not wanting to “ride a dead horse” and do business with companies who choose to be less than ethical. . . when the proof is in front of them
If you feel working for six weeks and making a whopping $100 for your time is your idea of a healthy income -You Go Girl -
Those kind of numbers work well if you are living in a third world country where average incomes are about $300-$500 a year!
I hope you do contact me to show me your paypal account as well as others who read these posts. I’m waiting as you speak.
Again I never said I went to the FLR forum . .I went to the list of other traders Where it shows when they started / joined and how many trades they have completed . . .which on the most part is less than 10.
The reason why it is so low is that the money is simply not there for the money needed by most people. Try contacting those members . .the vast majority have moved on. The attrition rate is very high - due to the lack of viable pay
Fortunately patience and perseverance as well as a good business sense I have.
I fault the merchant / vendors for not being upfront and honest and honoring honest CONFIRMED orders I have no problem with PPD or FLR . . .I am willing to bet PPD is aware of it, yet choose to stay silent. . .they would be biting the hands that feeds them.
Carol I hope you DO PROVE ME WRONG . .I am more than willing to eat a BIG slice of humble pie for you and every one else
I await to see your paypal balance sheet as well as many others. Hopefully this system will notify me of any of your posts.
The upside is that your success will create a major following of people willing to train and trade with you . . .me as well
You Go Girl! I as well as others, are watching and waiting.
We wish you well ->Danzig Panzer
I found out that if you’re a member you can still make money from their referral program. I saw this video on youtube where a girl was making hundreds a week.
this is the video
http://cashkube.com/projectpaydaygirl.html
Danzig,
I understand your frustration. The PPD and FLR is not for everyone. I have made only $100, that is true. But I working on my trade thread. Once that is complete I will be able to go to method #2 and start paying for referrals. That is where I will make the money. On the “forever green” sites you can make $100 over and over and over. I have friends doing this who make $1,000 to $3,000 per month. I am not just saying this to “sell” you or anyone else on PPD. It is just the truth. I know my meazly $100.00 is not much. But I AM going to do better, I have every confidence.
Of course this business is NOT for someone who is desperate for money. You need to be able to start doing this without worrying about where your next meal is coming from. I really feel for those folks that join PPD with this kind of desperation. Wish I could help them, somehow.
There have been times when I did not get credit for an offer I did. I sent proof emails, called them, talked to the owners of the IFW. I just plain did not get the credit. I was upset, of course!! Anyone would be. But I moved on. Those are just some of the problems you have to deal with. There are problems in ANY kind of business, whether it be online or outside in the real world. How you deal with them helps in how successful or unsuccessful you become.
If you were to go on the FLR forum, you would see iTrade numbers in the 20’s, 30′, 40’s and some even higher. I am just glad I joined the FLR forum. They have so much help and people who want to help, not just make money but actually help you be successful.
Hopefully I will be able to show you some proof when I “get going”!! Take care and hope you find what you are looking for and need!!
Carol
Shawnna,
I just watched the video. I don’t know about this. I think you probably pay this person $2 just for the privilege of getting to the PPD site and paying their membership fee. What this person is saying she can teach you you can learn in the Free Lunch Room forum that you join for free once you have read all the info on the PPD site after you join it. Free Lunch Room is a forum to join and it is totally free. The FLR has Mentors in there that teach you all you need to know about doing this and they do not charge any money. Be careful about what you get into before you join PPD. Sometimes it is people like this that give real opportunites to make money a bad name. And did you notice that she had other “ways” to make money that she was promoting. Be careful!!
She is not teaching people about free lunch room, she is showing people how to make money with the affiliate program in the members area of PPD. “Affiliate Program” not “IFW”
cashkube.com/projectpaydaygirl.html
I hate these sites. Including the survey sites. It basically does the same thing. At least the ones I’ve come a crossed so far. They all want you to sign up for offers. Give out my CC number on the web? I don’t think so, even if it’s a free trial. I’m getting sick of it. Are there survey sites you can make money with without having to sign up for offers and such?
I don’t know.
Mieke, I don’t do survey sites. I tried them and they are not easy to make money on. Usually you end up being put in a “pool” to perhaps win something, if you are lucky. I stopped doing those a couple of years ago. Project Payday and the forum I belong to, FreeLunchRoom, has nothing to do with surveys. I have Lifelock security so I don’t worry about using my CC on the web.
PPD, for me, is a great way to make money. But doing method 1 is not easy. You have to be patient, persistent and NOT give up. Then when you go to method 2, that is where you make all your money. I have been a member of PPD and Free Lunch Room since March. So far I have made only $200.00. That is the money I am going to use in method 2. If a person can stick with it and give it a really good chance, then they will succeed. But they can’t go in it with the attitude of “this is a scam, this won’t work”, etc. You can’t expect to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. I want to make enough money to buy my gas, buy food, pay bills and have some extra left over. Something to take the burden off my husband so we can save some money. And if I work at it, I can make more than enough!! Alot of folks on PPD and FLR go into it with that same attitude of making some extra cash and having fun at the same time. But there are some really motivated folks that are making $2,000 to $5,000 or more per month. That is possible. So don’t put it down until you have looked into it more or gone in there and tried it yourself, please.
Kathleen,
See what frustrated people have to say about rebate processing jobsonline.
This is not to say that PPD is a rebate processing job site, of course.
You know it’s true the saying, “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”. A person has to be so careful, because the data entry and rebate processors sounds so good. I would love to be able to do something like that.
I am still doing PPD and although your have to work at it, especially in the first part, it has been worth it to me. Since I have gotten past the first part or “method 1″, I am starting to see some decent money coming into my Paypal. It isn’t going to make me wealthy at all, but it will make life a little easier.
Anyone reading this, just be careful about anything and everything online. There are some good legit offers, but there many more scams that just want to take your money.
Hey everyone.
I found PPD looking at other site that are advertising work at home opp’s to see what everyone is offering.
I too have been in and out again of more than 1/2 a dozen bus. Opp’s including a Leather Store in a shopping mall.
I too am sick and tired of people in business taking advantage of other people’ desire to make money on their own.
So I have taken the time(over 2 yrs) to research and use all of the experience and experiences that I have received over the yrs and instead of blaming and name throwing I am putting together a business that people can trust.
I am also interested in finding 1 or more online ways to earn some money from home to help be here to run my business as well. I looks to me that most of the complaints and wrongful name calling(scammer-a Type of: beguiler, cheat, cheater, deceiver, slicker, trickster.) News flash everyone, you absolutely can not be taken by someone like this if you do your homework. I mean serious homework. If you want to work for yourself then be a business owner. Even if your only making 50 a month for the first couple of months.
#1 you got your investment back, there you were not scammed.
#2 turn your negative experience into a positive one by admitting to yourself that you now know that you needed more knowledge about the company you got involved with. But you were willing to make a choice to quit doing your homework until you were absolutely positive that company was for you.
#3 If you go to the Small Business Administration online you can take FREE online courses to help become more knowledgeable on what it takes to start a business and what to expect for the 1st 2 years. They will advise you to have the running capitol for your new business venture to cover all expenditures for the first 2 years.
So if you can’t wait 2 yrs then find a company off line who hires people to work from home. You may have to start work for them inside first. But at least you will be making a paycheck immediately.
#4 THERE IS NEVER A GUARANTY OF FINANCIAL SUCCESS IN ANY BUSINESS THAT YOU START. But if you use the knowledge you have acquired each time you try a different company and quit blaming them for your ignorance(lack of knowledge) then you will eventually succeed financially.
If you want to try a get rich quick scheme try the stock market. It can make you rich in day. And make you penniless the next.
I don’t mean to be mean. But that is as honest as it gets.
PS. Paying for knowledge is as old as time. PPD and everyone else out there deserves to be compensated for the time they have put in so that you don’t have to. Just don’t buy the extras.
Mickey @ dollars and gifts
re-write: It looks to me that most of the complaints and wrongful name calling(scammer-a Type of: beguiler, cheat, cheater, deceiver, slicker, trickster.)are from people who do not understand what it takes to build a bus.
#1 You got your investment back, then you were not scammed.
#2 Turn your negative experience into a positive one by admitting to yourself that you now know that you needed more knowledge about the company you got involved with. But you were willing to make a choice to quit doing your homework until you were absolutely positive that company was for you.
And if it didn’t work out for you then you cut your losses and took a positive learning experience with you to use later.
Amen, Mickey!!!
hi everyone!
i just got started with ppd and find the information very informative and am ready to take action with my mentor.i have the ambition to do 5 surveys a day with method 1 and just wanted to know from experienced ppd members,can i really do as many offers for method 1 as i want?i know about the individuals having to contact you to “seal the deal”but am i correct when i say the offers are never limited to a day?i am on the computer more than 20 hours a week and though i strongly believe i will n not get rich with ppd,i believe it can provide a substantial income for me.i am only interested in offers that will allow me to “go green”instantly.please get back to me through my email address on yahoo.i would really love to hear from someone who is well experienced with ppd.i will start in about 4 hours from now with my mentor…good luck and god bless in all you do!
email you can reach me:
ruslynealexis2000@yahoo.com
Hi ruslyne alexis,
Best of luck to you in the PPD business. Since you have a mentor, ask them all of your questions. They have the training to do this, that is what they are there for. Again, good luck to you!!
Carol, I’ve read your posts from the past few months and wanted to get an update. You seem to me to be very optimistic and business minded. I don’t want to see a paypal account balance, but would like to know if you are still working the PPD. Thanks for your time!
Hi Barb,
Yes, I am still with PPD. I have NOT gotten rich, but I have been able to make about $200 per month, so far. I am just now getting into another phase of PPD and will be making more as time goes on. This isn’t a get rich quick scheme, that’s for sure. It takes alot of patience. You have to believe in yourself and in PPD. You can’t let others tell you what a scam it is. If I had done that I wouldn’t be making what I am now. It did take me some time, but to me it was well worth it. For someone like me who has been forced into retirement this is the perfect answer. Hope that answers your questions. Have a great day.
Carol
Carol -
Congrades for your stick to it tactics !!
We have exchanged emails in the past about PPD. You are now making $200 plus a month good for you . . amount like that can make all the diffrence in the world to a person depending there needs.
While my guess is that your $200 is a net profit as many readers may not know that people who work PPD need to “buy” product / services for a return of money, product prizes.
What is your R.O.I. ?
What you have not let the readers know is how many hours does it take for you to earn the $200 ??
My experience with PPD is that the product vendors were and are on the most part unethical almost impossible to contact. An very covert in their shipping policy and credit / cancellation process.
It would be fair to say that most people need and want a viable on line business that matches or exceeds their current rate of hourly pay.
A person who works PPD is taking ALL THE FINANCAIL RISK not the product vendors certainly not FLR or any one else !!
If a person is not making at least $25 -$30 net a hour with PPD. I would walk away fast
Not all of your trades will be credited and not all vendors will be honest and a person will have negitive money losses.
Carol, if you are running in the black. An PPD . . IS working for you then stay with it for now. Since you have been forced into retirement, perhaps your back is up against the wall.
If you find you have “hit the wall” with PPD let me know.
For every one who reads this I would not recommend PPD /FLR
- Danzig
Thanks for the invite. If I do hit a wall, so to speak, I will get in touch with you. I think it is admirable that you are trying to keep others from getting into online scams and possibly losing their money.
In the beginning of my doing PPD I did spend money, no doubt about it. To my way of thinking it was an investment. But that was something I knew up front as I had spoken to some folks I knew who were doing this. I was willing to take that chance. But you also have to realize that any money you spend, you usually get back 40% to 50% of that money when you get paid for doing a site for someone.
So far it has taken me approximately one month (June) to earn $200. But this amount will go up and the time to earn it will go down the longer I am with PPD. Today, for instance, I made $150. $50 of that goes to pay those folks that helped me get the money from the IFW. So I made $100 today. It has its risks, of course, just like any online business. I am aware of this also. To earn that money today, I spent about two hours online. That was it. I go back on the computer from time to time to make sure none of my referrals have questions or need help. I like to help in anyway I can. But today there was none of that. So, I guess I made perhaps $40-$50 per hour today. And I get to stay at home. :0)
I have been forced into retirement, but we are by no means struggling. I don’t do this because I am desperate for money and I would tell anyone that is desperate not to do this. This is NOT something you will get rich at or even be able to depend on a steady income. It just won’t happen. I am doing this for a few bucks here and there and for gas money!! And for fun!! I am also meeting alot of people. If I have another couple of days this week like I did today, then I will be in the black. I have spent alot less than you think. If you would like approximate numbers….I think I have spent, in offers, $400 over a period of four months (one month of because of illness) But at the same time, whenever I did an offer I got back at least 40 to 50% of what the IFW was paying the person I was “working” for. I started out slow, to be sure, and I haven’t done this religously. I have been ill so wasn’t able to do it at all for about 1 month.
As far as getting in touch with the vendors, no we don’t. The IFW gets in touch with the vendors (affiliates) for us. And most of the folks that own the IFW’s are good people who did exactly what we do now. I had the owner of one of the sites call me last week to make sure I was dealing with someone who was not scamming me. They investigated him and found him to be ok. He was ok and made me some money as well as money for himself!!
You can bet, though, that some huge businesses are making mega amounts of money on the little guy. But that is all over the US.
There are over 24,000 active people on PPD and FLR and some other forums. If you think they are all being scammed and don’t have a clue, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. That’s what makes America so great, don’t ya think, the freedom to think and write what you want!!
If I told you some of the reasons for my joining PPD and FLR, you would hear a long, sad sob story. It didn’t have anything to do with money. If you would like to hear my story, let me know and send me your private email so I can tell you.
Anyway, I love PPD and FLR. Call me stupid or whatever you wish. I am not greedy for money. I don’t need to be a millionaire or even make huge amounts per hour. I am very happy with what I am doing and with myself now. Are you?
PS Something else I wanted to let folks know, you DO NOT have to join Project Payday to do this business. You can get in the Free Lunch forum free. It just helps to join the Project Payday as they have ALOT of help and tutorials. Once you go through alot of their training (free) you can become a Project Payday Mentor and make even more money. I haven’t dont that yet. Maybe I will, maybe not. Haven’t decided yet.
Carol -
Good imformative email to all that are possiably interested in what you do.
As your success moves forward perhaps you can mentor others so they can enpower themselves as well.
Interesting commentary on greed . . .greed is nothing more than deisre out of balance.
Should your desire be great . . . as it should be. Greed does not exist as long as one empowers others as they move forward.
As far as your question to my happiness relative to my bussiness / earnings? Yes I am happy.
I stepped out of being a on-line employee ( thinking I was working for my self) such as working for companies like PPD.
Created my own products and enjoy the success and the preceived failures.
I am not beholden to others unfair policies.
In time make the move . . .it is a nice place to be
Danzig
Thanks, Danzig. Will keep your biz in mind. What is the name of it? What type of products do you offer? Take care and best of luck to you also!! We can never have too many friends or too much happiness or luck!! :0)
Carol
PS I like your comment about greed. Would you mind if I use it in some of my posts and in my signatures??